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👽🛸👾The FBI Files: Mars Astral Expedition & Government UFO Revelations
AJ & Fur1ous dive into declassified FBI files about a 1984 Mars exploration through astral projection and recent UFO Senate hearings that officially acknowledge unexplained aerial phenomena.
• Examining FBI documents detailing a participant who claimed to Astral travel to Mars & see pyramids and tall beings
• Questioning the credibility of Astral Projection claims & lack of proper testing methodologies
• Analyzing the significance of official Congressional hearings on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
• Discussing the likelihood of extraterrestrial life given the vastness of the universe
• Debating simulation theory and its practical implications for everyday life
• Sharing personal unexplained sightings & what constitutes credible evidence
• Considering why government transparency on UFOs is happening now and what might still be hidden
If you've had your own unexplained aerial sighting, we'd love to hear about it. Hit us up on social media & don't forget to subscribe for more conversations that never end.
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And welcome back to the conversation that never ends. This is Timeless Talk. I'm your host, aj. That's your co-host, furious, and we're back for another beautiful episode of Timeless Talk. Yeah yeah, all right, so we're back. We're back. We're back for season five, episode nine. All right, fur're back, we're back. We're back for us, season five, episode nine. All right, furious, we got five more episodes after this show.
Speaker 2:Six more, no, seven more well, I can't count today 16 bro, we're stopping at 16 all right that's usually when we stop at the end of the season first of all I want to say to y' I do apologize for us missing a couple weeks. It's not because of Furious, it's because of me. Got a lot of personal issues going on right now, but maybe not issues. I'll call them personal setbacks, right? Is that a good way to put it? Furious Got some personal setbacks I've been dealing with, so no excuse.
Speaker 2:Sorry that this hasn't been the weekly podcast that it normally is. We're going to get it back to you guys again, starting weekly. We're going to finally try to stick to this schedule. You know it is what it is, but you know, with all the fires going on and the personal stuff going on, the set we're on today is actually my man cave. It's downstairs from the set, the actual set, but me and Freya's figured fuck it, let's record in here today kind of a cool little change of a location, change of change of scenery, right, if you will. But uh, yeah, man, it's, it's been a, it's been a okay year so far.
Speaker 2:Um, today's topic is actually going to be about mars. We're going to talk about some space shit today. Uh, some, some allegations and some old fbi files that were released on christmas day. We're going to discuss that it has to do with the planet Mars, and this person's account of what happened on that planet right, or his reports of it right To an FBI agent Furious, is kind of funny. We're going to talk about that first and then we're going to dive into what's the second topic of the night, mr Furious.
Speaker 3:No, just the Senate hearing on the UFOs.
Speaker 2:Loaded episode y'all. We're going to try to fit as much into it, at least in this episode. We might do a part two, depending on where this goes right, we'll have to see.
Speaker 1:All right man.
Speaker 2:So, man, all right, I'll start us off, bro. You know, in this world it's kind of our governments every government, I'm sure has secrets right as we dive into it. This is also conspiracy. I don't have the ex-file song because I don't want to get a suit or anything, so we have to roll with this one. Yo bro, what are your honest, before I even jump into it into it furious when we talked about this off the record, right?
Speaker 2:what did you think? Because you had a, you had a big ass shit eating grin on your face when I told you I wanted to talk about this and shout out to b money by the way, he's the one that uh dm me with the information to talk about today's episode, right? So what were your initial thoughts when I told, when I ran that shit by you and sent it to you, like hey, bro, what do you?
Speaker 3:think about talking about this on the pod. I recall, you know, reading about it like a while back, like a few years, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it just when I heard about it again, I had to revisit the documents in question and, yeah, I thought it was pretty funny, like it's interesting To bring it up again too, right, You're like what the hell? That shit was amusing. Just like reading it again.
Speaker 2:I'm just like so do you want to tell them what you honestly think right out the gate, or do you want to go over the topic.
Speaker 3:First I'll say, oh well, nah, yeah, just tell them, bro, go ahead. No, I Talk about it first. It's better, you know, talk about it first, I'm not.
Speaker 2:Should I show?
Speaker 3:them the clip yeah.
Speaker 2:Should I show them that clip? Would you just go to the clip real quick.
Speaker 3:Show them the clip, even just describe the clip, I guess.
Speaker 2:Okay, so I'll show them the clip and then when we come back we'll go over it with you guys.
Speaker 1:Wouldn't it be crazy if the CIA just released documents, like on Christmas Day, saying that there were aliens and pyramids on Mars? Yeah, so secret files reveal pyramids and people were on Mars way back decades ago. Hidden deep in the declassified CIA files is Mars Exploration, May 22, 1984, a project aiming to uncover Mars mysteries. Wouldn't it be crazy if the CIA agents used astral projection in order to see what was going on on Mars For anyone unaware? Earlier this year, the CIA released a file saying that astral projection's real and we're pretty much living in a simulation. Just accept it, let's move on. A participant described large pyramids on Mars and they encountered very tall, thin people you know, giants, Nephilim, who knows? And apparently these Anunnaki individuals fled Mars. This was all part of Project Stargate. Have yourselves a Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2:And we're back and we're back. I was just saying we're back and we're back and we're back. All right, so shout out to News Updates for real. I want to give the guy credit for using his video, All right. So what do you think, Mr Furious? Go ahead, you start us off.
Speaker 3:First off, I think the way that he was coming off was just like it's like, bro, you're saying it, like you're there, like you're seeing evidence.
Speaker 2:He's describing it like it was him that had the experience.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's like oh, this is this. So, therefore, this is this, and it's like what if it is those things it sounded? The way that he's saying it. He's saying it, he's kind of embellishing it a little bit, because that's not first off. You have to sorry that's my bad.
Speaker 3:It's like, first off, you have to give the proof that astral projection is possible, like there has to be. If it can't be measured, there's no way that you can really prove that shit. You know, like you have to prove. Like just you perceiving it like yourself doesn't prove it for freaking someone else. You know I'm saying like if you're the only one that has that ability, how is this person going to be aware of that? You'd have to do a different test to prove it, not that that can't be the first test. You know I'm saying yeah oh, it's on mars.
Speaker 3:Like what the fuck? No, how about this? What's? How many fingers do I have up right now? Yeah, that's fair what am I thinking right now? Some shit like that, you know. I'm saying like why are you?
Speaker 2:oh, we're going to mars already that's true, well, I mean, here's the thing, though those files are have to have some accuracy in them, right? Or is it all bullshit? I think accuracy for what? Oh?
Speaker 3:that's true.
Speaker 2:For telling the truth, there's no one holding them accountable. They're claiming these are fbi files too.
Speaker 3:No, no I'm not saying that they're not. Look there, there's people there's like magicians, right, or people that I know back in the day, right when they said that they were like telekinetic right. They could move things with their minds, right, and they would be studied by scientists, right? There's some old video of this woman, right, that claimed to be telekinetic. She might've been very slightly like half of a billionth of a fucking percent.
Speaker 2:So you think it's actually doable? Telekinesis.
Speaker 3:Who the fuck knows? Possibly, but at this time, no, okay. So anyways, because this was in the 80s, right? This was from the 80s? No, no, so this video I think it was from like the 50s or the 40s One of those, right. Well, not the one we just showed but no, no, no, not not that one, but just to. I'm trying to, yeah, sorry, say like how I'm trying to relate, yeah, how you can't just make a claim because it sounds, because it sounds convincing, right yeah so this person was supposed to be?
Speaker 2:was he reading that person's experience though the participants, or was he?
Speaker 3:just he might have, but it sounds like he was embellishing. Yeah, okay, but to go back to what I'm talking about, about sorry, good, about the telekinetic right. So yeah, sorry, I don't get sidetracked on this video. She's here like trying to move this coin right or this little, this like metal object. She's trying to move it. She's doing some weird ass motion like do some weird ass motion, trying to move this shit for a fucking like forever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's just not moving at all, bro. Okay, and the scientist is there, like he's there just like watching wait, she's, so she's doing a lot of doing a lot of hand movements scientists are just, they're, just, they're studying her, right, okay, because, because scientists take that shit seriously, okay, you?
Speaker 2:know for sure and do it show us.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's doing this shit, so it's not moving did they call her out on her bullshit? They're like hey, no, they probably, who knows? But the shit was not moving right. But I'm saying that study probably went into a paper. They probably did. It got filed right.
Speaker 2:So okay, I see you're going with this there was a cia.
Speaker 3:The cia did investigate. Okay, can you? If you can, in fact, because this person. I see you're going with this this subject was probably claiming that he could do something Possibly right. Let's just say Possibly. Yes, he's claiming that he can do something at the same time that they're conducting this type of experiment with oh, we're trying to investigate astral projection, telekinesis, clairvoyance, right, whatever in this sense would be a form of clairvoyance for this person, because he's trying to recall and time travel, because he's going to time, time, places.
Speaker 2:So he claims you know what I'm saying, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So he's saying this shit. The guy's asking him questions and it's like you didn't give him an initial test to prove it first. You're just assuming oh, take us there. So it's subject documentedada, yada, yada. That's how it. That's on paper what it is. This guy is just making it seem like that means that there's pyramids and it's like, who knows, maybe there is, but that's not the way that you prove that shit, and you're right, it's not.
Speaker 2:Now let me ask you this well, because in that video obviously he didn't do that. Did you catch inside the video as well, though in the clip we just showed? Did you catch how he was like the government presented this to us and said we're basically living in a simulation, just accept it. Did you catch that part? Just accept it. Now, maybe I'm taking it out of context. I probably got to rewatch that shit just to make sure. No, I heard him say simulation.
Speaker 3:I didn't hear the last part. That's just. That's just. That's just a joke, bro. Okay, it's just part of the joke, it's just like oh, like we're fucked.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's basically what he's saying. That's what he's saying okay. So when, when he said, okay, so that's your, I should be saying like oh, like, like it's, it's a, it's like a tongue-in-cheek, it's just a joke okay, so don't take that part.
Speaker 2:So little is he. He's someone that's reporting, just except he's, he's someone. He's someone that's reporting the uh fbi file that was released to us in december, sir, yeah, that's, that's who he is. Look, there was definitely a file, cheers by the way, I didn't choose you this time. We're not gonna spill on the fucking like in the last episode. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying, look, there's definitely a file, right, but it was filed under bullshit. You know what I'm saying? So it was. That's what I'm saying. Man like that shit. It was filed under bullshit cause just reading those documents, right, reading those documents you know off the record, right? Yeah, reading those documents. I'm like you heard me reading them, right. The way that he's answering the questions is like, okay, you heard me reading them, right. The way that he's answering the questions is like, okay, you're imagining something. How else do you keep a lie going?
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying yeah, that's a good question, you can't. I mean well, you can, you can lie more.
Speaker 3:He's describing things the way. That's what I would do if I wanted to keep the light on like oh my god I mean I see, bright light and, uh, a very a blue, a bluish, a bluish flame, you know, or something yeah, bullshit like.
Speaker 2:And that's actually the next thing. I'm glad you're describing it the way you're reading it right now, because that's probably how the participant worded his words in that interview Right what you have Right. Do you mind paraphrasing the interview for the audience here, our viewers and listeners. Remember, because we went over right now briefly with me before, basically, okay, in the beginning the interviewer's asking this. You kind of were giving the accent earlier.
Speaker 3:The subject he's telling you that he's going to be recalling some events from a certain time period.
Speaker 2:Let me get, let me just yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Just pull it up, bro, if you reference it. But furious is about to give us a um, a quick little. Uh, I'll get summarized version or a cliff note version go ahead.
Speaker 2:Let's hear this man Basically tell them the gist of. And now before just to give them some backstory real quick, this gentleman is the guy that's from the astral project that we were just this guy was talking about, right In this last clip? Yep, right, and this is the person that supposedly went to Mars. Did he physically go there or did he?
Speaker 3:just see a projection of it. No, actual projected Wow.
Speaker 2:Okay, see, now we're that's right.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, his experiment is being conducted in person, so this is the gist of it, okay.
Speaker 2:Go ahead.
Speaker 3:This is how it starts, but this is where they should have done the test. Okay, let's hear this. Go ahead. They say so. The guy this A description of the scene yeah, sealed envelope coupled with geographic coordinates. The sealed envelope was given to the subject immediately prior to the interview. The envelope was not opened until after the interview. In the envelope was a three by five card with the following information the planet Mars. Time of interest approximately one million years BC. Wow, so that's the information in a closed envelope. Okay, envelope is closed. Okay, the first test should have been what does this envelope say?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's to me, in me, in my opinion yeah that should be the first question no, I agree, you know what I'm saying. That's what should have been the first question, right?
Speaker 3:okay, so they didn't do that though. Okay, so of course not. So then it goes on to say selected geographic coordinates provided by the, by the parties requesting the information were verbally given to the subject during the interview and to give them some, some coordinates. And and the interviewer he let me see Okay With the interviewer ask him now to to, using the envelope, focus on the coordinates of the subjects. He starts giving him a description of what he's seeing, and the first thing that he says, one of the first things that he says, is he sees a pyramid. Okay Now.
Speaker 3:I'm not, and this is a giant pyramid that's not supposed to be on mars. And it's like I get it. Okay, you're being, you're being tested, but it's like if you don't see what's what's, even, if you are seeing something, what is it to prove? There's no one there on mars to check if there's a pyramid.
Speaker 2:There's no one there, and of course this is what he's supposed to be saw first, right. So my question is how is he seeing it? What's giving them the projection?
Speaker 3:he, he's, it's within him, it's his, his, his perception.
Speaker 1:So astral projection yeah, how does it work?
Speaker 3:is basically, it's like it's like so you know how your awareness is like in your head. Yeah, right, you, you know like how when you dream, you can kind of go different places, but you're still in your body, right? So astral projection is kind of like that.
Speaker 2:So he was asleep. Then His soul left his body type of thing.
Speaker 3:In essence, right, or a part of his consciousness was able to travel that vast distance and observe that right. Okay, able to travel that vast distance and observe that right, okay. But yeah, in this interview the guys asked him to go oh, go, go before this time, right, or go before this time or after this time, and he's naming like time and days and it's like, okay, this person's describing a period of time on this planet.
Speaker 2:Was he witnessing this live while they were asking these questions, witnessing it supposedly apparently? Okay, so I get it. So this was like an interrogation. But during the experience on this planet? Was he witnessing this live while they were asking these questions? Witnessing it supposedly Apparently? Okay, so I get it. So this was like an interrogation. But during the experience? Right. But the knowledge what?
Speaker 3:do you see now Type of shit, right, Right. But it's not like they had prongs hooked up to his freaking brain seeing a projection on the screen.
Speaker 2:Damn, that would have been at least give us a glimpse. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Right, but you're just going off what the person's telling you, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the person is describing Okay, now I see why it's hard for credibility.
Speaker 3:You know this person is he's describing this stuff like oh yeah, I see, I really saw that. I see tall beings, I see, and they're dressed with fitted clothes like okay, at the round this time.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, you have a reference point for having imagination coming up, coming up with some shit on the spot.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to make it seem like downplay what he's saying no credibility at all, but it just sounds a little too far fetched, like because there's, they're just going off his word and like that's the one. See, I bro, if it came, if it came down to a crime. Okay, not to compare the two, but right, but I guess I have to when it comes down to fucking crime.
Speaker 2:Right, yeah, I'm just taking your word for it. It's the evidence.
Speaker 3:It is the evidence you know saying where's the evidence that his astral projection is real well, you can prove. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So they should have literally even asked him like hey, how many fingers I got up you know, yeah, because then what's in the safe and if you, if you're in that state of mind supposedly you can, you can see through things too, right. Right, let me ask you something, bro, for this, for this projection right they claim is real. Is it a fucking drug? Is it a mechanism? Is it just an experience you have while you're sleeping like what? Is there anything you got to take or where?
Speaker 3:I'll say that's projection. I'm not saying it's not, it's impossible I think it's possible. It's more likely when you're asleep, though exactly.
Speaker 2:So, then, because it's like so this guy's claiming he's able to go into that realm while still awake there's no way to, there's no way to prove that, though.
Speaker 3:Like okay, the reason why I was michael, no, so I'm saying.
Speaker 2:So what was what was the, what was the setting then? Does it describe it there? It doesn. It doesn't describe the setting, it just describes. Oh, I gave subject an envelope with certain coordinates.
Speaker 3:It's closed. It's not saying subject is sitting in a white room. It doesn't say that he probably was in a room, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it just doesn't. It doesn't disclose if he's wearing any headgear. It doesn't disclose if he's wearing any shades. It's just a document, just because it's a document.
Speaker 3:It's because it's a documented occurrence does not necessarily mean that it means that the latter is true around that right. So in this case, it doesn't mean that aliens aren't real. It doesn't mean that right, however, a civilization on Mars, the way this person is describing it, because he's perceiving it from a different time like there's no way for us to corroborate that. Yeah, for us to freaking to prove that, who knows, maybe it is true, right, but there's no way to be like he's right, yeah, there's no definitive way yeah and just be like, oh, and then that's crazy.
Speaker 2:He did all this too without, yeah, without being definitive.
Speaker 3:That's the, that's the wild part, yeah and it's like yeah, and this okay, even like with what's it called, uh, dr savey right, yeah, you know how they say that he cured aids, whatever right they say okay, because there's a court, because there's a court allegedly. There's a document that says that he was let off. Allegedly. What was he?
Speaker 3:he was murdered too, apparently in court, I don't know, but I know when he had his case, um, he was he. I know he had to bring in patients and all that stuff for people to like vouch for him or whatever, and then he was let off. Right the best he actually cleared. He was let off. But the thing is that he was, he wasn't. Um, they didn't go at him for the, for the claim that it was for him for practicing without a license, oh something like that, it was something something else. So it doesn't mean the claim that it was for him for practicing without a license or something like that, it was something else. So it doesn't mean, just because that he was let off, that he cured.
Speaker 2:That he cured anything.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. He did promote.
Speaker 2:I heard he also spoke against.
Speaker 3:Good eating and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:There is something I just don't think that he cured, like you know, like good you know, eating and stuff like that yeah, there is speaking.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, I don't think that he that he cured it, because if that was a case, you would have people go like you would be a fucking phenomenon. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 2:Like it'll be one of those things where people are on the news about it Like.
Speaker 3:It would be crazy.
Speaker 2:That person's dead for sure, then the person who found the cure.
Speaker 3:They've already cured like two people.
Speaker 2:Of cancer.
Speaker 3:No of AIDS.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, yeah, you know for sure, magic Johnson don't got it no more.
Speaker 3:He got it, bro, he still has it.
Speaker 2:The rumor is that he's supposed to be healed.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure he's probably in line to get it. I don't think he fucking got it yet, though, you know, because he's doing some type of prevention. The first people no, he's taking pills for yeah, yeah, but there's the first one, the first person to get healed by it. He was. They did it by transferring immunity from a from a person who was immune, naturally well, well, that's wild.
Speaker 3:So that's all it was. It was just he has immunity against it. I see that was the cure. That's the cure. There's no pill that's going to kill it. The pill is just going to suppress it. But you having the gene to be immune to it, you're not going to get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So that's what it is, and there's a long line for that shit. A long line.
Speaker 2:But there is a line though.
Speaker 3:There is a line.
Speaker 2:That's crazy.
Speaker 3:But okay, backtracking right, Sorry, back to where we were. Yeah, what the fuck are we?
Speaker 1:talking about.
Speaker 2:The astral, the fucking Astral projection. Right, Astral projection, yeah.
Speaker 3:So the fucking the astral projection, right, astral projection. So yeah, there's okay, like so like you know, we all okay the reason why I believe in astral projection right we? All dream right and the reason why, we can say we all dream because you, we all, even though we haven't been in each other's heads yeah we understand what, that we have visions when we're sleeping. Right, we can all relate to that.
Speaker 2:So we know that that more or less is true right.
Speaker 3:Now, when it comes to acid projection, to go to places like in real time you know what I'm saying Like they're claiming Not when you're sleeping, because when you're sleeping, I think that you can go to places.
Speaker 3:You're just not going to be aware that you're in that area. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if you're asked a projection, that that signifies a more um, deliberate form of like control. You know what I'm saying, meaning you're, you're, you're adept in this skill, right? So that's the case. What's in the box, right? What's in the safe? You should be able to see through everything.
Speaker 2:Like you were saying back to, we're saying back dragging so if you want to continue, what goes on so that he saw big pyramids? Right then he saw tall gray figures and these are aliens that he was seeing right yeah, and he said they had fitted clothes and he's describing like he's just.
Speaker 3:he's just describing a place, a planet, a barren place, a mysterious place. There's a lot of times where he can't describe anything and in my opinion I'm like he's just running out of shit to say.
Speaker 2:It's true, because how could you not describe what's right in front of your face?
Speaker 2:But maybe the experience of seeing something is, but maybe the experience is so intense. It's so intense, oh my gosh. So my thing is maybe it is bro, maybe. Okay, this doesn't happen to everybody, right, it usually happens to people that don't have an expanded vocabulary, sure. But you ever been in a situation? This has happened to everybody, you included. I'm sure you ever been in a situation where you have a hard time describing what you're. It doesn't happen often, I'm sure, not really Never.
Speaker 3:Where I have a hard time describing, like I don't know what it is.
Speaker 2:It would have to be really really strange looking right for you to run out of to run out of description, I can describe it. I'm the same way, though I would find ways like let's like saying like a furry ball, A floating triangle that's glowing orange and now it's glowing gray, meaning I would be able to tell whoever you know what I'm saying this is what I'm fucking actively seeing right and I would say exactly.
Speaker 2:I would say this is what I'm actively seeing. So it's kind of hard to believe, right, that you're like oh, I don't know what to really describe what I'm looking at.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you do, you can describe it.
Speaker 2:I mean, unless your vocabulary is very, very, very, very short-ended.
Speaker 2:Most people can't describe what they're seeing right Shapes or individuals, like. If I saw a weird creature, bro, like, let's just say, a tall, skinny man, bro, I would have been like I got a Slenderman standing in front of me. I would have made a joke out of it probably. What do you mean? Do you have the actual Slenderman? No, bro, okay, I'm joking. Slender man looking motherfucker full, got long ass fingers. You know, I'm saying he's tall because I I'm a very creative person. I'm sure you are too. I can come up with some shit on the spot, bro. Yeah, everybody can. If it's not hard to do, maybe for some individuals it might be. But I that sounds so believable the way you put that shit. Like, bro, just probably ran out of shit to say like and that's probably what it was.
Speaker 3:Man yeah, I don't put it past this government, man. They lied to us about a lot of shit, so I mean, just because it's an fbi file documented, doesn't mean, it doesn't mean yeah, and you made a good point, like like going back to what you just said about the telekinesis story that was documented.
Speaker 2:Rather, you said like just because that bullshit was documented doesn't mean right. Like so they just as much as they document heavily classified crazy shit, they're going to document the failed experiments too.
Speaker 3:It's the bullshit. Like you said, it's just a record that they've looked into it, that's it so essentially that's true, exactly, I digress so my point results bore any fruit facts.
Speaker 2:I was about to say so I digress, my point being right. I'm only saying that to say to prove your point. It doesn't matter what it is, it just because it was documented doesn't necessarily mean it's factual or they have proof of anything, or it just proves that they're, that they're curious about you know saying yeah but, like you know, the other subject that we're gonna talk about, that's
Speaker 2:proof we're gonna get into that right now. In a second, you know saying no, I can't wait to get into this. That's why I wanted to get to cover this one first, the astral one, because that that one's like you're going based off of that's someone's testimony.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, there's a many which that has some relevance, or it has some.
Speaker 2:What's the word I'm looking for? It has some weight to it it has some, yeah, it does credibility it can. It has some credibility to it because ultimately we're not going to know what the hell he's seen. Right, you're not going to know.
Speaker 3:You can't know definitively, however, unless you're him they should have conducted a test to really really make sure that he is, that he has the skills that he has. Don't just be running an experiment without testing. That's the most. That doesn't prove anything. You're describing me. Look, if someone. Look, let's say let's say I hear a conversation right about people talking about their ghost stories right.
Speaker 3:I've never been through paranormal shit right, but I've watched plenty of paranormal movies. Right, I'm a ghost stories right. I've never been through paranormal shit right, but I've watched plenty of paranormal movies, right.
Speaker 2:I'm a creative person or whatever. Right you can make up all kinds of shit.
Speaker 3:I want to get into the conversation and be like you know what I could really, you know, say I've been through some shit too, you know, yeah, but I can embellish it, I can add things to it. I can add things to that scene, I can capitalize off those ideas.
Speaker 2:You can beef it up to make it sound crazier than what it really is what you really have it.
Speaker 3:I'm like yeah, man. The whole time I'm like I've never been through shit. You know what I mean? Yeah, so that happens, it happens. You know, people don't?
Speaker 2:It does happen, it happens and that's that's what makes it a little more sketch, sketch to to be make it believable.
Speaker 3:I agree it's sketchy, are you good?
Speaker 2:I'm good right now, all right, cool, but anyway, no, it makes it more sketch. I agree with you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and that's the thing, why comes to that stuff? You have to test that shit like you have to like, if someone's saying, okay, let's say, if someone's saying that they can, that they can catch lobs, right, yeah and dunk, or whatever, then they should be able to dunk regular that's true.
Speaker 2:They should do it with you know.
Speaker 3:So when they're called to, you know to perform. It shouldn't be, it should be an issue. It shouldn't be like, oh, you know, like my legs hurting.
Speaker 2:I'm not really feeling it today, coach like nah.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying Like nah, bro Fuck you.
Speaker 2:You should be able to you know, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like the one thing with the test, with the woman, with the psychic shit. Yeah, she at least went out to do the fucking test. Yeah, so there's validity with that. Obviously she went into it Because. So with that I understand that you know what I'm saying. In this instance, she's being tested right then and there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's being tested. Live on the spot, actively.
Speaker 3:This guy? He's not being tested, he's just being asked questions.
Speaker 1:And he's answering them.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:They're not testing him. It's a very subjective type of interview.
Speaker 2:No, and I have one more question for you about it. When you're reading that article, right, does it disclose in there whether he actually, like explained how he got to Mars or why that's what he was watching? Or did it just appear in front of him.
Speaker 3:He was just there. Okay, they didn't. Oh oh, I went through a tunnel, a wormhole and I got there this way nothing like that.
Speaker 2:Oh, I see a pyramid oh, how do they know it was mars? I didn't know. It wasn't the fucking egyptian desert, come on you see what I'm saying, but the thing is, most people okay, people will go to read it.
Speaker 2:Right, I think people with decent common sense are going to pick up on it and be like this shit doesn't prove shit, and it's funny because, again, not the shit on the guy's video, the clip we used in the podcast today, but you saw everything from the music to how he was addressing it. It's like selling you. It wants you to feel creeped out. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:It wants you to feel kind of like as you watch the video like you know, and then, as as you're now, he has your attention and he has you like, oh, your vibe is like fucked up because of the music and all that. Then he's gonna, he's gonna sell it to you with how he reads it to you. Yeah, and it sounds creepy, it is, it is very. It was unsettling, like when he was talking about the nephilins, andilim and the fucking tall giants and shit and he started getting biblical with it.
Speaker 3:He added it, though Nephilim wasn't in the document.
Speaker 2:I don't know, he added it for context, basically, yeah.
Speaker 3:All the subjects said was tall beings, tall figures. He didn't go into detail, he didn't say Nephilim, he didn't say angels, like this guy's embellishing. Yeah he's adding shit to make it more convincing. You know I'm saying and it's yeah the thing is okay if that's. I mean, I don't know why he, or is that just his?
Speaker 2:interpretation of it it's a shitty.
Speaker 3:It's a. It's a shitty one.
Speaker 2:You know he says it's the very one as well, because, like he might as well just run off the videos that are out now you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:like there's actual that's true, because that doesn't mean aliens. They do exist, in my opinion. They fucking exist.
Speaker 1:I do believe in that shit.
Speaker 3:I just don't believe in that individual's astral projection. That's it, okay. It doesn't mean that the shit's.
Speaker 1:I don't believe that he can do that shit. That's it.
Speaker 3:I think there are definitely aliens and more intelligent beings. I definitely think that that's for sure, is a possibility. It may not be likely that we run across them, you know, like a whole civilization, but they do exist. That's what I do believe.
Speaker 2:I do too. Sorry, bro, I'm not. I'm not learning that. The laugh track wasn't for the fucking what you were saying, it was for you the fact that you were making fun of this person's astral projection. I don't believe in that shit.
Speaker 3:I know, bro, it just seems far-fetched too far-fetched he had his fucking 15 minutes of fame. You know he's like man I was taking, I had, I was studied by the cia. You know, like, like now he can, he could tell that story of course you know he can tell the shit out of that story. Man they brought me in for peaking questioning.
Speaker 2:Bro, you have no idea, I saw it. I saw it, bro, it's what I physically went through.
Speaker 3:And hey, if it's true, it's true, but what's in the box?
Speaker 2:What's in the box.
Speaker 3:It doesn't work like that, oh, okay, is that reference? You can go to a fucking whole other planet and see pyramids and shit in a different timeline, where did you get that.
Speaker 2:Brian, it's funny because you're right. Where did you get that reference? What's in the box? Is that from Seven?
Speaker 1:No, what's in the box? Have you seen Seven?
Speaker 3:Oh, with Kevin Spacey.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, he's the bad guy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I watched that shit. It was just the fucking head.
Speaker 2:The head, hey spoiler If you guys haven't seen that movie by now, you should definitely watch it. It's great. It has Brad.
Speaker 3:Pitt, morgan Freeman and the bad guy's Kevin Spacey. He knew it because it was his fucking wife, bro, he knew it.
Speaker 2:And when he was like bro, I'm telling you, I know you want to do it. He's like what's in the box, he's like envy. I envied your life and your wife. Bro, I would have lost my shit too. Imagine, okay, you just lost your wife and your unborn Her head's.
Speaker 2:Man, there's three fucked up things in this situation, right, that they cover. Not only did he murder his wife, okay, okay, her head was in that box that he mailed to them, right, and that's like working from open. It was like, oh fuck, don't, don't look in this fucking box. You know, morgan freeman, he's like fuck, whatever you do, don't look in that box. He's like what's in the box? So when you kept saying what's in the box, I kept thinking of that scene. You know, that's why we mentioned the movie guys. But anyway, good movie. Maybe we'll have an episode dedicated to psychology.
Speaker 1:That's not why I asked what's in? The box. Sorry, I know.
Speaker 2:Sorry I know, You're saying like show me then.
Speaker 3:Where's the proof? Basically, essentially yeah, yeah, because astral projection, that's a serious claim. That's a serious claim. You know what I'm saying? That's a clairvoyant ability? No for sure, and that type of claim. I'm not saying people don't have that ability, but you should be able to prove it. I agree To an extent.
Speaker 2:Especially if you're going to claim it. Hell yeah, if you're going to claim it, you should have some proof. Yeah, because there's no reason why they just dragged him in there to do the interview because they don't even have it. Doesn't make sense. I mean so. And why that? Oh, because I'm the participant. I experienced it, so take my word for it. Take my word for it. Furious. I had astral projection right now. Before the show, there was giant space monkey flying elephants outside my apartment building. Now see the way.
Speaker 3:Now, this is how you know, this is how like that shit would actually be fucking spooky, right? Yeah, is if let's say that you let's say that you did have that. I want a comical way with the video but let's say that, like you did have that ability, right, yeah. Or let's say, I had it right that look can be scary as fuck.
Speaker 3:Bro right, I see some shit right onto the wall and let say that you go back into your, into your spot, right? You ask me. Let's say I have the ability, right? You're like, hey, like what am I doing right now? I'm like, I'm like you're, you're changing channels on on the tv and you're fucking changing channels on the tv bro.
Speaker 2:so almost through time and space that's, and you're at your house, I'm at mine, right, you're able to shut your eyes and literally see what, or even keep them open, right, well the Well, the Muslim clothes are right, I'd imagine. I mean close to to kind of just shut off distractions. Now you're able to see it astral, you know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1:So I'd imagine you shut your eyes, you travel.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 3:You shut your eyes and you're able to somehow put a headgear on the person that's claiming to experience this and just have it projected on a blank wall, it'll make more sense and would have more tangible, right evidence right in front of your face too, because you're telling me that you're seeing tall beings, or like that.
Speaker 2:I can look, I can tell you tomorrow that I've I'm seeing tall beings in that projection on the wall driving home or some shit all right on the way home from here from the podcast like aj I drove home at fucking one in the morning yesterday bro and hanging on the freaking light pole I'll tell you, man, I actually saw some shit. I couldn't explain before, though, but I'm gonna save that for the next segment, okay no yeah I'm gonna tell you and I no, you ever seen some shit in the sky and you're completely sober.
Speaker 2:That's what happened to me because, I promise you, bro, I was driving home, I had dropped my brother off. I'll tell you the rest of the story when we get to the second topic. But what I saw in the sky, I was sober and I even looked around like I had to. I had to question myself for a second, bro, you know you're not tired. I was awake enough to know it was a drone. Okay, bro, it might have been. Ashley was moving fast, bro, almost like a comet.
Speaker 3:It was bright green, so I'll get back into it. I've definitely seen like shooting stars.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've seen that, and it could have been that for all I know. It could have been a comet, but, bro, it looked like green. Nah, I gotta save this. I'll tell you later I'm sorry, I keep keep teasing it.
Speaker 3:Look, stick around, you hear me talk about it then and then I'm not saying that, that that that stuff doesn't exist's just in this case, the methodology of this person, this individual getting to that from point A to point B. It doesn't add up to me. That makes sense Plus it doesn't even explain how he got there. Yeah, the experiment was not done thoroughly enough in my opinion. Someone else might argue different, but I just don't think For it to be even factual.
Speaker 2:yeah. It's like that's a redo but, but, but furious, because it was in an official file cabinet at the fbi. That's credible enough. Yeah, that's what they're saying, though that's the argument, but that's the argument is that you know but that's how people get, they get fooled.
Speaker 3:Okay, like, like let's say and then okay, no, I'm gonna have one more question for you, but go ahead, right. Like let's say, like, if the cia, right, there's a, there's a document that the vatican fucking that, the vatican has a document about I don't know, let's say possession or some shit right, okay if they look at the case, they'd have to. There would still have to be proof of the yeah if the document just is just a vague document saying, claiming this and claiming that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just because it's the Vatican does not mean it's still people running this shit. Right Facts.
Speaker 2:Just because it's the.
Speaker 3:Vatican does not mean doesn't give it any extra credibility.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 3:It doesn't no. You know, what I'm saying. So that's where it would be different if there's proof about, oh, certain events and things like that and there's documents like, oh shit, like that's crazy. Yeah, I agree, you know. Like if they documented like, oh, the person was able to recall past events from individual A and B's life into perfect accuracy, Okay, Something to fucking be worried about. Yeah, you know. Again tangible behind it, yeah right it's not necessarily tangible, but it's, it's been, it's been witnessed, it's been actually well, that makes it tangible, you don't?
Speaker 3:think so it's. I mean, you don't have to believe a testimony, but the fact that it's documented and it's corroborated by other people, that backs it up, you know I think no, yeah, for sure I guess in a way it does make it tangible because you can go to the event that's what I'm saying you can.
Speaker 2:That's my argument for it being tangible. Yeah, yeah, because it's it eyewitness, right, let's be honest eyewitness account. My last question for you before we were finished with this topic officially right, anything else you want to say about it first? That's for prediction. No, I think we pretty much thoroughly covered it right, yeah and our thoughts on it. Uh, my last question to you, though quick furious, before we do go on to the next topic.
Speaker 2:Do you believe it? The second, the last part of what that guy was talking about in that clip? Do you believe we always live in a simulation? This is a simulation right now, like right now, there's rain that we're hearing outside hitting the top of the roof look, we can't see it, but we can hear, it right, okay is that to just further convince?
Speaker 2:you right that this is reality. But if you go outside, look right now, supposed to be outside that garage door it's just white. There's nothing out there right until I open, until I take the garage and open the garage door right and see the rain physically, see with my eyes.
Speaker 3:Now, now it it um buffered into existence no, that's just, that's part of the simulation, that's just your perception. I'll say because the thing is when people say that's how they describe it when people, just when people are saying simulation, they're thinking about, they're thinking about computer, they're thinking about programming about you're in a digital type of thing, you know that's usually what it is like. Let's just say, and for all intents and purposes, let's say it is a simulation of some sort right for for a fucking life, right you don't believe.
Speaker 3:We live in one, though, just for a life I'm not in a program I'm not in a computer not like a matrix now, okay, if the technology, if we're really in the fucking distant future right now, living in this through a fucking tube or whatever the fuck, okay, maybe that's possible, right when we're gonna never like the matrix, but we'll never know that, we'll never know that right until someone gets out of this shit and and frees other people, right?
Speaker 3:like, like the Matrix, right, but until then, it's just a fucking theory, there's no fucking proof behind it, right? But to double down on that is like even us being in this flesh, right, if this is real, right, this is still a simulation of life, right? Right, this is still life itself, which is, it can be a simulation of some story. It's just not a digital one. Okay, it's a simulation with real consequences, right, life and death, Like you know what I'm saying, like you're here and you're gone, like it's just one of those. Like it's a real simulation. It's real. It's not like you can. Just someone's up there, you know typing, maybe, maybe it is. Maybe it is a machine, maybe it is, maybe, maybe it is, maybe it is a machine, maybe it is a sentinel or whatever like that. Or it's an AI program.
Speaker 2:Who knows Sentient being or sentient programming, whatever AI.
Speaker 3:You will never know until you discover that other side. You're never going to know. Until then, it's all theory. I would do it though. Someone like Morpheus came to me and said you want to take the blue pill or the red pill and go down the rabbit hole oh yeah, take the red, but but, like, but in in reality, if someone offers you a blue, blue or fucking red pill, you're gonna wake up in a bedroom, or you're gonna, or you're not gonna wake up at all that's true too.
Speaker 2:If you're really gonna take a pill or not that's what I'm saying from a fucking, you can take the red pill and just fucking die.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. What if it's fucking laced with cyanide or some shit? Yeah, like this was really trying to just kill you.
Speaker 2:It's a random person like take the red pill and go down the rabbit hole.
Speaker 3:Yeah right, you need this last thing you do like like bro selling your liver and shit in the black market, like that. Shit is very it's very like unlikely, right, but yeah, no for sure, but I don't, it's just nah, man like matrix was a good movie it was a good movie it sparked. It sparked people's imagination and just made us think outside the box about where we are.
Speaker 2:It was definitely ahead of its time. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:I think it was ahead of its time, but at the same time, an idea can also run amok and create unnecessary conflict. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's true. Unnecessary fear, unnecessary paranoia, unnecessary things that are going to affect your life, like, let's say, someone watched the Matrix, right, and really believed there was a simulation. After that, like they're going to go crazy now. Like fuck, deja Vu, that was a glitch.
Speaker 3:This is all fucking Hollywood bro.
Speaker 2:It is creative as fuck. Creative idea ahead of people, it resonates. But because people have already thought of simulation theory before the matrix, I'm sure yeah, right, so that's just further. I'm not the only one who believes this shit, you know. I mean, that's a certain and it's a hollywood movie someone. And of course there's people pushing the issue or pushing the idea there's always gonna, there's always, you're always gonna have that you know.
Speaker 3:But and just if it is true, it is true, but it's like you wouldn't, you would just never know and people just got to be content with like bro you're alive like just because, focusing on that, bro, it'll be different if someone had evidence for it or they. They caught a glimpse, like hold up, like what the fuck was that, and they're able to, you know, capture that moment, or like measure that moment and then go ahead and actually really, really, yeah, it's different.
Speaker 3:It's different if you find. If you find, uh, if you walk in on, if you walk in on somebody freaking um, talking to a freaking program in the computer, talking about some crazy shit, a lot about some shit that you're like, what the fuck does that mean? You know, like yeah, it's just different like no, it is you're just never gonna fucking know, you're not.
Speaker 2:You're not gonna fucking know, bro. And and you know what's crazy now, that you're not gonna know until you know. I guess, to say it like that, either you're not that or you're never gonna know like you'll die.
Speaker 2:You quote unquote die in the matrix or die in the simulation right and then you're just your body's gonna get discarded right they're done using you for battery, like in the matrix's version, or if it's not even being used as a battery, right say we're being used as something else all together. We don't know because, like matrix made it made sense. They said he picks up a duracell, like you're being used for this your fucking battery.
Speaker 2:Who knows if we actually be you would be be in a simulation because we're being you utilize as energy for the insentient being aliens, like in that movie. Or are we gonna? Oh, don't worry, they weren't aliens, they were ai. It was a computer, right, that was using a battery anyway. A sentient ai doing that to us.
Speaker 1:It's just kind of close to home as far as the direction we're going, but or or is it just a simulation that god created for us?
Speaker 2:but why?
Speaker 3:now I'm really going down the rabbit hole, bro. Why are people thinking simulation? Why? Why is it? Why does it even have to be that? Why does it have to be? Why can't it just be what it is like? Why does it have to be?
Speaker 2:that's a good question why does?
Speaker 3:it always have to be something. Why does it always have to be a?
Speaker 2:I don't know conspiracy and have you seen people? People are so dumb, but they'll be driving on the road you know like. Out in the far distance you'll see a mirage. That's the system having a glitter system still loading, no, you know, far off in the distance you see it looks like watery and you see the cars over in the reflection and it's not loaded yet.
Speaker 2:You know, like in a video game it's physics, right, they're trying to compare physics to a video game. Buffering, right? You know, in a video game you drive too fast into an area. In a video game, it'll load late and shit. It kind of looks like a mirage, right. It kind of resembles one. I'll give you nerds that right. A mirage kind of looks similar to when you go too quickly into an older game, right, and it would remember.
Speaker 2:You know it would, it would load right but a little late, right, you would see the road appear out of nowhere and the rest of the scenery right would buffer as soon as you drove into it. There are people online that are literally actively showing you furious you're driving, or like, look, it's literally loading as I'm driving and they're driving into a mirage. It's a little foggy, but it's like. I clearly know what's happening, the. You know the. But they're like oh no, it's the, it's the simulation, loading late because I'm driving too quickly into the area that it hasn't loaded yet, or fucking as a mirage. Bro, it's physics, like you said, bro. So, in a nutshell, it's safe to say you don't believe in simulation theory, right? I don't. I don't really think.
Speaker 3:I subscribe to it either. There's no point for me to believe in it.
Speaker 2:Yeah Me either. You don't get anything from it.
Speaker 3:Look, we definitely could be in one, but if we are in one, it's the real one. It's the real simulation, it is what it is. Call it simulation, call it life, call it whatever the fuck you? Yeah, you're not changing it, no, right? So, whether it's a simulation or not, like it is what it is like. Okay, it's a simulation. Now what?
Speaker 2:okay, you're right, okay, cool, and yeah, what are we?
Speaker 3:getting from you. Still got to pay your bills, bro.
Speaker 2:It's not changing anything in fact it's not changing shit, because the thing is see the movies, see the matrix.
Speaker 3:That's why, like, that's why you like movies should be movies. Yeah, the movies like like they have really good ideas, thought-provoking ideas, right, yeah, in the matrix the thing is you gotta separate them from reality?
Speaker 2:yeah, but in the matrix.
Speaker 3:It's like you can just become an agent or you can just become a fucking. You can just unplug, and then now you don't have to. You're gonna worry about the the world with bills and shit. You can. Just now you're on this other world, right, but you just like that it's not and I like that, bro, like that.
Speaker 3:Like there's no agents coming out to you know, capture you like. Think about how many people notice things that are wrong with the system. Like they're not, no agents are popping up trying to you know that is true.
Speaker 2:Those people are not appearing, but then again, they they're. The argument there is they're, they are appearing, you're just not paying attention or you're not seeing them. They're really good at hiding, so that's why huh, it's always something. It is always something. There's an explanation for everything, bro it's just come on bro it's conspiracy hour, right right with me on this shit.
Speaker 3:Okay, yo, it's always something, though you got a point, bro, it's just bro that just shows you, bro, that just shows you like bro, people just they have an explanation for anything.
Speaker 2:Bro, it doesn't matter how far fixed, bro, like bro you still got bills, bro.
Speaker 3:Like, I'm sorry, you still gotta pay your bills, bro, simulation or not, bro.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bro, you still simulation or not, bro? You still got bills, bro, like what the fuck you doing?
Speaker 3:if you don't pay that shit, bro you out on the street in your simulation street, in a simulated street, but hey, in simulated cold right. Where's your, where's your, where's your simulation jacket?
Speaker 2:huh either gonna be reality for you or, regardless, you're still gonna be simulated on the street so what you're in a simulation, bro, like you can't, bro. That is so true. You're right. That's hilarious, man, because that's that's what ends up being either gonna face reality you know, get a job. Fight, work like everybody else or you're gonna you're gonna until you're gonna experience that in reality, or you're gonna have it in your simulated reality, you'll be on the bum ass, motherfucker on the street until the until someone unplugs and actually frees some other people, then makes, makes the makes the breakout of the simulation of reality.
Speaker 3:It, it is what it is. Yeah, okay, shit, maybe we are on one, but what the fuck is that going to do now? It's not going to stop shit. You're right, it's not going to stop shit, man, shit.
Speaker 2:What's it going to change? It's not going to change anything. You're right, bro, that's so true. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Oh fuck, know what I mean. Oh fuck, bro, fucking movies, bro, that's shit that they put in people's head, bro, that's, that's what you gotta play by the way.
Speaker 2:Okay, now go ahead, and then we're gonna go on. I don't want to say this but there you are, say it, bro fuck it.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna say I'm gonna just allude to it. Okay, oh, come on. This is timeless talk bro you know who, who created the matrix right?
Speaker 2:no, who made?
Speaker 3:the wachowski brothers oh yeah yeah, yeah, okay, but yeah, great writers man.
Speaker 2:Where did they come up with that? I guess simulation theory on steroids, huh.
Speaker 3:I don't know, just look them up.
Speaker 2:Really.
Speaker 3:Just look them up.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 3:The Wachowski brothers. That's it.
Speaker 2:They're women now, right, didn't they get a sex change?
Speaker 3:Is that what you're telling me?
Speaker 2:It's what you don't want to talk about, right? Was that them? Damn bro. I heard about those directors, and they're fucking men. They're women, now, right, or some shit. Is this what you don't want to talk about? Is that the case? This is what you didn't want to talk about?
Speaker 3:oh, come on, bro, this is a timeless talk bro I mean I'm gonna joke with you, bro, but um no, all I'm saying, bro, is like movies put they put ideas okay, ideas take hold okay you're right, they take root okay but, I'll go ahead.
Speaker 2:Sorry, but what, but bro, did they? I know there was some, there was some, I thought it was the Hugh brothers I think one of them was it both of them, I heard supposedly? Oh, it was one of them. I think you're right. One of them became a sister, not a brother anymore. Sorry, we have nothing against people that do that shit.
Speaker 1:Alright do you?
Speaker 2:do you, should I cut it out?
Speaker 1:Should I cut it out, bro?
Speaker 2:Get canceled the brother became a sister. I'm sorry, bro, I'm going to get canceled over that shit. Probably, man, is that what you want to say online? I don't know what I heard, bro. Okay, what were you going to allude to? Then I'll allude to that. So you were alluding to that Exactly. I just converted converted. You're fucking dumb, bro. Oh shit, I knew it. See, I wasn't, and I know you were gonna butcher me for this. Uh, viewers and listeners, I honestly thought I knew it was a directorial brotherhood there, but I wasn't sure if it was the Hugh brothers or the people you just said. But now I know for sure. It is definitely the director of the Matrix, the directors plural of the Matrix. Now, do you think that them being kind of strange and off is probably why they came up with that? They're good writers.
Speaker 3:No, I don't think that's just an orientation. I don't know what happened with that?
Speaker 2:I'm just fucking around, but I just think that what's it called? Everybody has their own choice. Quick, Anything you want to add to that. I mean, that's it, bro. I don't know if you really believe in simulation theory or not. Nah, but yeah, simulation nah, I mean it.
Speaker 3:I'm saying if it's not, it's not. I'm just saying like people gotta stop taking movies so fucking seriously. Like I agree. You know, like I would say when it comes to move to like movies like 20 000 leagues under the sea, yeah, that came from a book. You know I'm saying yeah, and the book predates the actual invention. You know saying so sometimes, sometimes, like media can be a is a good thing. Yeah, like, who knows, maybe with the matrix being being created, they actually might create a digital world that people can actually plug into so there could be some reality there, you think maybe not like.
Speaker 3:I think vr is just like. It's like the tip is like the surface, barely scratching the surface me too.
Speaker 2:I don't think we'll see it in our lifetime, do you?
Speaker 3:We might see the start of it, the beginning start the stages of it, like the beginning stages, like like when people are like like hooking up to computers and like like actually like flipping through programs and shit. On this, on the, on the thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah now. Yeah, you're right, it could exist.
Speaker 3:I mean, like downloading languages and speaking it, you know oh, bro, there's even an earpiece now.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you heard about this shit, sorry. Again off topic. You get on this ride. Get on this ride with us, all right, get on this ride with timeless talk. Anyway. Another sidebar quick conversation, quick, quick little tidbit there's an earpiece now they're selling it on the tiktok shop where, if you're wearing this earpiece and someone you're speaking to you don't you don't know their language like, say, it's arabic or spanish or something like that this thing translates it into your ear. That's wild, right. So here's the person talking.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and it helps you communicate but how do you speak to them? How do you respond?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you're right, that's a good point. Is there a speaker on it? There's no. Oh, you're right, I didn't think of that shit, bro. You know what's funny? Because of the ads, bro. They're like. I can understand what you said. I can't speak it back. So I guess the way to make that work. I guess you get two ear pieces and you put this in your ear, you make them wear it you have a little sanitizer you clean it off right. It's a gimmick.
Speaker 3:It's a waste it may not be a waste because you can understand something, but that'd be helpful. There should be like a two way mechanism. But something like that will be expensive, though. Yeah, hell, yeah, it'll be expensive. It's just because of the technology involved, and not only that, it's going to have to have a very good battery life, right, it's going to have to have enough, enough projection to for the person to hear you, for the you know saying, for the person to hear you say it yeah, no, I agree the the device itself is going to have to have the ai to translate, to translate your, your english or whatever language into the language that you're speaking to them.
Speaker 3:In gonna have to, it's gonna have to detect their language, right? Yeah, and do that whole swap, that whole shit and understand it and be able to translate it to you in the in the language you do it within
Speaker 2:that split second, because what if you're the indian or the arabic or the hispanic? That needs to hear it in spanish or in arabic or whatever, and you have to have you able to set that feature, like you said and what and what if?
Speaker 3:what if? Denser languages require more, more ram, more, more power? You know saying point and what? If the thing's gonna have to be fast, it's gonna have to be prompt, right, you can't just wait fucking 50 seconds. Like you know, say hola como estas. You know what I mean. Like it's not going to I do.
Speaker 2:You need another beer, bro, you good yeah, I got you.
Speaker 3:It's like something like that. It's gonna be expensive, they, they can make it though no, for sure. No, it can't be be, but that shit is expensive.
Speaker 2:To have it do away, like you said, because something like that, bro.
Speaker 3:It's going to be like an Apple phone, bro.
Speaker 2:It would be.
Speaker 3:It would be like a fucking. It would be called the lingo, the lingo.
Speaker 2:That little cheesy-ass advertisement to go along with it. Have a problem understanding your clerk. Get lingo, come again it's like how are you doing?
Speaker 2:it's like, yes, that works great. Sounds fucking awful or annoying these nowadays, bro, they'll have it, you know. You know it was speechify or whatever that shit is. Here's that new app. It's called speechify, bro. You can literally change your voice into sounding like snoop, dogg, drake, any of these, any. Uh, fucking kendrick lamar j cole. I swear, bro, and it's a good ass. It's a real app. Makes you sound just like those, those fucking people, bro, can prank call people with it. That's fucked up.
Speaker 2:It is fucked up because it's kind of scary, like that's kind of where we're moving now, right, but imagine, bro, I I feel like and there's also an audio book how do you want to sound like drink exactly right now, especially right now? I don't think anybody wants to sound like him, bro, congratulations, you played yourself. If you do that shit. Oh yeah, you did, but bro it, you know so. But there's also an audio book, one where you can have Snoop Dogg read you the Bible In the beginning.
Speaker 2:That's just to make you laugh, bro.
Speaker 3:That's just to make you laugh. It's not being serious.
Speaker 2:It is. Yeah, bro, but that does exist, though there's a Snoop Dogg voice. On the first day there was light. He's like let there be light.
Speaker 1:he said exactly bro you low-key sound like him, oh shit that was good.
Speaker 2:That was good, bro. No, but yeah, like dead ass. That's that's what, that? That shit actually exists, right? So that technology is already that direction, man. Ai is crazy man. There's a shit to do with ai is wild, crazy man, you man you know. But um, yeah, man, that's all for that topic, but we'll go ahead and move into now to your second topic. We'll get furious. Which you got for us tonight, man and uh.
Speaker 3:I'll pass you the mic man.
Speaker 2:You were talking about the uh, you said the UFO. As ufos, they are now identified as what? Now furious? Uavs, uavs and the second topic of uaps, the second topic of a timeless talk. This evening, on episode nine, season five, we're going to discuss this meeting that took place where now furious, I'll give it to you now it was uh, the house and the house was holding a hearing on UFOs.
Speaker 3:for government transparency. It's real, official guys and basically in this video they're talking about accounts of pilots seeing objects flying in the sky. While they're flying, Pilots of various these are real accounts that were documented, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, documented, not like on the air, like on the radio, everything like real time, just recording and everything. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, but it's just been classified.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. But they there's all kinds of like. There's people going up and giving like and there's visuals too. On this one. I'm not sure if there's visuals in this meeting. People are going up. You know corroborating accounts, you know from certain events and all that and it's just pretty. I want to say that it's. It's not unsettling, it's just, it's um relieving.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying Like they're acknowledging that this shit does exist. You know what I'm saying? People have been saying it for a long time and a lot of them were were thought to be quacks, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like what's his name? I forgot his name, the dude. Ah, older guy, right, bob Lazar. Okay, batful, the fool that worked at the radio, like 51.
Speaker 3:He was saying this shit for years, you know, about the stuff that he's seen, people were just calling him a quack, whatever like that. Some people still think that he's full of shit, right. But he was one of the first whistleblowers on, like you know, extraterrestrial shit, right. So with this stuff coming out with government officials, I'm pretty sure he feels so fucking like relieved. You know, I'm saying like he's like fuck, like y'all give me shit for 30 years. Yeah, I'm saying, and now, now that is these people are saying, and now it's like it has validity. Yeah, you know, I'm saying, and that's scary man, you know what I'm saying. And now, now that it's these people, are saying and now it's like it has validity.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's scary man. You know, in the household people are actually like you're the first part of the video. This is to address unidentified flying objects. Blah, blah, blah yeah like bro, that's a bro, that's a real. That's not AI, that's some real shit on cbs too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, that's crazy, as you know, so I think the link that you sent me, yeah you know, and I, I think that this shit, I think this, that this shit's real the universe is just too fucking big, I agree it's too big. And for us to be on this little specker right here, bro, what are the chances? Bro? There has got to be something no, I agree, I agree it's just the universe is too massive there's probably a great distance between it you know, but it's there.
Speaker 3:It might be on the fucking edge of the universe. That's at the start of another fucking universe, right? Who the fuck knows?
Speaker 2:But you know the fucking shit's there you know, plus with the shit that we have within our own planet. You know what? It's crazy because, you're right, we don't even know the ocean, for example. Yeah, we talk about space being the final frontier, which it is, but the oceans below us, man, they don't even like. We haven't even gone to the full depth the ocean even has. Right, we haven't explored, we've only explored what 2%, 3% of the ocean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, when it comes to like-.
Speaker 2:I don't know what the fuck is down there, bro, it's too big, it's too big and it's too much.
Speaker 3:At that depth it's dark as shit.
Speaker 2:You're not going to see shit down there anyway.
Speaker 3:I just don't think they don't have the manpower to just send thousands upon thousands in just every section to just do a fucking sweep. There's no way You're going to find something. You know what I'm saying. You like. There's no way, you know, you're gonna find something.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying it's too big bro. Let me not to get off topic again. But the leviathan bro, the bible talks about that big ass sea creature in the ocean bro there's definitely big sea creatures, for sure like the way the bible describes it. You'll probably come across that.
Speaker 3:I think that the Leviathan it did have a time for sure, during the time of the dinosaurs, there was definitely an ocean-dwelling Leviathan-esque animal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:That was definitely.
Speaker 2:Or like that one swimming dinosaur with the big-ass fucking mouth. What?
Speaker 3:is it called?
Speaker 2:again. I forgot what it's called the actual name of it. That was around Leviathan was probably even bigger than that motherfucker. That motherfucker was huge dude.
Speaker 3:But Leviathan is like that's for, like Revelations, that's different, that's more of like a world ending type of thing. So if he appears, fuck, I feel like I'm probably going to come out of space or some shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:You come in and you destroy the planet and shit.
Speaker 3:No, you're saying, let's say, like animals, like like the loch ness monster, right, like shit, like that, that shit could, could, fucking exist. You know what I'm saying? That shit really. Who knows, bro, like they might in the loch ness.
Speaker 2:That's a lake, though, right huh, loch ness is a lake, that's a lake, but lakes are are connected to larger bodies of water that's true, you know.
Speaker 3:So, um, it could be, as, who knows, that there might be a species of very large fucking serpentine type of, or serpent, like you know, snakes or animals that just have. They're just small in number, you know, they're just because they're so fucking big, you know, they probably live fucking hella long. Who the fuck knows, you know? But we, like you said, we've only discovered like five percent. You know. They probably live fucking hell along. Who the fuck knows, you know? But we, like you said, we've only discovered like five percent, you know. And they're finding new, new species all the time.
Speaker 3:Wow, man, you know all the time something like that different levels of the ocean too yeah, but even and uh all right, it's crazy yeah, but you know, the ufos and all that stuff, like it's just, it's now what I think that you do, now that they've actually publicly acknowledged it finally start a fucking, uh, a fucking institution for this shit like, where you have people who are actually going out, you know, like astronauts. Okay, we're gonna go over here to where we saw this last distress signal or some shit like bro who knows what the fuck. They're fucking hearing you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:We don't know man who knows they should actually maybe actually get some joint effort into actually discovering something like no, I agree bring seti. You know, make it, make it an actual thing. You know, don't have it all this like secret shit, like no, for sure I agree it makes it sus, bro, but go ahead, you want to? Yeah, but like, yeah, it makes it like. Why not like you just?
Speaker 2:be open about the shit, and that's the thing. That's the point of the hearing was right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Was to finally be open with the public and let them know. Hey, this is what we've found, this is what we've been studying. So, since we can't obviously put on the two-hour hearing for you guys to watch, we'll put the link in the description, actually, so you guys can go watch that if you want, but it's two hours long, right, furious.
Speaker 1:I watched it hours long, right, furious. I watched for a few, for a few minutes, and I believe it's two hours long?
Speaker 2:obviously we can't stream late for you guys right here. I recommend you go watch it after the episode. Go check it out 20 minutes. I'll put the link in there to cbs off the cbs's official youtube channel.
Speaker 2:It's very uh, but thought-provoking though it is so I want to ask you that, at least to my next question. It is thought-provoking. What in there essentially made your hair stand up when you were reading it? Like, oh fuck, what gave you goosebumps? Like what made you think, damn, that shit has some credible, tangible evidence to go along with it, bro. So is there anything in there in that hearing that you that brought you to mind the goosebumps.
Speaker 3:for me, was just that. The fact that everyone's in the room, yeah, that's the goosebumps.
Speaker 2:That is scary. So there's like a real sense of urgency here. It's real exactly for everybody to be discussing.
Speaker 3:It's fucking real damn like it's not like everyone's showing up for this fucking meeting you know, saying there's, there's some, there's something about it, that's real yeah, I'm saying that doesn't mean that there aren't any more, that there aren't hoaxes.
Speaker 2:So of course. So do you think the meeting was meant for? A couple things like obviously, obviously to address the public, right, let them know what we've come across in the US government, right, and share those secrets or share those classified documents with the people. Finally, was it just solely for that, or was it to come up with a contingency plan for something further, like you said? Like, hey, we all know this shit exists, even though, then again, I kind of know it can't be that. Never mind, because it all know this shit exists, even though then again, I kind of know it can't be that never mind, because it can't be that.
Speaker 2:Because they didn't, they didn't talk about an issue, right, that everybody was dealing with. Right, there was no issue discussed, right, like hey, there are these beings that we came across, they came down, and that would be different, that would be even more scary, right? Because now you're like fuck, we got the country coming together, the other other countries right of the world, the, the the nations of the world coming together to talk about it.
Speaker 3:That's different that's even more scary. That would be totally different. It's like, oh like, tell them what the being said. Oh, war, or some shit. That would be, bro. That would be front page fucking news everybody, every country would have that you couldn't ignore that shit if something like that got out.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't doubt that they put that creepy ass fucking alert, fucking emergency system pop up on the screen.
Speaker 3:It probably wouldn't even work, bro. That would be crazy.
Speaker 2:Bro, imagine, and then they translate it into you. Hear weird alien language, yeah. And then it gets translated into humans.
Speaker 3:Bow or die. This is where the Futurama.
Speaker 2:Shit comes out of me, man, but you know. So, that being said, bro, like what? The fact that everybody was there, right, that's what made you back to what you were saying.
Speaker 3:That's what kind of more? Like I'm like holy shit. Like it's not just a podcast, like it's like it's government officials.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not just two guys shooting the breeze talking about right Government officials. Like you know the person this is actually. The officials are here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, bro, they all got their fucking notes and their papers and all that shit.
Speaker 2:No, yeah. So if I could and they're looking at it like bro, I got my shit right here, look so is there anything that was said during that meeting?
Speaker 2:Did you watch the whole thing? Not the whole thing. I'll probably watch the whole thing while I'm folding laundry tomorrow. I'm gonna check it out. But, um, my question, bro, is that is from what you did watch to further my question. Right, you already answered part of it, you did, but the second part of my question is was there, was there anything in particular that you could share with us from the hearing that you heard that?
Speaker 2:was like hey, man, this is one thing that they brought up, that they claim someone saw or documented they saw that made you really feel like, oh shit, that's creepy as fuck top of my head.
Speaker 3:But um, they do mention, like they, that the unidentified flying object ash is real.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is something and then they show the evidence. It's not. Did they show the evidence on there? Flying it like it's a huh did they just disclose anything, or is it all just spoken word?
Speaker 3:It's all documents and all that shit they're going off of like.
Speaker 1:They're reading it though, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, obviously, I don't think they're saying everything.
Speaker 2:No, you know they're not, and I don't think they are either.
Speaker 3:When they save a whole pro they Something. There's something out there. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:No doubt.
Speaker 3:That's the reality about it, you know.
Speaker 2:Do you think that Hollywood's on to anything, or they're just?
Speaker 3:No, I think they're. You know, they have an idea, you know, but the way that they created, obviously they add elements, you know.
Speaker 2:Of course, to make it more spooky or exciting yeah.
Speaker 3:You know there's no who knows.
Speaker 2:It could be totally different from what they depict I think it'd be cool to travel the stars, bro. Like I would love to go to space, like I love that sci-fi, that in the inner explorer of me, right, would love to get on a spaceship and fly through the stars, bro. It just sounds amazing to me, it sounds badass, you know. But the only problem with that is that I noticed that with space travel, time gets really fucked up because it's relevant up there, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but I would say my, that's the thing that scares me about it.
Speaker 2:I would never want to do it. Just for that reason, if I come, I won't come back. All my loved ones will either be dead or old as fuck, but I might come back back home. You know, I feel you. If you want interstellar, an interstellar mission or something you know through the stars, yeah, my my main concern traveling through space.
Speaker 3:I look at, I look at space travel like a fucking, like a fucking plane flight yeah that bro anything that was it.
Speaker 2:They're gonna have to go down. You're, you're fucked.
Speaker 3:That's true ain't no airbag up there bro no, you are.
Speaker 2:And what I like about, uh, movies like interstellar, right, this's another example. Yeah, what's crazy about that shit to me, bro, is that it's they try to make, they try to base it off of. That's why I respect about christopher nolan. He wanted it to be as realistic as possible. Obviously it's cinema. They're gonna add their he even said it. Of course, we're gonna add our fucking you know two cents to it to make it more, you know, like entertaining. But a majority of that movie is based on reality, right? So the relative to time and shit, like even to when they're leaving earth, the fact that they're rotating that's what people throw up and shit on space shuttles supposedly Right, because the way that they travel is not, is not normal with how you travel on this planet, right? So when it's flying away from earth, it's not just going in a straight line away from Earth, is not just going in a straight line. That fucker's like moving.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it has to. You know what I mean. Why is that? Do you know what that is? It has to go with the. I think maybe with the spin of the Earth. Don't quote me on this.
Speaker 2:I might sound stupid as fuck right now to some fucking science, because remember Interstellar when the Earth's getting further and further away from them they're rotating.
Speaker 3:It's called you got to so it can get out of the gravitational pull. Ah, Because, yeah, because so that.
Speaker 1:Is that?
Speaker 3:why it's rotating. That's what the rocket's for. That's what the I think the rotation might be for the slingshot. Because it's, it's something it has something to the atmosphere. That's what that big tank's for. All that fuel's just to get it out of the atmosphere. Just to get it the fuck out of the atmosphere To where the space shuttle can actually take itself. The rocket fuel is just to punch out. It's because you're fighting against gravity.
Speaker 1:Crazy. Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:That's just complicated man. Space flight is actually risky bro.
Speaker 2:It's fuck Because they can go wrong, you could die. You're done, you're fucking done, you're done. You're done.
Speaker 3:There is no hospital up there, bro. There's nothing. No, there isn't.
Speaker 2:You know, neil deGrasse Tyson.
Speaker 3:And.
Speaker 2:I'm going to paraphrase this. I think I forgot what he said his reasoning would be. And I'm gonna paraphrase this I mean, I think I forgot what he said his reasoning would be. But he said, if he got to a grand old age where he couldn't his, his facilities weren't working anymore, couldn't wipe his own ass and couldn't take care of himself essentially right. He said he wanted to just be launched into a fucking black hole. It's forget it. But he's like I think that'd be a crazy way to die, to go out. He's like, but I would, I would run. It was kind of unselfish.
Speaker 2:What he said option I like no, but I like what he said. This part was this next part's kind of cool because it's like, even though I'm going, I want to leave you guys with some data. So if you can launch me into that bitch with some device that will record back to you guys what I'm experiencing, because at the end of the day, no one knows what happens inside of a black hole. And obviously they have theories, right, and they know that the scientific understanding of it explains that it just compacts you, right, that a black hole supposedly just closes you in tight until you're nothing, right, squeezes you down to the smallest atom right Is what I've heard supposedly to where there's no light. So you get destroyed in the process, or it could be a fucking wormhole bro Dimension. You go into a whole other world.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So what signal would you get back if your shit's?
Speaker 2:getting crushed. That's what I'm saying and that's the part. And if that was true, you wouldn't have to sacrifice yourself. Why don't we just launch a fucking drone into? A fucking black hole and record that. But you have to get close to a black hole, first the pressure yeah, and I heard the pressure of it.
Speaker 2:Whoever gets close to them gets sucked in, and then, in theory, you get crushed. What if you didn't get crushed at all, though? Do you think there's a chance for you, so you can go through it and you end up somewhere else Not dead?
Speaker 3:I mean, you end up somewhere else. It's possible.
Speaker 2:But I don't either. Supposedly it's you get crushed, it's pressure and I guess that with scientific understanding and studying.
Speaker 3:That's how they know, bro, you probably wouldn't even feel the shit yeah, you probably wouldn't realize you got killed it'd be so quick, probably, but I think also is like it's yeah, that shit just sounds scary, bro. It does a black hole.
Speaker 2:You can't even see this shit it's just a fucking void and that's how interstellar ends that way. That foot goes right into it, but that's the spinoff of the movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm pretty sure that they're also entertaining ideas that were that that scientists have actually, you know, tried to introduce, you know, with the black holes and the wormholes and all that stuff yeah, but at the end of the day, it's a movie, bro. You know, there's no telling, bro, a black hole could be a fucking, just a fucking garbage disposal. It could be that. Yeah, doesn that Just because the movie, it's a good movie. I would hope it's a fucking wormhole.
Speaker 2:That'd be badass. I don't mean it's got to be a wormhole, Like what the fuck.
Speaker 3:Interstellar, no Interstellar man, it's like no.
Speaker 2:Interstellar told me this I gotta believe this reality. You go to it and you're like, oh, what's happening to me? Yeah, bro. You're going to be like, oh, what's happening to me, yeah, bro. But I mean essentially, though Interstellar did, since we're on the topic of that and we'll be done with it after this when you go into the worm, when you go into the black hole right in that movie, the ship gets destroyed around him to the point where it's just him floating. At first it was just him. He's like fuck, you know, recording, you can't see shit. It's obviously black as fuck.
Speaker 2:You just see the the ship getting destroyed around him to the point where the ship's gone. The data and now the pressure exactly, but then instead of it is weird, because then it goes from him being you know he doesn't get destroyed.
Speaker 2:He's waiting to die. Now, at this point, he's like, well, I'm gonna die. My whole ship got destroyed around me. Now I'm just floating with no, you know, I I mean no vessel around me into this void. Fuck it, here I get, I'm gonna get crushed right now as I speak. Who knows, all my consciousness is gonna last to this point? No, he ends up. It's a wormhole. You've seen the movie? He ends up in a fucking floating library somewhere else on the planet. A wormhole, outside of a time. It's a movie. Yep, you're right, because the suit's not him. You know his suit could have got destroyed up. But then they're like, oh no, it's unbelievable. We can't have him floating in space now with the suit. Without a suit, how's he gonna breathe?
Speaker 3:breathe no, he should be dead.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly, but he survived. Interstellar, bro, fuck it. That's all I need to believe. All right, interstellar has all the answers. Okay, no, bro, I'm going to get Launch me into a black hole when I'm 80, all right With theater, bro.
Speaker 3:When I'm 95 or even 100, God willing.
Speaker 2:I make it to 100, shoot me into a black hole, bro. Just kidding Black hole.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's pretty intense. You have to be a fucking trillionaire for that shit, bro. Just to buy the ticket up there, bro, just to go. You have to build a rocket to get you there, just to take a one-way trip, you still have to pay a shit ton of fuck, ton of money bro. They're fucking just yeah, hell, no, bro. You were saying though Sorry, that's like, that's like Prometheus bro.
Speaker 2:You know, I never watched that movie bro. It was good, yeah, I know I need to watch it. I know the disbelief and the dissatisfaction with my answer. I'm sorry, bro. You haven't watched that shit yet. You gotta watch it, man. I'm probably gonna watch it tonight. I don't really get it, bro. You're gonna watch that shit tonight? I don't know, I'm probably gonna go to sleep.
Speaker 3:I'll probably watch it tonight. You know what?
Speaker 2:I'll do bro. I'm gonna watch it tonight. I'll watch the inside of my eyelids astral projection bro, it seemed like.
Speaker 3:It seemed like a good movie, but I fell asleep 10 minutes into starting that shit.
Speaker 2:It's all bad, bro. No, no, I'm not gonna watch it tonight, but anyway, man, I mean anything else you want to add to that, bro? Because I mean, I mean shit. Just it's pretty straightforward I mean.
Speaker 3:The thing is, it's like the government. I think the government thought that people would just go crazy knowing the aliens existed, but it's like no one's going crazy. Yeah, should have just fucking been real from the fucking start you know what's crazy.
Speaker 2:You say that it's funny when I when I watched a little bit right, I need to go watch it again more in depth, like we talked about right tomorrow when I did watch a few minutes of what you sent me, I was just kind of like you see how calm everybody is, there's like no urgency there. And the guy's reading it as if he was in court reading someone's fucking rights to him, you know we're here to talk about uavs, I'm like bro. No one else is like yo.
Speaker 2:We're actually gonna talk about this guy, things that are going you know, yeah, there's no like so that's man aerial projections they seem so common like oh, this ain't shit, it's a regular tuesday for us, bro. Yeah you know. I wonder why that that is. Maybe it's because they have the information already.
Speaker 3:Probably they're past the shock value because they've known it for so long they're also like professional too. You know they're not gonna be all emotional and freak out and have type of you know yeah that makes sense.
Speaker 2:be animated for what you? You're going to make the crowd unsettled and then everybody's going to be oh my God, what should we worry about? Like you know, should we worry about this? You know there's mass hysteria, bro, yep.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it's not going to happen like this, because people already have an idea that is fucking going on.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 3:Like hysteria would only be if, like someone intercepted, like oh, they're going to fire a fucking bomb at us.
Speaker 1:Or like fucking War of the.
Speaker 3:Worlds, bro. That's intense If that were to happen. If that were to happen Like that, there's no more man hysteria, we're fucked, we're done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there is no hysteria, I think you're just dead. Okay, so hold on.
Speaker 3:What would you rather have? What's up World War Z, aliens? Oh shit, my bad, fuck, I'm tipsy.
Speaker 2:World War Z zombies yeah, okay. Or World of the World aliens Damn, that's tough bro. They're both bad. There's no good scenario there. They're both pretty shitty situations. What?
Speaker 3:would you have to? Have though, huh, what would you have?
Speaker 2:to have Maybe the zombies, just because we know how to kill them. You know what I mean the aliens. We don't know how to kill them. They don't figure it out until later. Right, I mean we got to find his weakness.
Speaker 3:At least you know what a zombie bro. That's true, You're fucked.
Speaker 2:No, you're right.
Speaker 3:At least you're an alien bro, you're right, at least with the aliens. I'm not fighting a human, I'm just fighting an alien. That's facts. World War Z was fuck that Hell. No, that's true.
Speaker 2:No, bro, or Z, and they're running too. But the reason why that shit's too fake to me is just because, bro, they're not going to run like that, they're fucking dead. So, even if I get it, they're alive because they're living dead, but they're decomposing. There's no way those joints and those muscles and that fucking body is going to work the way it's supposed to without us dead, logically, right.
Speaker 3:But like, let's say right, that there was a virus, right, that could keep the tissues operatable, right, okay, or operational to an extent that they that that individual has to chase down prey right, it keeps them alive just to that extent. Right, sust sustained enough to have strength, right, virus keeps it alive, right, yeah. And it also gives these infected individuals the keen awareness of where to go and who to attack, right, it expends all the energy towards that, right. I don't see them just running non-stop forever, though, right I see them at least getting like fatigued.
Speaker 3:Yeah, right that. I think they should have had that, because they just made it seem like they just had unlimited energy, like they're just fucking on 10 at all hours. You know what I'm saying? It's like they're they're using energy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they should be getting I agree they should be slowing down, not necessarily they don't not necessarily like getting tired, but like they don't have the energy no, they don't.
Speaker 2:But you're right and it. But where's it coming from? How is it even you know saying that's plow hole now?
Speaker 3:that's from them eating oh, I don't know. I'll say the energy come would come from that, because they would have to have energy, but you don't.
Speaker 2:That's what but that's what I like about the walking dead. It was realistic, like, think about it, like as the show went on, the more decomposed I think it was boring though walking you got to give it a chance, though. Here's what I gotta say to that, though, what I liked about it, what I could appreciate about it.
Speaker 2:Oh, give it a chance. No, no, but just hear it, okay, sorry, what I meant to say was hear what I gotta say. Right, what I like about it is how realistic it was. You say you might say it's boring and, let's be honest, at least the actual sequences were believable, like I think, in a real world like that, if the zombies were a real thing, that was a nail on the head in my opinion. That was that. That, to me, is how how it would be if it did happen you know, I'm saying realistically, like that, and they're not running what do you mean?
Speaker 3:well, why would it be like that? And then they're not running after you because that, okay, I like that.
Speaker 2:They don't run, they just run up in there and then big groups, they break shit down right. We're Remember, like in the Walking Dead, remember I don't know if you watched it at all in the first season a big ass herd of them would be enough to take down a wall or a window or whatever. That makes sense to me because Were they running or walking? They were walking, think about it, because they're dead creature is gonna run after you bro dead.
Speaker 3:How is it walking?
Speaker 2:okay, but my point is, because it's this is sick, okay, so look so it's not.
Speaker 1:No, no, let me explain. It's dead, it's dead, you know you're. So no, but okay, the point.
Speaker 2:The point I'm getting at you, excuse me, the individual is dead. Okay, the point I get that the individual is dead but the organism is alive. The point I'm getting at them. Yes, the organism is alive, but the the okay. So, even though the brain function came back, like they try to explain this shit in season one of the walking dead, right, his physical physicality isn't entirely there. The brain function is there to make him move and shit, and then they just they have to stay alive or they get hungry, like you said, so they'll eat for that energy to even move. But I mean, you'll notice in the show the ones that didn't get a chance to eat anybody, the slowest moving zombies, they're just like they're barely, they're still there and if you get close enough they go, you know, very slowly try to bite you. I just thought that's really that's paying attention to detail.
Speaker 3:That fucker didn't get to any food, tell they should that fucker didn't get any food, so he's damn near on the brink of being. That makes sense, you know, because he's out of energy, but they should make it where the healthy ones run after you. Yeah, why are they walking?
Speaker 2:they walk, they run, they, they, they speed walk. The thing is they speed walk about this.
Speaker 3:The walking dead, right dead is just a figure of speech. Yeah, they look dead.
Speaker 2:I just feel like if they're running after you, bro, then they're not dead. That's a sentient, that's not even a person. That yeah.
Speaker 1:It can perceive you.
Speaker 2:No, but you make a good point. If you're freshly dead, your muscles are all still there, right? If you're freshly bit you just turned, you should be able to run climb jump, like you said.
Speaker 3:That's true, the only thing that's dead about that's a good point a zombie is the personality that made a human. Yeah, that person's gone, the thing that came back yeah no, but but no, do you agree, though?
Speaker 2:muscle and it's, it's rotting tissue no, but but the fact that.
Speaker 1:But if it's fresh.
Speaker 2:Fresh, like you said, just bit, just the old guy, just you know. You just checked out and your body came back now as this creature. It should be, like you said, fully usable.
Speaker 3:I agree, because muscles are still there, yeah, if it's been like months and shit. No, that shit's fucking wearing down. Yeah. But like freshly turned over or turned or whatever, yeah like World War Z, they were all fresh. That was a fresh fucking pandemic.
Speaker 2:And that's why they all ran like that. That's true, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:But what I'm saying is that, like it was realistic in a sense, not with them like becoming ants and shit and climbing the fucking towers and doing all that bullshit, you know, but with them running to an extent that was like okay, like I could see like the running part, but I that not getting tired, that's, that was the part I'm like that's just, they're not fucking track stars and she just, you know, because, think about it, they still have hearts, right, they still have circuit to have the muscles move, circulatory system like it's. That stuff still has to work, still present. So if they're just over expanding the shit, you're going to be seeing heart attacks Like you're going to be seeing shit, just right, logically probably if they're just going just running non-stop, non-stop.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure they'll go for a little while, but after a while it was just done, you know. But but that's the thing about movies, movies they have their own.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they expand it their own way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and so sometimes it just doesn't add up, that's fair. Because I'm thinking about it too. No, they just wouldn't let me know.
Speaker 2:The more I think about it, the more foolish shit I realize that it is. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because a zombie, I could see someone being comatose, right, not comatose catatonic, right, okay? Or zombie, like as individual is catatonic and then there's a stimulus and then they fucking, they get rabid or some shit. I could see that, you know like rabies and shit becoming a fucking spitting foaming mouth and all that yeah, I think that that's what world wars you try to try to do that's kind of what they're going for.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying like, we're like because, like when they weren't hearing shit.
Speaker 3:They were dormant. They were walking around chilling. When they heard this shit, they started running, you know or like in, like I am legend but those are vampires oh, they're not zombies, they're vampires.
Speaker 2:Oh you're, because they stay in the dark.
Speaker 3:No, not just because they stay in the dark, but they're actually vampires. They're conscious, If you see. Remember when the alpha is barking at them and shit.
Speaker 2:Oh you're right, yeah, you're right, they're vampires, bro.
Speaker 3:And then this fool, remember, when he goes, he goes to the fucking the warehouse and that fool captures one. He like puts the blood out, the shit gets in the trap and he fucking knocks it out with the butt of the rifle. Oh, yeah.
Speaker 3:I guess that was like one of the mates to that, to the Alpha. So when that fool had her in the fucking basement, that fool came after her and shit I remember now. Went in his little boo thing back Like and shit I remember now when his little boo thing back Like he's like he's like I can save you.
Speaker 2:That's why it sounded like. You know what it sounded like just then? I just sounded like the another Will Smith. What?
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 2:A little fucking cockroach, the cockroach alien from Men in Black.
Speaker 1:I put my hands on my head.
Speaker 2:You, remember that shit. I put my hands on my head. Yeah, that was disgusting, bro. I remember as a kid that shit gave me nightmares, bro. Not nightmares, but it creeped me the fuck out.
Speaker 3:I like that movie. For a while that was my favorite movie. No, it was a good one. My creep me the fuck out.
Speaker 2:I like that movie. For a while that was my favorite movie. No, it was a good one. My brother would put me onto it too.
Speaker 3:Why Huh? Why Recent events, you know.
Speaker 2:Uh-oh, Wait, what do you mean? Nah, man, oh, Will Smith, Will Smith, man Bro. You made me laugh Like you don't wanna. I love how furious I want to speak on shit that's already out in the public, Bro. I heard supposed to be. He takes you in the ass from Diddy bro.
Speaker 3:That's what I heard, bro. That is disgusting.
Speaker 2:I know, bro, I'm sorry, I know it's gay as fuck, but this is a timeless talk, we don't censor shit.
Speaker 3:huh, I ain't watching Men in Black, no more bro.
Speaker 2:All, but this is a timeless talk. We don't censor shit. I ain't watching Men in Black, no more, bro. Alright man. So before we wrap up the episode, I was gonna ask you before I have my nightcap too is there anything you wanna add to that? I know we kind of vaguely spoke on what was really going on, with this government speaking on it from what you watched, and them talking about the UAVs right, is that what they're called now? Uavs, uavs, uaps, uavs all right, was there any questions that you had? Like, now that you know that the government's kind of revealed what they wanted to tell us, do you think they're hiding anything else? Based off of what you were hearing, do you think they were giving us the full story or, like you said, I think.
Speaker 3:I think there's always something more to it. Yeah, you know, I I would never believe that they're you did say earlier too, they did it.
Speaker 2:You don't think they told us everything.
Speaker 3:They're not gonna be, they're never gonna be all all the way like transparent they're gonna give us what we need to know, or what they deem that we need to know?
Speaker 2:I don't think that or what they know they can't cover up. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna be.
Speaker 3:they're just gonna be like oh, we've been speaking to them, they're not going to say that shit there's been communication that's been reached.
Speaker 2:That won't happen. I think it's just for the.
Speaker 3:At least they're fucking acknowledging it. Yeah, so now people just aren't just quacks anymore. You're just talking out of your ass and shit.
Speaker 2:No for sure. I agree. I mean, I don't have much. Yeah, bro, that's pretty much, in a nutshell, what I was going to add to it, I think. I think for sure that there is more. There always is going to be more, and I agree that they don't. They don't disclose everything. You kind of beat me to it. They don't disclose everything. If they made contact with them, they're not going to report that right away unless we're in unless we're in intimate danger.
Speaker 2:Like we can't cover this up, they're gonna fucking look up and see it. You know what I'm saying? So until the god forbid the day that that happens, that's when we'll know right. Everything else is happening if there's communication at all, threats, whatever the case yeah I think we'll know when we know and if you see it.
Speaker 2:Oh, I almost forgot. Before I end the episode episode though I'm going to share my experience that I was teasing at earlier, remember. So what happened with me was I'll give you guys a quick story, right, I was dropping my brother off at his ex-girlfriend's house. He's no longer with this woman. We'll remain unnamed, obviously. So I went and I dropped him off at her house.
Speaker 2:I remember driving home this was in Palmdale, palmdale, california, just so you guys have just an understanding backdrop where this happened. It took place. I literally was leaving her house, right, I was back onto the main road. I was leaving the neighborhood, but that's going to main road in and, from my viewpoint, to turn onto Avenue R. Where I was at. It was an East Palmdale. I was able to see the mountains in the distance and I see a bright green orb. Mind you guys, I'm fucking sober. I know what I'm seeing is not being. I wasn't tired and, trust me, I say this stuff because I was coherent as hell. I cannot stress to you guys, the listeners, the viewers, how coherent I was, bro, I'm sorry, I want to really drive that point home, like I know you're, like you were tripping out I really wasn't tripping out, bro.
Speaker 2:I was as sober as can be as coherent, as can be not tired, wide awake, had energy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:I matter if I had just drank an energy drink.
Speaker 2:Those are garbage. I don't drink them anymore. But anyway I drank one back then and I was good, I was up, I was awake. You get the point completely coherent.
Speaker 2:Bright green orb comes down, bro, and it's moving, not super fast and not super slow, but it was moving pretty quick, like almost it could be mistaken for a meteorite, and that might have been what it was, but it was bright green bro. It looked like motherfucking green lantern was flying down from space into the planet. I mean bright green bro, like bright. It wasn't like a little bit red in there. And you know something that might have been a comment, right, because then people will always shut it down with oh well, that was a comment, like that was a comment, you know, or that was a meteorite, that was some shit from space that burnt up in the atmosphere. What you saw, right? No, bro, that shit came down and disappeared behind the mountains, either behind the mountains or within the mountains, you know, I mean like, maybe from my peripheral, my vision, you know, preference, my, my perception right my depth perception was off because obviously I'm on fucking land level.
Speaker 2:I don't know if that shit landed between the mountains, behind the mountains. Point is that shit went down and disappeared. What the fuck was that I don't know. That's probably. That is the only experience to this day, bro, and I've seen other weird shit, like I saw once something floating one time and just take off. I don't know what the shit. That was beautiful, basically were these aircrafts with beings on them, probably who knows, bro. I think you said we won't fucking know unless you have an actual experience. I I don't know what that was, what do you think it was, bro? So I share that with you guys and we're furious, really, I share, we're furious right now to kind of get your your take on it. What that was, what do you think it was, bro? So I shared that with you guys and we're furious, really, I share it with furious right now to kind of get your take on it what the fuck.
Speaker 2:do you think that was that I was looking at? What do you really think that was? What do you think UFOs are? Do you think that you? Okay, do you think a UFO is a craft of an aircraft, or do you think it's a being?
Speaker 3:Do entity?
Speaker 2:like just flying around and shit both. It could be both. Or it could be or it could be one.
Speaker 3:So I think, where do they go, where do they stay? You know be the entity in the craft, or it could be like a, like an automated craft yeah, controlled by something else, somewhere else right, but yeah, that's my belief with that why?
Speaker 2:what's up? That particular object that I saw, though? What do you think it was ufo? Okay, I know that, but I'm saying like do you think it was a sentient one or a controlled one?
Speaker 3:like a vehicle or who knows bro, yeah, that's true, you don't know I just want to know.
Speaker 2:But what you generally, if you, if you saw that with your own eyes the way I described it, would you think it was sentient or a fucking or a craft? It could have been either one.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I wouldn't say that it was necessarily sentient.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because from my distance it looked like an orb, but sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't say that it's sentient, necessarily, but I would just say that it's just unusual.
Speaker 2:Well, I agree, that is fucking unusual.
Speaker 3:Bro, they could have a fucking joystick up there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:They're like ha ha, he thinks it's that you know who knows the humans believe we fuck with them being flown by living being, or it is a living being. Why do you make them sound like that, bro? Bro, I know they sound like us right now. We're just. They're bullshitting like we are. They start laughing at shit like, oh fuck, you think these, you think these creatures laugh too, bro, fucking A, they laugh too like us, the fucking aliens. Man, they're going to come get us if we don't hurry up and get the fuck out of here pretty soon. I'm just kidding, I'm just fucking around.
Speaker 3:Imagine her waiting outside, as long as I get some powers man.
Speaker 2:Do something right, Something positive for us.
Speaker 3:Give me, like fucking, you know, give me an ability, an ability that I I don't really already have on my own. Let me be psychic or some shit. You know that'd be cool minds, something different, yeah, something like this tangible that you could use.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying uh I'll get abducted for like a day. I mean what?
Speaker 2:what do you think this probing shit came from? That's not my question that's not my question, but the probing shit like where did that fucking originate? Up the ass. Like Like why, bro, this is a cavity that they had to go for first. I mean, there's not a lot of options? Well let's say you say well, bro, it's either down your throat or up your ass. So which one?
Speaker 3:I don't know how to answer that, bro. Who knows man?
Speaker 2:Maybe the person who did have pause. Maybe it really happened.
Speaker 3:Okay, aliens like well you make the choice up your ass or down your throat. Okay, anyway, downloading data like how about you?
Speaker 2:don't probe. I wish you don't probe, shit asshole. I'm gonna just interview me, you motherfucker. I'll tell you shit. You tell me shit. Downloading response through I would try to bargain receptacle I would try, I would try, I would try to bargain with the alien. You know, I'd tell him I'd be like look dude.
Speaker 1:Bargain unacceptable.
Speaker 3:Rejected Fuck you man Probing immediately no. Probing Information extracted and consolidated, analyzed. Human is scared. I'm like information. Extracted, oh my God. Consolidated, analyzed yeah, he would have stopped.
Speaker 2:Human is scared. Stop listening to me. A long time ago that's what he would say. Like I stopped listening to you a long time ago. We will get the information one way or another, right, bro? Because I'm saying like I would try to bargain with him, like hey man, how about we have a back and forth like I'll give you some information, you tell me some shit I don't know about you, and then vice versa. You know what I mean. I would try to make it make sense somehow. But like you said, or he'd be like I fuck you, I'm not telling you shit, I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna extract the information from you anyway. Okay, so I digress anyway. So I'm allowed to the last question I have for you. Furious, I just told you about one of my personal accounts. Have you had any yourself that you're willing to share with me, the viewers and listeners? Personal account that you've seen, witnessed or believe, but really that you've witnessed and seen yourself?
Speaker 3:As far as aliens go, no, and experience no, you never seen anything either.
Speaker 2:Aliens no, no UFOs either, or UAVs, nope. Or. And experience no, you never seen anything either. Aliens no, no, ufos either are you a or uva.
Speaker 3:No, I've. I've just seen um. It's called shooting stars, that's it.
Speaker 2:I've never seen a ufo ever so the color of a shooting star isn't alarming right, but a bright green fucking orb. That's not a shooting star right.
Speaker 1:Would you be so that?
Speaker 2:that alarmed me, because that's not what a normal meteorite would look like, right I?
Speaker 3:think yeah, but honestly, an orb, an orb of any kind would alarm me, an orb? Fuck yeah an orb, because the orb is not. It's not.
Speaker 2:It's not a comet, it's not a shooting star, it's an orb well, it looked like one, so if you can imagine a bright green look it had just like essence did it have a trail? So it was kind of like, actually it was actually. This is a great example, right here you can't see it, it's off camera so this is. It's like, it was like this, but imagine another circle around it. Like like another, but it wasn't. I couldn't tell. It was a physical circle. You could see the light of a circle, so whatever energy source in the middle.
Speaker 2:It projected a circle around it with the middle part. Looking like that, something like that, I would be alarmed by you know. Thank, you and it's that. It was that fucking green. See how green that is. It was like that, bro yeah, something like fucking green green like that, like hulk green and shit, like he just fell out of the sky, yeah for sure, like yeah, something like that.
Speaker 3:Like for sure, yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:So I don't know, but you'll never know bro I wish it was closer, I couldn't drive to it. I mean, mean, that shit was you know what I mean out there in the mountains, right? Who knows, bro, you would have had to bend out there to see. Oh, right there, you know, present on a camping trip, I would imagine you're in the mountains. You don't get the point? All right, guys? Well, it's that time it's always been a great.
Speaker 2:Another episode of a timeless talk. We discussed some conspiracies today. We talked about it says a quick little recap for you. Obviously, you know we just discussed the situation with uavs, ufos, right, and then we also discussed the astral, astral projections, if that's any reality to it. So, you know, check us out on, if you guys are listening to us, check us out on youtube. Uh, everything uploaded there. Uh, we do have to update our page on rumble. It's been a while since we uploaded their vets and missions rumble. I'm getting that all sorted out, but a rumble is going to have updated episodes on it pretty soon. Uh, right now, youtube has everything.
Speaker 2:So, if you enjoy visuals, which usually has its its perks sometimes we eat hot shit, sometimes we do some entertaining, entertaining, funny shit for y'all to actually see. But again, shout out to our listeners as well. I want to give you guys some love. Just as much as I'm always giving love to YouTube, I want to give love to our listeners, our listeners on Spotify. You guys are the best. You guys give us our most numbers. The highest numbers are coming from Spotify. So thank you for fucking with us and rocking with us. Guys, those times are a little more spread out now, furious. It's not always just the morning. Now it's the afternoon and early evening that people listen to us before they go out partying and shit. So, hey, thank you for making this part of your friday night. Before you go hit the, hit the club, whatever the fuck it is you do out there, just be safe while you do it. We appreciate you guys here on timeless talk furious, you got anything you want to leave with them with. Before I hit my last two notes here.
Speaker 3:Hey, yes, stay safe out there, that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, look up in the sky. You might see, see a UFO. Just be Look up and be aware of your surroundings always. That's my advice to you too, man.
Speaker 1:Right yeah.
Speaker 2:But shit, man. With that being said, this has been Timeless Talk. We'll see you guys next week. Peace Outro Music.
