Timeless Talk
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Timeless Talk
🎤🎶💔Heartbreak Stories: From Pain to Purpose
"I just want to have a conversation with my mama." Those words, spoken by rapper Wavvy during his exclusive premiere of "Dear Mama" on our show, capture the raw emotional core of this unforgettable episode.
Wavvy doesn't just make music—he creates sonic therapy for himself and his listeners. After losing his mother to gun violence when she was seven months pregnant with his sister, Wavvy turned to music as salvation rather than "crashing out" into destructive behaviors.
The upcoming EP "Heartbreak Stories" promises to be Wavvy's most vulnerable work yet, exploring various forms of heartbreak beyond romantic relationships. During our conversation, he premieres two powerful tracks: "No Loyalty" featuring Charlie Trill and the soul-stirring "Dear Mama," which brought tears to eyes in the studio. These songs aren't just tracks—they're portals into his lived experience, open wounds transformed into art.
Perhaps most impactful is Wavvy’s candid discussion about men's mental health. "I was minutes, hours, seconds away from suicide," he reveals, explaining how music pulled him back from the edge. In a culture where men are often discouraged from expressing vulnerability, his willingness to speak openly about depression & suicidal thoughts creates space for others struggling in silence.
Whether you're a hip-hop fan, someone processing grief, or simply in need of authentic human connection, this conversation will resonate deeply. Wavvy's journey reminds us that our greatest pain can become our greatest purpose when channeled through creative expression.
Experience the full conversation and exclusive music previews, then follow Wavvy on all platforms @ItsWavvy to stay updated on his upcoming releases.
• Wavvy introduces his upcoming EP "Heartbreak Stories," a deeply personal project exploring grief, betrayal, & healing
• Music served as therapy for Wavvy after losing his mother to gun violence & his grandfather shortly after
• Wavvy premieres two exclusive tracks: "No Loyalty" featuring Charlie Trill & the emotional "Dear Mama"
• Conversation explores men's mental health & the importance of finding healthy outlets for emotional expression
• Wavvy shares his journey from contemplating suicide to channeling pain into positive creation
• Discussion highlights how heartbreak comes in many forms beyond romantic relationships
• The power of resilience & faith in overcoming life's most challenging moments
*Intro Beat Credit: Leo Legendary*
*Outro Beat Credit: Young Frenchy 808*
They ask how I'm doing. I ain't doing too well Cause the girl that I love, she put me through hell. She was fucking my homie while loving on me. All the red flags was there. I was blind, I couldn't see, raised by my granny. Respect for women is different. Regretting I chose you. I had a plethora of women. Reminiscing upon that night is the reason I changed my life. You, the reason I call a bitch a bitch and not my wife, with no disrespect, it's just the way I am Young, dumb and in love, made me the man that I am. You was supposed to be my girl. You was supposed to be my homie. You don't never check the nigga. He was doing what he's supposed to Look. Even though I was hurt, I forever kept that shit P. I knew Carmen was coming and I know she wasn't after me that shit hurt till this day.
Speaker 1:That broken soul ain't no stopping and I still can't trust the bitch because I'll be fucking niggas.
Speaker 3:Property now reality's saying mean, even though I got my and welcome back to the conversation that never ends. This is timeless talk.
Speaker 2:I'm your host aj, yes, to my left you got furious.
Speaker 3:And then we got I'm gonna introduce our guests in a second but, yeah, man bro, oh man, you know what, bro? I almost didn't want to stop that. We're going to use that as the intro. Obviously, clearly, as you guys just heard and saw, we definitely got to run this later.
Speaker 1:We're gonna run it back. I got you, we're gonna run it back you chose a deep ass song, bro. I thought you were gonna pick something like crazy. It's good though. I like it, I like what I heard. Yeah, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, heartbreak Stories is very, very emotional, very deep.
Speaker 3:Okay, well, let's properly introduce you, sir. Yeah, all right, man. So to my right, you know we got a guest with us today that's blessing us with his presence. You know what I'm saying? He's working on a project we're the name that he goes by. He actually recommends everybody keep it, and they keep it wavy.
Speaker 2:You got wavy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, what's up, man, what's up, what's up? Appreciate y'all, how y'all doing. Thank you for being here, bro. Of course man Appreciate you having me. Oh, it's a pleasure to have you on here bro, it's a pleasure having you on here, bro. Yeah, we're going to jump into a little bit about you, bro, before we get into the.
Speaker 2:You know, obviously you make music, we made that clear as fuck, obviously Right off the gate.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah for sure, Right off the gate, right For sure.
Speaker 3:So before we get into your project and your music and all that, man, I want to go ahead and tell the audience a little bit about yourself, man. Let them know what you know. Wavy man.
Speaker 1:You know it's B-Wavy. For the ones who know the B stand for Big Wavy. You know it's just man, it's just your favorite. Mr Pop my Shit man. Mr, talk your Shit. I'm here. It's time, man, we on a timeless talk and I'm finna talk all day.
Speaker 3:All right, man Cool. So you've been doing music for how long?
Speaker 1:now, seriously, I've been doing music for like four years, like seriously, like really locking in, putting out projects like shooting videos, things of that nature, for like four years now.
Speaker 3:You got some shit in the barrel then huh, yeah, hell yeah, we're ready to go. We locked and loaded, huh.
Speaker 1:Man, I probably got like songs that's not out, like just unreleased. Never heard, bro. I probably got over like 100 songs.
Speaker 2:That's just not out yet, and that's nothing bro.
Speaker 3:So what have you put out then, besides what's coming up?
Speaker 1:right now I put out a lot of shit. Man, like you can see my growth throughout the music. You know what I'm saying. My first project that I ever put out was called the Testament. You know what I'm saying and you could tell the growth Like the studio. The songs was great, but it wasn't really those were boot camp years bro. Yeah, man, you know what I'm saying yeah man and you know, I paid for that session, bro, and he fucked everything up.
Speaker 4:Those shit's not cheap.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just cause you pay any any unsigned artist man. If you paying for studio time, that don't mean you gonna get the greatest like engineer the greatest. You just not gonna get it, bro. Like, and I paid a lot of money, bro, I booked a 12-hour session, hey.
Speaker 4:Wavy, hey, but hey, from artist to artist though, man isn't it better having a home studio? Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:Hell, motherfucking yeah man. I locked in. That was the best money I ever spent, bro. Best money I ever spent.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. So you caught that right. Hell yeah, Artist to artist. I heard that I'm going to have to do what he do.
Speaker 2:He's coming in a little slow, bro. I heard that.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask him about that, but I didn't want to put it right on there.
Speaker 3:Okay, look so a few episodes back, man, that's why I? Never said anything. I found out off the record that our boy here raps too, believe it or not. But since he already put it out there. Right now. I was't know if you caught it or not, but he spoke on it very briefly, so now that he kind of squeezed it in there.
Speaker 2:I'm like all right bro, yeah, yeah you in there.
Speaker 3:You might just have to put him on the spot later too, yeah man yeah, you off that Kavassi man, I don't think I'll see you over there sipping that
Speaker 1:motherfucker man. Yeah man, come on, there we go.
Speaker 3:Nah, man, all right for sure. So, as we're going along here, man, my question for you, bro, is what inspires you, right? What keeps you going? What got you into hip hop in the first place? Man, we're going to take the clock back a little bit. Yeah, man, I started.
Speaker 1:I fell in love with music. I was like five years old. You know, for the people who to hear that you know what I'm saying. So that's what the tattoo on the neck is for. My mom's spirit animal was a white tiger you dig what I'm saying With the blue eyes. So she used to have it over the house, shit like that. So my mom passed. That was a representation of her, and my mom died. She was seven months pregnant with my little sister to help me heal.
Speaker 1:It kind of kept me kind of, I guess you could say, out of the streets. You know what I'm saying. I guess the cliche way you know pretty much like from not crashing out you know what I'm saying it taught me a lot, you know, because I lost my mom and a couple years after that I lost my grandfather, the only father figure I ever had. I never knew my dad. You, I live with my mom to this day. You know what I'm saying. My mom never got to see my age. So I'm just blessed, bro. You know music just helps me cope. It kind of like. You know, I'm a brother from around the way. You know what I'm saying. So we don't go, I'm not going to see no fucking psychiatrist and shit. I don't believe in that shit, like you know you're going to deal this is real life.
Speaker 1:I just feel like it just helped me, bro. It helped me stay motivated, it keep me going, it keep me happy, like being at the house, just put my headphones in, been in my studio, just kept me like out of a lot of shit, a lot of trouble for sure. Kept me out of handcuffs for sure, for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's good man. I'm glad so it's a positive outsource for sure. Hell yeah, is there anything you want to ask him to this?
Speaker 1:point. Are you good?
Speaker 3:now.
Speaker 2:Okay cool.
Speaker 3:That's great, yeah, man, so all right. So how many have you put out EPs? Projects Like what have you put out? Before I put out all mixtapes, I put out a couple EPs.
Speaker 1:But everything you're really going to see is just mostly mixtapes, mixtapes. Okay, nothing is albums.
Speaker 3:You, the hey, the opportunity comes, bro, then you gonna get the album. Yeah, then you get the album, man, but they all it's all mixtapes, man.
Speaker 1:But you know what? It's a lot of growth and it's a lot of party music. It's a lot of turnt up shit. You know what I'm saying? You gonna see, you know like. You gonna see the growth. If you really go back and really listen, you can see the like you know out here in our area. You feel what I'm saying like we, we global with it, so spotify yeah, hell yeah, I'm on everything bro anything you stream off of. I'm even on deezer gang like oh yeah, we're on deezer too.
Speaker 4:Oh exactly, you see what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying so, you feel me anything?
Speaker 1:you stream music off of bro, you just type in b, wavy man with two v's, and you're gonna find it that's for sure.
Speaker 4:Uh question uh do you have any like uh, any like self-produced uh song or anything like that? Um self-produced?
Speaker 1:as far as like what the beat like you're making yeah nah, I don't make beats. Um, I have. I have a producer. So my producer is little tg on the beat. Shout out to him. Shout out to papa got beats. Papa, he signed to empire. I don't know if you ever heard of papa got beats. He, uh, he made the song with uh mando, with mozzie and uh stupid young y'all read that song, yeah catch case.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, catch Case Don't. Slip, that's Mando the Asian dude oh yeah, yeah, he made that beat man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that shit went like platinum or gold or some shit like that. So they're my main two producers that I really use. I'm outside of my. A lot of my pain music come from MK. Beats Shout out to him. I never he make kind of his lane and all of his beats is free, for profit too. He posts them on YouTube, so a lot of artists like you know you can go tap in with him and do what you got to do.
Speaker 2:That's where it's moving You're smooth, Okay, cool man.
Speaker 1:I think I know what you're talking about. I've heard it before. Yeah, in a minute though. Yeah, yeah, mando is bro. They dope as hell man. They really work on their craft. They got a lot of big artists, like Roddy, ricch, bro. The list goes on and on. They work with a lot of major artists, so it's not just unsigned artists or unknown artists.
Speaker 3:They work with a lot of big artists and I'm glad you said that you brought it up, because look, you know people like that fell off. Yeah, for sure it's kind of hard because it's like you know you could say that, but at the same time it's kind of like well, maybe you can't say that because not everybody's like a J Cole or a Kendrick. Lamar, where they could disappear for seven, eight years.
Speaker 2:Come back and everybody's there to love them with open arms 100%.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. So you're, how do you decide? Or how do you decipher that? How do you become an artist that could be timeless, like that, or one that's like hey man, I need to take advantage of this shit right now, while I'm hot, and then how do you think you can choose?
Speaker 1:You not choose that lane or does that lane choose you? I think for the most part I think you're right, bro. I think, to be honest, in some aspects it does kind of choose you. You know what I'm saying. That's why I don't want to be in one lane. I feel like a lot of people who they consider in quotation marks falls off, they kind of just stay in one lane and when that lane or that genre of music die out, they die out.
Speaker 2:You feel what I'm saying Because they don't really do nothing else but this type of music.
Speaker 1:But when people say Rodney Rich fell off, man, you got to be retarded man, he didn't fall off, it's just he's not like people look at the fake.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they do, they do.
Speaker 2:I see it's all over Instagram, he fell off man.
Speaker 1:He ain't falling man, that's a multi-millionaire. He didn't want bro gold plaque bro he's far from falling off.
Speaker 4:I promise you that, but not only that. I mean People got to understand. When artists aren't dropping consistently, they're in a growth process too.
Speaker 3:They're making some shit.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:They don't want to just put some Happy Meal McDonald's shit on there. They're trying to improve, Absolutely you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:They're trying to improve their skills. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, and when you at that level, you have to, bro.
Speaker 1:You got to bring it mainstream, man. Come on. Man like we, you know I'm saying so he gotta put out quality. It's just if he would just drop all his music. He got fucking 100 albums out you know, I'm saying like but he gotta bring the song that's gonna catch like the box. When he dropped the box, bro, that shit took over the internet.
Speaker 4:Like you know, I'm saying yeah, you know what sucks though about that. I think, and like, like, like he, like you know many other artists they'll have like that one single that overshadows their whole career where it's like, yeah, where it's like now everyone's just looking for you to top that. That's a fact, you know I'm saying so like you might have bangers after bang or whatever, but it's just not.
Speaker 2:It's hidden, but not it ain't like that, yeah because, because the box was actually went viral diamond platinum man that should beat out justin bieber's album when he dropped his album that should beat his album. Yeah, hell, yeah, that's justin. That's Justin Bieber, bro. That's crazy, yeah, bro.
Speaker 1:So that's to tell you, bro, it's just the music you got to like. That's why, as an artist, when you drop a song and promo, it helps a lot. Bro, that's something I like struggle with as on. I was just putting music out. That's what I mean. Like four years, seriously to the right people, having people push your, you know, if it's just a share bro, that shit free gang, it don't cost nothing to hit a button and hit share, bro. That's literally free. It takes two seconds of your time, that's all it is man.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It helps dramatically Hell yeah, it helps the artist dramatically because just never know, you never know, bro, and that can happen, bro, hell yeah. Hell, I'm a firm believer. Timeless talk, man. Come on man. What are we doing? I appreciate that bro.
Speaker 3:You already know, man. Hell yeah, what's up. We're going to have a good one for you all today, man.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah bro.
Speaker 3:We're just getting started too. You know what I so I want to jump right into the music, since we kind of started with music, absolutely. But all right, let's do that first, then Fuck it. We'll save the extra shit for afterward. So the project man, what's it called? When's it coming out? Is there anything they can listen to right now to get ready? For that in the meantime, absolutely, of course, man. The project is called.
Speaker 1:Heartbreak Stories, the EP. Literally it's in the title, it's called Heartbreak Stories. Man, it's just literally me talking about my life. You know, I feel like I did a lot of the street shit already. I done did a lot of the up-tempo Everybody can you know what I'm saying do what they do. Now I think it's time to just get real. You know what I'm saying, my heartbreak on this. You know my first heartbreak, that I ever that really broke me, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm talking about the passing of my mom. You know I talk about betrayal. You know I talk about everything on this project. So Heartbreak Stories EP is coming real soon, man.
Speaker 4:I ain't got to like it's not finished, okay, so okay, can you share how many tracks is on it? Yeah?
Speaker 1:yeah, it's going to be at least seven.
Speaker 4:At least seven. Okay, so it's an EP. Okay, yeah, it's an EP.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it's going to be at least seven. What contest is the album.
Speaker 4:Ten or more yeah that's.
Speaker 1:LP right yeah so you know it's gonna be good man, my cameraman. He want me to drop 5 and take the 2 off and just put 5 out and then the other 2. He really wanna like go heavy cause I got a song called Dear Mom.
Speaker 3:I like the 7, though I like that number bro.
Speaker 4:Yeah, 7 is the lucky number. Are those 2 like? Are they like banger, like singles in their own right?
Speaker 1:yeah, mama is going to touch a lot, I think, if you ever lost anybody, bro.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. Title track yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm literally talking to my mama in the song. That's crazy man. My cameraman cried man, when he first heard it. No bullshit. Not even trying to gas it when I played him the song, spilled your guts on it, man. Yeah, he said he was like damn bro, he was really crying People don't talk like that man. We don't talk about our problems, we just hold it in and we go hit the gym.
Speaker 2:We don't expect you to do that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you know what I'm saying so when you really get vulnerable bro, you be crazy. This shit come up with, but it's how you say it too. You know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying Absolutely.
Speaker 4:Especially if you're coming at it from a place of understanding but also still like it. It's how you articulate that shit. You know what I'm saying For sure, because there's people that try it and they do it in a way that it's like it just doesn't resonate. Yeah for sure, Just hearing like the first eight bars of that, I'm like bro, I already know this shit's going to get heavier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's going to get deep man.
Speaker 3:I thought what you dope. Yeah, wavy Heartbreak's intro. I like it because you're showing the listeners and the viewers out there what they're in for man. For sure we're going to get deep, but also let you know. Yeah, you really got to get in tune If you're one of the people who you run from your problems and you're talking to the interview, the person that you're kind of like, you're going to, hey, man For sure, he's like a mirror.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm trying to heal that little boy. You know what I'm saying Within you, within me. You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:But I'm speaking to other people. You feel what I'm saying and I like it because you're kind of sending a around the right people, obviously let them know it's okay to invest in that right or express that.
Speaker 2:Of course Like go ahead and.
Speaker 3:Let it out, bro. It's therapeutic.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let it go Fuck to save the money. Let it out to the right person, man.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you Find yourself a confidant bro that you can trust, you know and why not, man?
Speaker 1:Yeah, putting it on the record, very therapeutic. I'm sure you feel good. I'm sure you walk out that booth feeling like hell. Man, look, I'll be in the booth like man, look dog. Yeah man you know I feel like Mike Tyson when I come out.
Speaker 3:Fuck, you want me to get this shit off our chest? Yeah, we gonna get it out, because you know it's either that or go do some dumb shit.
Speaker 1:I was about to say that we're going to post that on Instagram today. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that. Yeah, curiously, we're going to hashtag that man.
Speaker 3:Look, honestly, I love that you guys just said that because it's so true, bro Lano is a positive outlook for excuse me outlet. It's a positive outlet for a therapeutic way to handle it. Absolutely want us to express our feelings. For sure, this is a healthier way to do it without you said like doing some dumb shit, that's what leads to it? When you can't express it, bro, the proper, healthy way you're gonna fuck some shit up you're gonna fuck somebody, rob somebody, whatever the fuck it is, you're gonna crash out.
Speaker 3:You're gonna crash out the definition of crashing out so I'm just, I'm just going off what you said, I'm reiterating what you just said. That's the fact, bro.
Speaker 4:That's what it is, yeah though you know I'm saying, the beauty of music is like is like writing a ep album, however, whatever length, right, you're writing, you know you're putting your thoughts to, to the, to the paper, right, and you're bringing it to the, to the audible, right? Yeah, um, it's almost like writing a book, you know, I'm saying, and it's like it's just just a different. Uh, it's a different realm, it's a different um, what's it called? Uh, conduit? Yeah, I want to like receive, know what I'm saying. Like, some people get it from books, some people get it from freaking seminars.
Speaker 4:Yeah, for sure church, whatever, but this is this is gonna your work, is gonna connect with some individuals that are going through something you know, what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying touch your higher conscience, like that but only yours is gonna be. It's gonna be the one that's gonna be like yo what the why did I do this shit earlier? Yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying For sure.
Speaker 4:So it's sometimes, bro, like you're in where you're at, You're where you're supposed to be man.
Speaker 1:For sure you know what.
Speaker 4:I'm saying so keep doing what you're doing, appreciate you man, I agree.
Speaker 1:Thank y'all. Appreciate y'all, man For sure, bro.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, man, we're going if they can't fuck with it bro. I mean, cole said it best bro. He's like. He's like something about the hate. I'm gonna butcher this man. Sorry J Cole. I'm sorry J Cole fans but, he says something along and it's way back in the first album. He's like the hate in your soul can't keep you from vibing with it.
Speaker 2:Nah, for sure you remember that shit?
Speaker 1:that's a fact you're gonna bump your head to some real your soul from bottom. That's real man. You can't fake this real shit. You can't, you can't, bro. You can't run from everything that was offside last story. I don't know if you remember, I'm a big J Cole fan man, I've been a while since I heard that shit yeah. I fought with J Cole I mean I think you know he ran from that Kendrick situation gracefully.
Speaker 4:Gracefully, you know, and let Drake, take you know what I'm saying take a drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, take that, man, you gotta. You ain't going to win tomorrow, gang. No, no, you ain't going to win tomorrow. I will say this now.
Speaker 2:I know.
Speaker 3:I'm going to get eaten alive for what I'm about to say right now, but I'm going to say it anyway bro, whether y'all are going to show me compassion or they're not going to show it to me here we
Speaker 3:go, let me brace myself. We're not going to do that Let me brace myself. I'm not going to spend too much time on this, but I'm going to say this, bro I do feel like if Cole would have just stayed in it, I think he would have put up a better fight for Kendrick for sure than Drake did.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say that hot take, oh hell yeah, I think Cole would have put up a way better fight and would have made it way more fucking interesting had he stayed involved. But I think that he saw long-term. It wasn't worth it, because he's going to lose a bro over it and he said it in Port Antonio, not condoning his actions, but I get it. He's like at the end of the day, bro, yeah, I would have put on a show for y'all, but at the end of the, I think cole would have would have put his dukes up a lot better than dreg did I think so, but the thing is too, you know.
Speaker 4:Let's just say that that cole did, like you know, stay in there right, and he starts, like you know, throwing like haymakers and shit right, yeah like what's, what's, what's gonna be dug up on him?
Speaker 1:everyone got, everybody got.
Speaker 2:You're right, and maybe and maybe, kevin knows some shit that he told him some shit or he can find out some shit, you're right, oh, like fuck that yeah, fuck that.
Speaker 3:Don't come over here fucking with me gang. Yeah, he's like I got my kids, my wife. Fuck all that shit, I'm good. Yeah, that's hey, hey that's some shit.
Speaker 1:Nobody thought about that, I'm just one of yeah, that's true.
Speaker 4:He's all over me. Nobody thought about that. I've never heard no thing.
Speaker 1:He knows about Europe. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I'm about to say it.
Speaker 1:Nobody has ever said what you just said, the angle. I'm going to just be completely honest. He might got some shit. He like I'm cool, yep some shit about Drake, like not holding back at all.
Speaker 4:Yeah, bro. That was yeah and maybe that's why I like that a lot no that's a good angle. That's a real argument. That's a real argument bro I like that. It's a good angle because if
Speaker 3:y'all remember man and I know this was briefly out there in the news I festival in. North Carolina yeah, and he told my homeboy backstage like hey, man, like you know, you all got history. You guys are boys. You might want to stay out of this shit, man. I'm just saying it's not worth it. And look what happened later later on that night, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that that's the. Yeah, it ain't fuck that, bro. He probably got some shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's like bro kendrick don't want to do it, bro.
Speaker 4:You don't want, you don't want that with kendrick. That's the fact. That's the fact. Here's one thing. Here's one thing I'll add okay, and I've told you this plenty of times you have one thing I don't do you don't get in between a beef, between your homie and someone else and and and their former homie.
Speaker 3:He's told me this off the record or your homie and their homie, or yours and his whatever.
Speaker 4:You don't get in between that, because you don't know how that shit's going to end out.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, especially, yeah, you don't know, because what happened to you personally, I remember this story. You know what I'm saying, and then it's like no-transcript. Back on to the topic. Um, you, you, uh, you. I'm not gonna put your business out there, wavy, I'm gonna let you say what you want to say from the heart.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying but I will say, man, you being a victim of that shit, that must have been, that must have hurt, bro, we well, I think I think it's safe to say everybody here's been on this table's been cheated on us at some point, right, yeah, in some way yeah right, he said in some way.
Speaker 4:I mean, I know I have a heartbreak like that, bro, where I got bro, facts, that's a fact.
Speaker 3:I remember my first real girlfriend bro cheated on me with I'm gonna share this with everybody, I don't care man, yeah. Um, my first real girlfriend cheated on me with my boy, who was?
Speaker 1:I thought he was my boy, yeah it's the same space you could talk to us it is the same place.
Speaker 4:You're right, yeah, same place. What do they say?
Speaker 3:we listen yeah, we don't judge yeah absolutely we stand on that principle.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, we do. Everybody been through it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, facts, bro. So so my point bringing that up man is, like you know, I thought he's my boy living the same neighborhood. You get the gist of it. They ended up. I figured I found that out right. Damn dog, that shit feels like a dagger man I'm sure you went through it too.
Speaker 2:Obviously you said I heard the intro, yeah you went through that too, man.
Speaker 3:So is there anything you want to elaborate?
Speaker 1:on that. Yeah, man, I mean, you know we could talk about it. Man, I'm grown you know I'm saying we ain't gonna put her name in there, but she's very much.
Speaker 2:Know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying yeah, so you know pretty much how it went, was you know I was in love. I was young? Um, I was in high school around the time. You know I'm saying so long story short. You know the homie ended up. He ended up fucking the girl that I was in love with. We was together, um, you know I'm saying we was in a relationship, like not no, I know when people hear the song they'll be like well, where you guys even together.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying. You know how girls is.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying but at the end of the day we was, we was committed. You know what I'm saying. And he wasn't really. I wouldn't necessarily go as far as saying he's like my doll, that it's my eighth day one, but it's like I knew you and we hung out a couple times.
Speaker 2:We were cool enough. Yeah, we was cool enough for you to know you didn't have to be foul. Yeah, don't disrespect me like that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, I don't, you know, I just chunked it up, you know, and I was young and I was dumb and I was very rebellious and I'm, mr, i'ma get my leg back. You know what I'm saying. So you know, what I did after that was, you know, was very uncalled for because I ended up messing with her sister.
Speaker 3:So you know what I'm saying so at the end of the song, you know we can play the song, man so you know, now that I'm grown, he's like you
Speaker 1:think you got me congratulations, I got your sister.
Speaker 2:You played yourself yeah, you know what I'm saying you think you got me bitch?
Speaker 3:nah, I got you.
Speaker 1:For sure y'all gonna hear it in the song, man, I talk about it, I put everything out. You know I put how it started. You know I put how it ended. You know, and yeah, it was definitely. I don't think she knew about the ending of having her sister stop talking, but I mean, you know it's going to be out there. You know what I'm saying, so you know, shout out to you though, man, I hope y'all doing well, I hope y'all doing blessed. You know what I'm saying. More power to you, stay positive, kill them with kindness, absolutely.
Speaker 4:You feel me. You feel me, Fuck y bossed up man.
Speaker 1:All positivity bro All positivity to y'all. I hope you're doing well. I think the last time I seen you was a couple years ago. I had like two kids, so I hope everything's going well. Oh, you passed.
Speaker 4:Oh, you passed. I'm happy for you, man. Thank you, brother. You shining now, brother, I appreciate that man.
Speaker 1:What do I get for?
Speaker 3:you yeah, yeah, Give me right man Give me right. Yeah, I appreciate y'all. Man, no for sure you dodged the bullet. My boy no for sure I think so Because the other man two kids, now Good luck bro, yeah man you know,
Speaker 1:word to the grapevine, but you know, I dodged it, man. But I was broken though, bro. I was a very, Of course. Yeah, you know, she really At the time man Because, I really tried that was my first time ever like really falling in love and like expressing how much I love the person you know what I'm saying and to go and fuck a nigga that I know and you just like, oh, you know, like pretty much.
Speaker 4:You know. I just opened my legs. Yeah, yeah, like shut the fuck up.
Speaker 1:You feel what I'm saying Because I already know what he was on. You know what I'm saying and then you feel me Late night All of a sudden. You know Then how I found out. I found out through her sister. That was the plot twist. She thought this whole time. So I felt like.
Speaker 2:I felt like put something out there.
Speaker 1:First time on Timeless. He you know what I'm saying. To this day, me and him never talked about it. He don't even know. He probably don't even know, are y'all?
Speaker 4:still homies.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, we don't talk like that. We wasn't really homies at that point. We was just, like you know, we sharing memories we got.
Speaker 3:We got real respect. It wasn't nothing like that. Like we said a little earlier, yeah, the fact that you knew you exactly still was disrespectful, unspoken respect, exactly. It's like that guy. Yeah, you don't got to.
Speaker 1:You ain't got to. And he knew. He knew we was together like he. You know he seen us together. He seemed we. I went to a party with her like he popped up with a girl One day. We went, they were on a double date almost. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:We just happened to be at the same place and she was like y'all still with us?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I really trusted you too.
Speaker 1:Exactly, bro, exactly.
Speaker 4:And I was young, bro, I was like 17, 16.
Speaker 3:But, like you said, he didn't rape her. Yeah, he didn't do nothing. She didn't want him to do. She opened her legs to him.
Speaker 4:Absolutely, absolutely, and then tried to fake that I was drunk shit. And I think that's what. Okay, just to divert a little bit. That's what goes over a lot of dudes' heads when they get mad about it. Of course I know that they're mad at the woman, right.
Speaker 3:But they get more mad at the wrong person, you mad at the wrong you gotta keep that
Speaker 1:shit P yeah you gotta keep it P bro, you can't you don't never go check the man, bro, you always check the woman. He not doing nothing you wanna done cause we didn't do it. Opportunities, yeah, opportunities, man, come on man opportunities for sure she was cool, bro, we young bro, we little pit bull With that pink thing Hanging out man.
Speaker 2:She was riding tight, throwing that ass man I'm finna, fuck her.
Speaker 1:She tell him all. It comes back to him. Come on bro.
Speaker 2:Any man what's going down?
Speaker 1:So I can't get mad at you For doing it. Come on, bro, you gotta respect the game man, you know. Just move on. That's all it was.
Speaker 3:But if you're not Exactly, obviously it sucks when you're ultimate choice here, that's the only choice you got. Absolutely is to just move on, bro. Yeah, you gotta get on. You gotta get on in my defense.
Speaker 1:I did it. I did some petty shit that I shouldn't have. Now that I'm grown and I'm mature, you know I should've took that route, but you know at that point in time it felt like it was good you blew her sister's back out.
Speaker 4:You were back out for sure. All right, you know why. Think about this. Yeah, yeah, think about this man. Do they regret cheating? Hell no Come on, because, think about it, man, yeah, they chose that fool. Yeah, yeah, I want you.
Speaker 1:You better talk boy, you better talk that time, boy, They'll give him dirty talk and all that shit. Come on man. Come on man. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Pulling a hair shot. That's how it goes down.
Speaker 4:Nah it do Once. You sleep with a woman, bro, and you have your way with her, bro, you already know bro.
Speaker 3:You just dropping shells on him, bro. That's how you do it, bro.
Speaker 2:Y'all stupid bro For real. That was that explore. Stupid bro For real.
Speaker 1:That was that explore age, bro, when we was just trying shit. I never done it. She's like let's try it, Fuck it. So I know if you're doing that with me. I can only imagine what she was over there doing and I found out about one time Y'all could have been fucking. You know who knows.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying your sister, only you know, but we know what she did, though she did that to do what she do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:She always wanted to do that shit man.
Speaker 4:She always wanted to do that shit Of course I'm glad that you got out of that situation and you're free and clear and you got no residual bullshit.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 3:We're going to give you a hand clap for that, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's hit the bullshit. Let's hit the bullshit, let's hit the bullshit.
Speaker 1:We out of that bullshit man for sure.
Speaker 3:Let's hit short. Hell yeah, man, shit man, all right, so I'm glad you were sharing that with us. Man, like I said, I had to cover it just because that was part of the intro. Yeah, man, do you have any lighthearted moments in it where it's just like you just talking your shit being a rapper, you know what I'm saying Flexing your muscles? Absolutely, I got some shit called betrayal.
Speaker 2:You know it's pretty much what I'm talking about. That already sounds furious, bro. It is bro.
Speaker 1:It already sounds intense, bro. It's real like it sounds. What Furious. Yeah, you feel me, but I'm saying because I had a lot of situations where, you know, like I say it's not always girls. You know I put my trust in the wrong homies. You dig what I'm saying so you know, I had a lot of people I called brother, you know, to stab me in my back.
Speaker 3:I think that that hurts worse when it's someone that you were actually cool with shook hands with you dabbed it up.
Speaker 1:It's like, man, you're a piece of shit bro, and then?
Speaker 2:you're a piece of shit, you're also a piece of shit.
Speaker 4:Yeah, you're also.
Speaker 2:Both of y'all are a piece of shit, and you too, bitch, you're a piece of shit too.
Speaker 3:You knew that was my boy. You didn't give a fuck. Yeah, that's the fact. You didn't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:So, the nut matted mortise to you. That's, Bro. They don't just do surface cut, they're like nah, you know what I'm going to get with your boy? That shit hurt. I'm going to get with your boy. I'm going to get with your brother. I'm going to get with your pops. You know what I'm saying? I'm going to get with someone that's close to you.
Speaker 4:It's like what the fuck? I mean not all the time.
Speaker 2:I'm going to talk about everybody.
Speaker 1:Hey man no comments finna, get on your ass, man.
Speaker 4:In some cases they are ruthless, bro, and it's like damn you had to do that. There's everybody else in the world, and you chose people who are close to me.
Speaker 1:To do some fuck shit, to do some bullshit.
Speaker 2:Take a shot, man, let's do it. Take a shot y'all. Cheers man.
Speaker 1:After clap, let's do it Shot y'all yeah man.
Speaker 4:Cheers man, clap After clap, that dude saying no joke. What I'm saying is like it also exposes those close to you, though, and it's like, okay, you weak, you weak, you weak. Because, bro, honestly, it's a simple no, you know what I'm saying, simple no, don't get me wrong, man. As a man, you got a pair of cheeks in front of you, bro, with a nice little you know, a nice little presentation up front.
Speaker 1:You're like damn, I want to smack you know you want to smack bro, You're going to smack. If it's your boy you're like okay, I still want to smack because all pussy ain't good pussy. Man, yeah, yeah, all pussy ain't good pussy.
Speaker 4:Especially your boy's pussy, exactly.
Speaker 1:Exactly, especially your boy's pussy. Man, you don't mess with that. Leave him with his.
Speaker 4:Hey, people just got to stay in your lane.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to Stay in your lane. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Okay, if your boy's girl is hitting boys, girls hitting on you, tell her no and tell her to fix her problem with her. Man Wait wait, wait.
Speaker 3:Okay, so Jadon Sal ain't talking right now. Huh, I'm furious. Jadon is fucked, though Talk your shit dog Talk your shit man. Let the people know the truth man, we're going to let people know man Jadon Sal is going to make an appearance bro at some point in the show man.
Speaker 1:You already hear it low key. He live in the face. You already hear it live in the face. Yeah, that Kavassi got him going.
Speaker 4:Yeah, yeah, he over there, he's ready to go. Hey, what'd he say?
Speaker 1:Pass the. What Pass the Kavassi? Yeah, yeah, Come on man.
Speaker 2:Come on fully in this JN effect, bro.
Speaker 4:We here, bro hey man hey dude, hey hey.
Speaker 1:You know what.
Speaker 2:What's about this yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, no, going back bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure, we all won today Hell yeah, we fired up today. Shit man, I can't even get the next question out, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm going to fucking. What's the next question?
Speaker 2:man, let's get to it man, let's get to it yeah timeline is burning, motherfucker. Oh shit, alright man come on man too much fun yeah, that's a great thing.
Speaker 3:Man ain't no such thing as too much fun man, absolutely man.
Speaker 1:I'm loving it, man, but it's a conversation that never ends. Gosh damn it, it don't end it don't end it, don't end man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, nah, nah, but all right, bro. So you got seven tracks, right, would you say overall, like the project is exactly how you wanted it to come out. You said it's not done yet, but is that because you're still mastering it? Yeah, are you happy? Are you done with everything that you put on paper? As far as the raps?
Speaker 1:and all that. As far as on paper, yeah, I'm loving the way it's coming, because it starts off with the heartbreak and then it goes straight into Dear Mama. So I feel like I'm hitting you hard fast. So it's going because we're in 2025. People don't have a high attention span at all.
Speaker 1:You dig what I'm saying. So people not going, they're not going to listen to no three minute song of me expressing how I really feel. So each song is like a minute and some change. You know. Like a minute and 50 seconds. Dear Mama is a little longer because you know I'm talking a little more, but everything is you know it's pretty much real length. You know what I'm saying. So you could post this shit on instagram. You dig what I'm saying. So everything has a real meaning to it and it's really deep. Man, and I think so far that I put on, I feel like it's a lot of vulnerable spots that I feel like I didn't even really thought I touched, that I didn't touch, that I put on there. You know what I'm saying. Like when you hear, when you hear betrayal, you know you hear songs like dear mama. You hear songs called no Loyalty. You know what I'm saying. Like you're going to understand where I'm coming from. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Would you say that the experience that you had and how you feel now has jaded you a little bit to where now you're like man, fuck it, I'm going to go be the dog now, fuck it.
Speaker 1:Man, man come on man.
Speaker 4:You seen what was going on. I ain't got nothing to do with you. I'm broke. You got that? Look at that damn question, motherfucker, why you acting like you don't know?
Speaker 2:Hey man, I don't hey listen, I got to have you say it, brother, I can't say it for you, you know what I'm saying, you know like.
Speaker 4:I say you know it's never yours.
Speaker 1:It's just your turn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, you a turn. You a turn. I didn't say that.
Speaker 4:That was on AJ. That was on AJ. You a turn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm joking. I'm joking, I hear you.
Speaker 4:But what I'm saying is like okay, like you know, you know, yeah, you know, on our perspective, it's like the way that the, that the ecosystem flows.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it is like that. That's just how it is. It's definitely like that, okay.
Speaker 4:That goes for women. Jobs, yeah, opportunity Anything, luck, anything. It's just your turn. Like if if the dial lands on you, it lands on you. It lands on you, it's your turn. Baby. Ball out, it's your turn. Baby. All the girls watching this, it's your turn.
Speaker 1:It's your turn, baby, it's your turn too, If you're watching this and you want to shoot your shot baby, do what you do it might be your turn.
Speaker 3:You just never know. You never know unless you try.
Speaker 1:It might be your turn A wise man once said you miss 99 of the shots you don't take. Woo facts. You feel what I'm saying?
Speaker 4:Shoot them bitches, you miss all the shots you don't take. Yeah, come on now.
Speaker 3:You miss all the shots you don't take.
Speaker 1:Yeah, come on now, because I'm shooting that bitch from half court.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2:He helped marry that. The gym man. I appreciate y'all. You're a shit bro. I appreciate you. You lost 100 pounds. That's fantastic bro. I appreciate y'all, man so.
Speaker 1:I've been getting it in, bro, you know. So I love the way that I look now day. You know I'm saying that's my confidence level, you know. So as it should be. Yeah, absolutely, man. I don't feel like no female really out of my league. You dig what I'm saying like in a way of I'm a good dude. You know I'm saying I stand for something. I have real principles and morals that I stand on. So I feel like I'm every girl I should be. I'm not, you know, because every girl don't deserve a good nigga but I feel like I'm every girl's type. So I feel like I don't. I don't feel like nobody's on my league for real. I feel like every man should feel like that.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 1:You should always feel like that, never let nobody belittle you as a man because he may got more money than you, that's true. He may look better than you, that's true. He may be fucking the dog shit out of her, that's true. But you feel me. What makes you you?
Speaker 4:You feel me like it's the way a dude carries himself? Yeah, absolutely like a lot of people now they're, they have, uh, examples that you know, always, not always, but they usually, you know, represent superfluous types of methods.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like oh, absolutely, it's all surface shit.
Speaker 4:You know, I'm saying a lot of his vibe too hell yeah, but in. In reality, it's a blend of both you know it's the physical and the metaphysical right so you have to have a good blend of both.
Speaker 2:To actually make it work.
Speaker 4:And that's just to get in the fucking door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know what I'm saying that's just to get their attention.
Speaker 4:You know what I'm saying, but the thing is it's like the game is more ruthless than that.
Speaker 1:It is very visceral and it's very physical like there are certain parameters that if you don't meet them, it's like sorry, yeah, you just don't matter what vibe you got, yes, no, no, you just either meet it or you don't, and you gotta, you gotta, accept your place in the pecking order hell or you know I'm saying you gotta work around it you gotta find something that works for you, or, or, like you said, or, or, if you really want you know you want to change your outcome, you can go and get your ass in the gym.
Speaker 4:Put yourself in a different place.
Speaker 3:I agree with you for the things you can't control. Yeah, for sure get your ass back in there speaking about that right, okay I see what you're
Speaker 4:saying though look, every single person has a fucking six-pack, right? It just ain't showing, okay, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Okay with me, with me being ignorant about the total, but it's in there.
Speaker 1:Mine definitely ain't showing, mine neither, but I'm working on it.
Speaker 4:Goddammit, same here, brother, same here brother, okay with me being ignorant about the total statistics, right, let's just say 10% of the world is actually showing their abs. Right, that's the ones that's probably getting more attention than people are. True, absolutely, absolutely.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say look Furious, we can't all deadlift 500 pounds like that right.
Speaker 1:We can't all deadlift we are.
Speaker 2:We are, oh, excuse me, 700 gosh damn bro.
Speaker 4:So we can't all be like you, bro, you can't deadlift 700 pounds and shit like there is because like as much, no, no like, because I I agree with you on vibe and swag and all that stuff. Yeah, I do know like there's also help for sure like. Just like men are visual, women are visual too very 100 they're too. They're probably more visual than us.
Speaker 2:They look at hair and style and fucking acne and your jawline.
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying you gotta be tapered you take care of yourself, because I mean obviously look man fellas out there.
Speaker 3:Man, if you're struggling with women, bro, if you don't wash your ass everyday, you don't smell good.
Speaker 1:You don't take care of your basic hygiene you fucking up, bro, yeah, you feeling bro.
Speaker 4:To second what AJ said, it's like okay if you meet all the basic criteria and you don't have good hygiene. Like okay, you're just being lazy bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you should be lazy, bro.
Speaker 4:You meet the basic criteria, what lasts?
Speaker 3:You gonna fuck somebody, all right, someone gonna fuck you out there.
Speaker 1:all right, I'll let you know. Someone gonna give you that pussy, bro. Somebody gonna open her legs to you, dog. You gonna find somebody, bro. She gonna fuck your life up too. Hell yeah, she gonna fuck your life up Bro that Right up, that's true, and you can be like man. Why did I want this so much? Because we didn't have it bro. We didn't have it bro. Congratulations. You plagued yourself.
Speaker 4:Plagued yourself. Bad too. You got to play by your fucking nature, bro.
Speaker 1:Nature man. Oh shit man, because when they got that WAP, come on.
Speaker 3:Yup, and it come with it bro bro, bro, bro, hold on when you in there, though you don't give a fuck about nothing else. You're like man. This shit is worth it, man bro, but bro Once you get it.
Speaker 4:you're like man Before the WAP right Cheeks. You know what I'm saying? Fucking rack.
Speaker 1:It's like damn and the face.
Speaker 2:It ain't nothing like the soft ass. Oh, I'm here, I'm here for it. You got me.
Speaker 3:He said Yahtzee.
Speaker 1:Yahtzee.
Speaker 3:We need to make that shit A fucking soundbite, bro, yahtzee, I'm telling you bro man.
Speaker 1:It ain't nothing like that.
Speaker 4:Y'all. That's the only time. They know what they doing bro, that's the only time they know what they doing. That is the only time that they get a fucking Free guillotine on you.
Speaker 1:Okay, only time. Hell yeah, bro. You know what I'm saying and you be so vulnerable. Oh, hell yeah, you just.
Speaker 4:Chop, take me, take me, take me to heaven, hey dog, oh, I will. Hey, that's some real. I will fuck your brains out, that's some real shit.
Speaker 1:That's some real man. Let me tell you something bro, when that shit bussin' it's boy, that shit bussin'
Speaker 4:10 out of 10. 10 out of 10? I recommend it.
Speaker 3:Nah, for sure, bro, I'm telling you, man, every man knows man when you're in that point bro, your past loss of size, bro, it's done. It's done, bro.
Speaker 4:You're not gonna, Bro, it's built, oh bro it's done, so like you're not going to, that's no coming back from that, bro. Bro, it's built within us, bro.
Speaker 3:Bro, like it's in our genes, bro, it's in our genes bro, it's like it's the actual feeling bro, it's like hold up Cheeks.
Speaker 1:Grit man Rip waist and bro and the, a woman with a nice ass. Dog, your titties can be little bitty, itty bitties, itty bitty, titty committee. I don't mind those, I don't mind them.
Speaker 4:I don't mind them.
Speaker 1:He's like I don't discriminate I don't discriminate, hey bro, but when you got an ass, bro, and you can really hear that, oh my God, you definitely yeah.
Speaker 3:You make up for bro. He's destroying that shit.
Speaker 4:I'm telling you it don't even have to be a big ass, it gotta be just a nice ass, like a nice, just a nice ass you know we accept them all yeah, cause it could be a little ass.
Speaker 3:But it's a nice ass. We accept them all.
Speaker 1:It's a nice ass but you gotta, you gotta be able to throw that motherfucker don't lay like no motherfucking dead fish in this bitch, kick you out.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah yeah, you gotta go. Hey, man, fucking is a two-person thing, hell yeah, Bitch you better do something, Bro. She gotta ride on it, she gotta do something too, she better do something. You gonna slam it all right, but she gonna do something too, man. Man, I'm telling you, bro, she gonna ride on it and do all that shit, Because I'm going to do something.
Speaker 1:Hell no I don't like it For you bitches who lay like that, I, I will probably say, man, I had too many of those bro.
Speaker 4:You heard it here on Time to Talk, yeah.
Speaker 3:You heard it here bro.
Speaker 1:It's Time to Talk. You heard it here we hate you bitches, hell yeah yeah, what a passion we all do bro.
Speaker 3:Ditch your ass up. And I agree because every man may not admit it, but I'm going to say it for him. Shit, Most men don't like that. Shit bro.
Speaker 1:Don't like it, we hate it bro.
Speaker 3:No, we in there putting in work, but we expect y'all to do it too, man.
Speaker 1:And I'm in this, I'm sweating.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, that's what I'm saying. I'm really in here working you better sweat too, damn it. I'm my mama, bro, and I'm not talking about my sweat dripping on you, bitch, I'm talking about yours coming out, man, exactly, bro, like that you know, and I'm a big nigga, so if I'm really in here, you feel me.
Speaker 1:I'm really here applying it. You Come on, man my stomach ain't the only thing hanging low, so I ain't in this bitch. You feel me? Nah, we not doing it. I'm in here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we getting it in. He said we ain't yeah.
Speaker 3:Come on man, they ain't doing it. It ain't low, yeah, oh that's a fact, man.
Speaker 1:All that fat nigga stigmatism y'all got cracking. Leave that shit for problem, man.
Speaker 3:They probably the ones that can't find it. Yeah, they can't find it cause I can find my shit. Fuck you talking about yeah my shit fierce.
Speaker 2:You know, I see my shit every day. Bro, fuck you talking about my shit.
Speaker 3:Say hello to you when you do my shit stick out farther than my stomach.
Speaker 1:Nigga, fuck you talking about, I don't like that we gonna get that big nigga kill man? We not that stereotype? I am Say we are the ones. No offense, no offense, furious.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying? I used to be plus size. I used to be plus size too.
Speaker 3:It ain't no, I probably still been, so you don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, okay, okay okay, man, so he know what I'm just saying bro, oh yeah. If you Any girl out there that y' I guarantee you fall in love.
Speaker 3:I guarantee you.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's no love like us, bro, I promise you, I second that.
Speaker 2:You heard it here, man. You heard it here, baby.
Speaker 1:And if you like the way these words coming out of my mouth, you know what my DMs is.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm talking about yeah, be wavy, and if you don't know, yeah, if you don, wavy, Look it up, come on, tap in with me, baby, I'm single ready to mingle. And for all you lazy ass out there, don't worry, you can just look in the description below. If you're that lazy you don't want to click and get to that, come on.
Speaker 1:Just click it with your little lazy ass.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, like my man. Come on y'all on that man.
Speaker 3:So circling back, I was wondering, man, if you don't mind I think it's that time if you don't maybe play a track for us. Absolutely, I was gonna ask for two man, but I don't wanna overdo it because I know you haven't released it to the public yet.
Speaker 1:Oh man, we gonna get it in whenever you're willing to give Thomas talking exclusive of.
Speaker 3:We're more than appreciative of you having it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely, though that's the real question okay, what do you think?
Speaker 3:how about one deep one and one that's like more like you know? Not so deep, but I still want a deep one because the project is deep. I want to be respectful, you know so.
Speaker 4:Adding the way you said, for sure a deep one. And if, if it's one that you're comfortable with having out. You know, I'm saying like okay, like if, if you're, if you're, let's say, if you're assigned, and they're like, hey, drop this one today that you're comfortable with fucking dropping but like heartbreak stories are just in general, like let's say that you had a video out for it and already I'm saying and and that was the fucking track. Like you know what, I'm gonna fucking drop this?
Speaker 3:shit. Yeah or fuck it both. Both scenarios. I agree with some fear.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so whether it's off that project or not, just imagine that it already has a fucking video out and you want people to go to the video of that?
Speaker 3:and if you have, and if you exactly, and if you have one on Heartbreak Stories that you're cool with sharing, then do them both. Yeah, you can track two tracks in there. I got two for you.
Speaker 1:I got two for you. So, we're going to start off with this one called no Loyalty, this one featuring my brother, charlie Trill. You know what I'm saying, so we're going to get this one cracking.
Speaker 2:Let's do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, lordy.
Speaker 1:They tryna figure where my heart go. Where my heart go. All I got is God and that 40 walking down that dark road. Lordy the principles that I stand on, nigga, I'm getting tired not having nobody to depend on nigga Petty arguments instead of trying to fix the situation. My reader is not in my description or my occupation. Gangland I done really stood on business Trying to get me and my niggas all out the trenches.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to get me and my niggas out the trenches. Late nights, I can't sleep in check. Late nights, I can't sleep. I'm on a mission. Baby, I just want a tea. Baby, I just want a tea. I can't believe. I really thought they was my homie. I had to sit and watch the niggas turn phone in. That bitch lied in my face how she love me. When I was locked up in that show I felt so We'll be right back. I had to sit up, watch my dog take his last breath. A lot of pain up in my heart. My heart keeps skipping deuces. I've been fighting all these demons. Get them off of me. How you just get up and gonna leave me on bad terms. I've been trying not to let the pain burn.
Speaker 4:It's going to get deep. I just want to let y'all know All right, black and style, yeah, yeah, me too.
Speaker 1:Thoughts oh my God, Okay, I pick my mental have to deal with through trauma. They can't, none of these bitches spin the block. I put it on my mama. I can't dream of the shit that I love so bad.
Speaker 2:I watch my mama dead on the news. That's pain I never wish I had, cause I've been fighting demons. No loyalty I've been fighting.
Speaker 1:No, loyalty, it's a banger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like it, bro. No loyalty. I've been finding it's some real shit man, it's real bass. No loyalty, no loyalty.
Speaker 4:Real shit man.
Speaker 2:You got a second verse.
Speaker 4:Nah, it's just one through that shit. I like that.
Speaker 1:That was all you right? Yeah, that was me and my brother Trey. Oh, yeah, yeah, the harmonizer. Yeah, that was me, that was you. I was going to say yeah, yeah, yeah, he was the first verse. Yeah, yeah, yeah the harmonizer.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was me, okay, that was you. I was going to say Damn what was your first verse.
Speaker 4:He was the first verse yeah, okay, so I liked how his style is unorthodox. It's not like every word rhymes with the next word.
Speaker 1:Nah, he don't do that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah, he just coming.
Speaker 4:It's raw. So your brother raps too. Brother, brother, yeah, that's my brother Trill, keep that man. Yeah, for sure, Keep that bro, that man, y'all fun with it. Be with me, man. You better, man, keep it with you bro. I'm still on you, bro. You better hear that. You better stay on this shit bro. Stay on this shit bro.
Speaker 1:I appreciate y'all. Man, I got definitely saying you know what, to be honest, to talk about that record, like we, that was something we just did. It wasn't nothing, I was playing. He was just at the house. He came over and he was like man, we should get in the studio and I was just like, well, shit, how you feeling. You know, and at that time, you know this was before we lost my cousin, you know. So, you know it just was like before any of that happened. You know different, five different funerals. You know I'm saying he really went to five different funerals, his homies that he lost, you know. So one of them was one of my homies, long-lived t-mac, you know what I'm saying. And other four was just people he knew. I didn't. I knew of them but I didn't really know them, you know so you know um, so you know long-lived geo, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So long-lived mk, a huge part of the fam. He loved the music, you know what I'm saying. And he died in a motorcycle accident. So you know what I'm saying. So he really went to five different funerals he's really talking about. He really was front row at five different funerals. He held five different caskets. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So he chilling in the house eating it was like man, let's just get a studio and the beat came on and he kind of just went the way it was gonna go. You know what I'm saying, so that's really emotional yeah and that's a very like soul.
Speaker 3:It's very fitting. Yeah, it's very heartfelt, it's very fitting, and it's like for sure.
Speaker 4:No, yeah, that's, it's also another version of heartbreak bro it is a lot of his closest boy he did damn.
Speaker 3:I love it. I love that dog because it's like mean. I don't love the heartbreak. Don't get me wrong, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Let me clarify, though. Let me clarify but.
Speaker 3:I love how it ties into your overall message of what men go through bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And it may not be a relationship, just relationships. It's also it's just life, bro, bro, life.
Speaker 3:Can heartbreak be broken? Life is going to do what it's all how?
Speaker 1:you respond to it, bro, and he was really going through something, so that record for him and I'm sure, very therapeutic for him too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was, bro it was and that song, we, that song is like almost like eight months old. So that just goes to show you within. You know, it's almost been a year since we recorded that, so imagine how much shit went on now. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that just goes to show you. People deal with shit, man, and you just never know, you know what I'm saying you never know somebody going's going through.
Speaker 1:That's why I never judge a book by its cover. I kind of let people give me their own version of them before I go listen to somebody else got to say.
Speaker 4:You dig what I'm saying. Big facts, smart man, you a smart man bro, Trying to I'm a little educated. You know what I'm saying. Hey, hey, hey. We knew that when we linked up.
Speaker 3:Hell yeah, you're bro, oh yeah, and that's why, when I told him you were coming on, he's like oh hell, yeah Word up yeah, man, you probably coming through man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I'm here, man, we live in the face. It was long overdue. This ain't gonna be the last time, man, absolutely not, hell no no-transcript.
Speaker 3:I was gonna say there's not much to add to it. It speak for itself, man, we kind of already.
Speaker 1:It talks man, dear mom is uh and this one, I'm sure I'm sure it's gonna speak for itself too, and what's?
Speaker 4:dope too about this title is like you know, obviously you know.
Speaker 3:Tupac right.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4:So it's like when you do drop it man it's like oh shit, you're right, that's a good comparison.
Speaker 1:Right there, it's something this right here is very emotional. You know what I'm saying going to the cemetery for this video, you know so this is to go to show you how emotional, yeah, this is really like
Speaker 3:it's one of the ones. That's going to be a tough dance, hell yeah.
Speaker 1:My cameraman ain't even nervous, you know what I'm saying. He probably be record, like you know he's like hey, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we're gonna take a whole day on this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, dear mama is uh I think anybody who lost anybody in your life you know even if it's your mom. You know, your brother pops anybody you know I'm saying my condolences, brother. You know I'm saying so, losing your father. You know this is a song where you can. You can relate to that. It's like having a conversation with somebody you can't talk to. Oh man, you did.
Speaker 2:You know I'm saying because you know, heaven ain't got no cell phones you you dig what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It doesn't so yeah, it's fun to get real man. So y'all ready, let's do it. Y'all ready? All right, man let's rock. Ready for this?
Speaker 3:He locked in. All right, he locked in. Yeah, huh.
Speaker 1:I just want to have a conversation with my mama. Heartbreak stories. It's real man this is real.
Speaker 4:I like that You're not right.
Speaker 1:Okay, damn, mama, I'm sorry for all the sins that I did, all the mistakes that I had. I'm just honestly your kid Shit. I wish that I could call, but heaven ain't got no fucking cell right. I've been fighting. All these demons Felt like I'm looking at hell's gate. Mama, please say your son, we'll be right back. I got a letter gagging. I'll throw it up chonky. All this pain that I got a nigga gonna feel it when I'm on it. Man, my mind fucked up. I can't even trust my homies, been stomped in my back so much and my spine not even on me, had a family broke apart. I don't know what to do. Every time I call granny. I just want to talk to you why God leave me down here, he should have let me go.
Speaker 1:She have to do to deserve this. I didn't deserve this, all this pain that I got. I didn't deserve this Contemplating suicide. I didn't know my purpose Is living life with all this pain inside really worth it? Answer me, please, answer me please. I just want to have a conversation with my mama. I just don't, I don't know what to do, man Fuck. And that is, Dear Mama, bro, yeah.
Speaker 4:That shit Bro, okay, okay, look, look, look, look yeah.
Speaker 3:Wavy. Is it bad that I wanted to hear more? That's bad, bro. Is it bad that I wanted to?
Speaker 4:hear more. Hold on, hold that thought, damn bro. Hold that thought, bro, that shit was hard. Look, I'm going to tell you this, man, you got to keep, you got to do one more verse.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you want another verse, bro, bro, it's missing one more.
Speaker 4:Connect, bro, the fucking progression, bro, the way that you're just you're adding to it and it's like, bro, it's getting deeper and deeper and it's like it's kind of like it's like a cliffhanger at the end. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But it's like I know you got more. Yeah, for sure. I know. You know Amatu wants to know. You know we was going to save it for the tape, but we're going to be exclusive here on Timeless Talks, so I got an interlude where it's very emotional. I'm going to pretty much have a female talking to me, but I have this thing where it's going to be like I'm having a conversation with my moms. You know what I'm saying and we're going to be on the phone and so she's going to talk, but we're going to have this conversation. So at the end of that song we're going to have a conversation. So in the video you're going to see, it's like I'm going to be at the cemetery and I'm going to pretty much pick a phone up. You know what I'm saying and it's going to say Mom calling, and I'm going to put the phone on the tombstone and it's going to be like we're having a conversation.
Speaker 2:You know, what I deep man, that's hard, yeah, that's just hard, it's just the beginning.
Speaker 1:I don't know them the first two songs, man, them ain't even we ain't even got in but bro, hey, just keep doing it, keep writing, keep making music.
Speaker 4:Man Iron sharp as iron. Absolutely Just keep on staying sharp, keep your paying game up, bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Your penmanship is dope just keep at it, man, I appreciate y'all and you already know man.
Speaker 4:You already know man yeah, when you're going through a funk, that's the fucking time to write.
Speaker 1:That's the best time to write. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:So it's like just keep at it, bro.
Speaker 2:That shit right there, that shit fucking inspired me bro you know what I'm saying and I love that shit, bro like hey man, I got homies that spit too bro.
Speaker 4:Some shit bro, y'all are just like. It's just giving me nostalgia, bro.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying? It's time to work.
Speaker 2:It's time to work they inspire me just like you, and that's what they say. You too, shit, you know what I'm saying, so it's like you know what I'm saying but yeah, man, hey, thank you for letting us hear this.
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course man.
Speaker 4:This fucking opus bro, this magnum opus bro.
Speaker 1:Cause this, this is a magnum opus. We're gonna give you flowers While you can stay on, man. I appreciate you, man, when you drop this, bro, when they look back.
Speaker 4:Bro, this is gonna be a magnum opus, bro. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4:Because I already know, bro, what you got coming after this, bro Is gonna be.
Speaker 2:Crazy.
Speaker 1:Crazy, bro, but for what you're about to shake up? Yeah, no for sure. Yeah, dear Mama definitely set the tone, you know, because you know this is crazy. And you know my sister wasn't even born yet, she was only seven months while my mom was murdered. So you know, I got a song called Dear Sister.
Speaker 4:You dig what I'm saying, so in essence you can make that as a part two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, In conjunction. That's that's how it starts off, because it's called the heartbreak stories. So it's gonna start off on my heartbreak and then it goes to okay, well, here's another part of that. Every every song is different.
Speaker 4:It's a different scenario and may I add two minutes. Sorry for your loss man, I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Thank you from all of us. Yeah, thank you, bro. I appreciate y'all, man you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it's very deep god rest your, your mother's soul, man, yeah, man, I'm going to do my best to make her proud.
Speaker 1:That's the biggest thing. That's what keeps me going every day. Hey man, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I'm proud of you, man.
Speaker 1:Thank you, man. I appreciate it brother.
Speaker 4:I got no blood ties to you bro, blessings, brother, I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 3:I you on here, bro. Like I said, I appreciate y'all for having me man.
Speaker 1:I'm loving the vibe I'm definitely coming back, for sure oh yeah, that's the thing, when the next paint drop.
Speaker 2:You know where I'm at, man, catch me at time, let's talk, we appreciate that exclusive on time.
Speaker 1:Let's talk only you know yeah okay, so do that bro hell yeah, we're happy about that shit, man.
Speaker 3:We appreciate you, bro, absolutely and I'm gonna tell you, man, like, like, furious, the same man I I was, like I was, was ready for the next part but I wasn't ready. I was like man, let me get myself ready. You got to prepare yourself, man, because you know, you got to think like.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm speaking for people who can't talk to their dead relatives. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:And it's a lot of times where I do have questions you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Of course that was the you know. Is living with all this type of pain really worth it? You know what I'm saying, Because it was a time at one point in my life where I thought about suicide. Of course, you know I very much was rebellious, you know.
Speaker 3:I very much was angry, unfortunately, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So I had a lot of questions, you know and I even questioned my belief at one point in time.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. So that song father in my life, you know I didn't the only father figure I had, I had to watch my grandfather drown. May God rest his soul. You know. So, the only father figure I had, I watched him die in front of me. So you got to understand like I, my mom was dead on the news. Two years after that my grandfather died in front of me. You dig what I'm saying. Then my auntie died. You said she was murdered. Yeah, she was murdered and my mom was shot seven times. Was that the wrong place, wrong time? Yeah, pretty much from the story that we got, you know from the streets and from you know the police was pretty much. They came for her boyfriend at the time. You know what I'm saying. She was with a man and her man was selling weed and the dude pulled up like he was going to buy some weed pretty much no-transcript off running like it's just not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's just not, and and you know, and what was funny about that? I'm gonna share something. A testimony was my mom died in front of my car seat and you know what to say this. I was just dropped off at my grandmother's house. My grandmother and my mom got into a huge argument my grandmother last time seeing her daughter. They argued she begged her not to leave. She's like don't go to him.
Speaker 2:My grandmother hated her boyfriend. She felt it.
Speaker 1:My grandmother's very religious and she felt it in her spirit. I believe it. She told her. She said, you know what, just don't feel right, don't leave. She's like, just stay here, like you can stay with us. And my mom was just, you know, trying to figure life out. You know, being young and being in love. And you know and my grandmother you know, she was pregnant. Two weeks later my mother was dead. On the news. My grandmother, you know, her daughter was dead. She found out on the news. My auntie, who passed away, called and said where's your grandma? And I'm like she's right here. My auntie's screaming and I'm like what the fuck going on? You know I'm young, auntie wants you. You know what I'm saying. She that she went through.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So I tell people a lot of times, man, like you know, no matter what you go through in life, you know what I'm saying. You can overcome anything. You dig what I'm saying and I'm a living testimony of that. You know I was at the bottom and I know people be like, oh, I was very well off mentally, man.
Speaker 4:I was at the bottom of the bottom, like that's a testimony to you, bro. Yeah, for sure you bro, you're like I mean I don't know the ultimate plan of you know whoever runs this whole existence?
Speaker 1:bro, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4:But, bro, you have what it takes to fucking get out of that shit bro.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. You feel me.
Speaker 4:Yes, you do, Absolutely, Bro, and so I'm just saying man, just stick with it, because bro- you're. You heard it, man your oratory bro the way that, the way that, like that, like you speak bro yeah, that pain you're gonna connect with people yeah, for sure you feel me, so just just continue to be, to be vulnerable you know, you know, you know who.
Speaker 3:You reminded me of love. And don't get me wrong, you're wavy. You're your own person.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't get me wrong when I say it's always a comparison though, man, yeah, for sure I hate to do it man.
Speaker 3:I don't don't got no comparison. Nah do it. Nah do it man. I want to hear it man. I love it, bro, I love it. You know who you reminded me of in the last track Joyner Lucas.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, and that's an honor, bro, that's an honor, and I say that, no disrespect, you're your own person.
Speaker 3:No, that's an honor.
Speaker 2:I won't disrespect you, bro. You're my boy. I got love for you. Jordan Lucas gets deep as fuck. Jordan Lucas is crazy bro.
Speaker 3:So I mean, you could live up to that.
Speaker 1:His wordplay? Yeah, his wordplay is crazy, bro. His wordplay is crazy If you listen to Jordan Lucas. Anybody. That's an honor, bro. I very much appreciate that. Nah, that's what you reminded me of. I'm telling you, even surpassing that level yeah, man, I'm trying to stick to it.
Speaker 3:Man, I'm trying to, but absolutely you know, like say remind me of doesn't mean that you're like him, bro you're your own person you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:But you need similarities. But I say I definitely need similarities. I listen to Joyner Lucas man, so I definitely have a little bit of him in me for sure you know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Number one, the number one competitor is yourself, bro.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. You are against yourself. You're not bro.
Speaker 4:Every artist got their own lane. They're all in competition with themselves. You know what I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, you're going to get compared, right. Of course, absolutely, but it's like bro, no one can say it like you can, though.
Speaker 1:Can't, nobody say it like you can no-transcript.
Speaker 4:There's a certain aspect.
Speaker 1:That goes to it, bro. He bring a different aura to the show. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 4:It's personality, it's a vibe. It's every kind of thing. It's like what he's been through. So if the shoe fits, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You got to do what you got to do.
Speaker 4:But yeah, but man, that shit was beautiful man. Thank you again. I agree with you.
Speaker 1:Of course, man Of course.
Speaker 3:But you know what, though, man? It is definitely that time now.
Speaker 2:It's that time I got something ready or what you know what it is.
Speaker 1:I got to put you on the spot, bro.
Speaker 4:Hold on, hold on. You know what? Let's switch it over.
Speaker 1:Are you going acapella or you need to? Okay, you know we're going to get deep. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:All right, let's do it.
Speaker 1:That's fine, man so we're going to what I said, okay, so I remember walking in that courtroom, walking down that hallway, walking out. That bitch look to the sky. Shit, we all pray. Lost in my thoughts got me seeing shit the wrong way. Being a real nigga, make it harder. I go the long way. Bitch, I'm counting on me Back against the wall. I'm looking straight, ain't no faking on me. It's a 40 by my side, so play it cool. Please don't walk up on me. Gangland, you ain't gotta be Signed to the streets. Shit. I chose the right route. I still had enemies and beef. All this fabricated lies Got niggas turning in they sheets. I'm the master character Leveling hard you gotta beat. And I simply made a mistake. I had my granny with a belt. See everybody watch you fall, but ain't looking down trying to help why my love was got to die.
Speaker 1:See the pain in my eyes almost make you tear up like you're watching the sunrise. All the shit I did for people, in return I got lies. They say they fucking me the long way when it's they turn. They went to hide. Yeah man.
Speaker 3:Yo bro, yeah, man, damn Damn that was deep bro, Damn Okay.
Speaker 1:Get like that. Yeah, get like that. That's real, bro. These are real.
Speaker 1:I don't rap about nothing that I'm not really telling you. I'm telling you this for a reason I was experiencing that you know what I'm saying. That's why I tell people all the time you can't trust my trust is very limited and it's not because, like, oh, I'm one of my. I got trust issues, like I'm a grown man, I just know how life works. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And I put my freedom on the line and when I was in the courtroom I'd have it wasn't 15 homies behind me. You feel what I'm saying? My, I didn't have a gang of family behind me. I was know what the fuck really going on. I just know, hey, this is what you, this is what you charge with, this is what you're looking at. You know the da walks. I ain't even got a lawyer. I'm talking to the day like he, my lawyer. I didn't even know what the fuck was going on. So that just goes. That just showed me right then. And there, like, my loyalty is not like, they don't give a fuck. People don't give a fuck about how you really doing. You know what I'm saying. And when I said you know people, everybody looking down, but they ain't looking down trying to help. People will watch you fall.
Speaker 1:They'll look at you like damn that nigga fell off, he gained 100 pounds again. He looking weird, all kind of shit. They not ask you what's wrong.
Speaker 2:When I was depressed and when I was suicidal.
Speaker 1:I can't tell you. I didn't have nobody to come ask me are you okay? Nobody genuinely asked. This was going over a year span, bro, like a year and a half. Like you know I'm saying I was really depressed bro, and I never had that. Hey, are you genuinely okay? You know what I'm saying. Like I had to question myself like damn, when the last time I had a hug like you know what I'm saying. Like in that moment, you know what I'm saying. So that just goes to show people like you are more than whatever you feel like you're going through. You know I'm saying you can overcome anything.
Speaker 1:Because, like I tell people bro, I was I was bro, minutesutes, hours, seconds Away from suicide. You dig what I'm saying. So, and if I can code that to man, I'm always happy brother, like it's nothing can bother me for real.
Speaker 2:It's a choice at that point, don't let that bother you. It's a choice. It's a choice. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So.
Speaker 1:I walk around smiling, bro, we man. Come on, man, y'all know what. At the end of the day, I'm who I am. You dig what I'm saying. I get there when I leave here, all this shit stay here and I get to go home. You dig what I'm saying? So I look at that every day and I thank god every morning I wake up. You know what I'm saying, so I overcame something that was deep.
Speaker 1:So any anybody out there dealing with suicide, you know I'm saying mental man's mental health matters. You dig what I'm saying man stay strong keep your head up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely and not only that. Not only that, though. You know what I'm saying. It could always be worse too. Hell yeah, it could always be worse. So, like anything that you're going through, like not saying that what you're going through is not the worst, but, like you know, we've all been through tribulating times, all of us okay, all of us okay.
Speaker 4:And sometimes it feels like you have nowhere else to fucking go. You know what I'm saying. But, like, sometimes it's like, once you get through it, if you do, it's like damn, like that was hard, but fuck like it could have been worse. It could have been way worse. It could have been way worse, Way worse. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I mean, if you're, you are in the worst stage. There's always. There's always. It's called a minor setback for a major comeback.
Speaker 1:Come on, preach brother. Oh, a minor setback for a major comeback. Come on, man, because you ain't going to do nothing but blossom out of that.
Speaker 4:But to blossom it takes the willingness to put in the work Absolutely so you have to put in the work. It's not Time's been spent. Here you go Exactly. You have to really put in the work to really get yourself out, Whatever you're going through, even if you got yourself in that position you have to take yourself out If someone else puts you in that position by proxy or by whatever the fuck you're still up to you. It's fucked up. But that's just how it is, especially for men. You know what?
Speaker 4:I'm saying I can only imagine how it is for women.
Speaker 1:For at the end of the day, you're an individual. You know I'm saying and this is.
Speaker 2:This is this is how it's gonna go, yeah absolutely, though.
Speaker 4:You know, and at the end of the day, just if we think about the people you know in the past, you know, let's just say ancient times, right they didn't have internet. Nothing, right, absolutely they, they. All they could do was fucking imagine that that, that there was something up there, yeah, you're listening to them.
Speaker 2:Oh, I think, I think oh, please.
Speaker 4:And they're, you know, at the same time doing stuff, Not saying that it's not happening, but it's like. What else do they have to go off to verify that it's actually? There's actually, you know, efficacy in what they're doing.
Speaker 1:For sure, that's a real statement.
Speaker 4:So faith if you're an atheist or a theist, faith is a really good thing to have.
Speaker 1:Hell.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's a really good thing to have it makes sense, because it's that hope and that belief that something good is going to come out of something, even when everything looks bleak. You just have to keep on going.
Speaker 3:You don't know what's around the corner. It's very complimenting to the human spirit. You have no idea.
Speaker 4:It's definitely very complimenting to the human spirit. Bro, he drops it. Bro, if he doesn't drop it, nothing happens.
Speaker 1:Right, nothing happens If he drops it, bro.
Speaker 4:It could change his fucking life.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah, change everyone's life around you. Yeah, put that shit out, man. You know what I'm saying. Put that shit out and let it be known. It's up to you.
Speaker 4:It's up to you Whether you're going through good times or bad times. You got it. The UAV is a living testament to that.
Speaker 1:Living testimony man.
Speaker 4:That's great For our demons for real AJ as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I appreciate that, come on, man. Man's mental health matters, bro. We don't talk about it enough. We don't, and I vow to.
Speaker 1:I say you know, if I ever get to that platform of lives, we're with that. No, we're with that for sure. Bro, you feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely man.
Speaker 1:So once we really get it going and we get to that point, we definitely going to bring y'all home, man, we're going to bring timeless talks and we're going to let these men, you know, talk their.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know we're definitely at that spot.
Speaker 1:I appreciate it, gang. Yeah, I'm just trying to you know. I'm just trying to you know, speak, speak my piece, because at the end of the day, bro, we all, we got you feel what I'm saying you, your worst enemy, you dig what true?
Speaker 1:man, we read, brother, we know about outwitting the devil and things of that nature. You dig what I'm saying. It's just a lot of things that people don't speak about as men, bro. I'm just not one of them. Dudes, that's finna, sit here and fake my lifestyle or fake like I'm just. You know, I ain't did this, I ain't did that. I came a long way. You dig what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:And when you get to the top. You got to let them know where you came from so you can motivate the youth. You know what I'm saying. There's a lot of people that you know what I'm saying. Ain't never seen nothing, but you know they need to see it to believe it.
Speaker 2:You feel what I'm saying, I'm living proof. Man, have faith, yeah, faith. And the thing is, bro, because, bro, faith is so tricky, bro, because, for sure shit looks bleak, because you, when you in the flesh yeah, for sure you see this you're like man, this ain't working. You, what you living in the moment, it's not working right now, like what the fuck's going on, and you just, and it's like you gotta keep on doing, do, do, do, and it's like it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 4:Why am I still doing this? Yeah and then who knows however many days years that down the line. Oh shit, that's why exactly, and you're ready for it exactly for what you're about to receive from whatever you know, I'm telling you and I think you know saying people get lost in like they get lost in like the literal part, like, oh well, this isn't logical, blah, blah, blah. It's like. No, it's like this world, the world, look, the world's crazy okay crazy no one knows why the fuck they're here. We're just fucking here.
Speaker 1:That's a real fact and that's it. Nobody really know their purpose for real.
Speaker 4:It gets confusing when you see shit working out for other people and it ain't working out for you, not for yourself, especially when it works out in big ways. You're like how the fuck they do that? And I know them, or I know something about them, and it doesn't resonate. How do they get that? And I don't. And it's just part of the game, because it's everything in one. It's a game, it's a fucking story, it's a fucking you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm saying yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4:It's heartbreaks. Yeah, it's everything all at once. Everything's happening all at once.
Speaker 1:And when they come bro, they come, bro, they come yeah, yeah, there's no remorse yeah it ain't nothing that's coming like on some petty, you know it's like final destination.
Speaker 4:Hell yeah, you know what I'm saying. Hell yeah, that's a perfect goddamn example man, that's a bar.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a bar right there.
Speaker 1:That's a fact, man and you know what, bro, like a lot of the times, you know us as men, you know we. We got a problem with how to put a time frame on success. You dig what, what I'm saying Because it's not a race, it's a marathon. Nipsey said it best. You know what I mean.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Nip man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, long live Nip man.
Speaker 4:I think yesterday was like his six-year death anniversary or something like that. He was man, nip man. I know so many artists would have killed to work with him. I ain't going to. I was paying for that. I was paying for that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was giving up the whole check if you need it.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, man. Yeah, I need that feature. I don't give a fuck if he gave me a fucking eight-bar hook. I need it. I don't give a fuck if he gave me a fucking 20 Gs. Yeah, I don't give whatever you need nigga.
Speaker 1:I'm going to pay him for that. I go broke for this feature.
Speaker 4:Yo, mama saw it differently too his conscience bro he came from a certain. You know era, but he was getting out of that, that's a fact, you know, and he was building and he just had he had a. Just then the mindset that he was nurturing was like, bro, like this if this it just sucks because they all not all the good ones, but a lot of the good ones are taken away, yeah, you know what I'm saying. They're taken away before they can really blossom yeah and become like damn, like what the fuck the?
Speaker 1:real ones, the ones that's really speaking for something. Yeah, man, they get them going. But you know, man, it's so much to that. You know what I'm saying. It's so much, yeah, man, you know. Excuse me, I think it's a lot of more so secret agendas motherfuckers be having Hell. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. So that's just how that shit really, it's just that's really how I go. Honestly, oh yeah, yeah, go ahead and hit that man. I'm, I'm feeling good off that, you hear me. Yeah, you can have that motherfucker. My fact, keep that something off camera, man.
Speaker 2:But you know, it's all good.
Speaker 1:Yeah man.
Speaker 3:So I mean, what did I miss Y'all good, yeah, man.
Speaker 1:We was just talking about Nipusel and things of that nature and just talking about the same thing we was on. The concept never really changed.
Speaker 3:It's. I appreciate that y'all, I appreciate that y'all. All right man. So I mean this has been one for the books man, for sure, for sure. Good to have you come back on soon. Absolutely man we're going to be back. You know what I'm saying. We're going to come talk some more shit. Oh yeah, for sure. Yeah, because I got some more shit in the works too.
Speaker 1:We just talked.
Speaker 3:We're saturated with too much out there too quickly.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Just know when I come back we're going to step even harder.
Speaker 3:Sounds good to me, brother. We're coming even harder, for sure they know. Yeah, morgan, I'm going to make it in fucking hood and shit bro, even about that, you're like man. It ain't like that, bro.
Speaker 1:We love it, man, because you know what it's grind. You know I love somebody trying to do something different and be their own boss. You know what I'm saying? Because if everybody else could do it, why can't we?
Speaker 3:no facts. You didn't know what I'm saying so.
Speaker 1:It's just time to just you know, I love what y'all got going on, man this is.
Speaker 3:I appreciate that, bro, this is dope all right, man. So before we get out of here, bro, go ahead and go ahead and let everybody know, man, where they can find you again. Just put the plugT-S-W-A-V-V-Y man.
Speaker 1:It's Wavy on Instagram, tiktok, facebook whatever y'all use, you dig what I'm saying. My TikTok going up too, man, I did that. Proud of Me challenge that shit doing numbers right now. I got my like 7K. I just posted it. My like 7,000 views. I don't post on TikTok, bro, who are you?
Speaker 4:using. So you're doing what's called TikTok promo too, yeah yeah, yeah, that TikTok promo shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man.
Speaker 1:That shit was booming. Gotta get a video, yeah.
Speaker 4:Get a video man. Get your videographer bro. Get that video man, if you gotta get a chick for the video man.
Speaker 1:Man, we gonna make. Yeah, man Tell him man, Come on. Man, it's my turn.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, it's your turn. Yeah, it's my turn.
Speaker 1:Now. It's your turn, bro. He done, had you all week.
Speaker 3:I need you on Saturday, baby, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4:Yeah, let's make it happen. Hell yeah it. I love the work, man, I appreciate you man, I appreciate you brother.
Speaker 2:I appreciate y'all for having me here. Man Dope podcast. I'm definitely coming back.
Speaker 1:Appreciate them for having me. Man, this was dope. I love the vibe, love to see you.
Speaker 4:What I want to leave with the audience. Like he said, you can come back from anything damn near. You just got to have faith. You know what I'm saying and as got to have faith. You know I'm saying, and as as ambiguous as faith is whether you're atheist, theist, agnostic, whatever, okay, it's not necessarily in god. It's like a belief that something's good is going to come out of your, out of your situation and you just got to, got to keep at it.
Speaker 4:You know I'm saying sometimes unfortunate things are going to happen, but in spite of that, even though it's hard, try to find the silver lining. And you know I'm saying get yourself out of that funk, get yourself out of that rock bottom and get up to where you're living. You know I'm saying you're living good and you'll be able to, you're able to enjoy life for what it is. You know what I'm saying. Like you only got one life for sure, you know so I appreciate you b wavy.
Speaker 2:Thank you for blessing absolutely.
Speaker 1:I appreciate your music. The mic too, bro. Yeah, absolutely, man.
Speaker 4:You know I got y'all many times man, because this is this is very it's timeless bro there's never gonna be another b wavy again yeah, it'll only be ever.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying, even if they do, you can't fuck with the original.
Speaker 4:You know exactly, exactly, they can replicate us if you're a listener out there, appreciate this man. Okay, there's no ai that can recreate what he's recreating.
Speaker 1:Okay, there there's nothing out there for what he's creating.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure, bro, absolutely, that's what I'm ending it off with man Faith, I mean to key off what he's saying, bro, I mean I must add to it other than yeah, man, you keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 2:I do believe that, Not just More ways than one. You know what I mean. Yeah for sure.
Speaker 3:So it's not just gonna be Good music to vibe to, it's gonna be therapeutic For some people, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, relatable, save lives bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to.
Speaker 3:You'd be surprised how many lives you could save with music, man.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. Sometimes you heard artists say They've been told by people. They helped me.
Speaker 3:I think you can help anybody by you in turn obviously pushing that, that, that, uh, you're passing that, uh, that torch man, yeah, so yeah, man, I again I appreciate you, bro. Thank you, for you know what you bring to the table, man. And hey, man, it's been timeless talk. You guys know where to find us. Uh, you know all the extensions are on there. We're on every platform you could think of. We're on spotify, apple music, uh, deezer, like you said earlier, everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I heart radio, come on.
Speaker 3:Everything. Iheart Radio man.
Speaker 2:We're on everything bro, we're on it all.
Speaker 3:And honestly, man, you know, hey, we love y'all for listening. For some reason, Spotify is the one to go to. I'm not mad at it, Fuck it.
Speaker 1:we get the most streams there as long as you tap in.
Speaker 3:Exactly. But aside from that man, you know what man? It's been Timeless Talk. We appreciate you guys. We'll see you guys next week. Subscribe, Hit that like button. We'll see you guys next week for another timeless conversation that never ends. Yeah, I don't know how it goes. Outro Music.
