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🎭🎶🕵️♂️Stage or Reality: Jay-Z & Diddy Allegations, Celebrity Shadows & Hip-Hop
Is your office just another stage, & your co-workers mere actors playing their parts? On this episode of Timeless Talk, we challenge the conventional view of professional roles by highlighting how everyone, from the bottom rung to the top, performs daily. We transition into the Main Topic: the curious case of Jay-Z and Diddy, unraveling the latest scandalous allegations & questioning their impact on public perceptions and the music industry. What does it mean for an artist's legacy when personal conduct threatens to overshadow professional achievements?
We continue by stepping into the shadowy world of secret societies & conspiracy theories, wondering aloud about the involvement of high-profile figures like Jay-Z. The conversation touches on the difficulty of separating truth from fiction, exploring examples from well-known cases and bizarre incidents. The episode also takes a dramatic turn, examining how allegations can reshape reputations & legal standings, shedding light on the delicate balance of celebrity life and the constant scrutiny it entails.
Finally, we peek behind the curtain of celebrity relationships and the struggle to maintain authenticity in the spotlight. From the unique dynamics of personal assistants to the pressures of maintaining a loyal inner circle, we navigate the unpredictable world of the entertainment industry. Personal anecdotes & cultural references add depth to our discussion, inviting listeners to question the authenticity of celebrity personas and the blurred lines between public images and private realities.
• Discussion on the recent allegations against Jay-Z
• Analysis of celebrity friendships & their implications
• The significance of vulnerability in artistic expression
• Reflection on past artists & their influence on hip-hop
• Conclusion on the impact of reputation & accountability in the music industry
*Intro Beat Credit: Leo Legendary*
*Outro Beat Credit: Young Frenchy 808*
You, the viewer and listener, you go to work. Let's be honest we all put on an act to a degree. Let's be, honest, we definitely do. You have to play their game, you know. Whether you want to and I'm not saying me particular in this situation or even furious in this particular situation. I'm just saying in general, right Over a general audience here Anybody that goes to work every day, definitely, absolutely even management, right, they all play a role, they all put on play a role. What does that sound like to you?
Speaker 2:pretending, aka acting. You know I'm being a certain way, that I know I have to be project myself in this environment.
Speaker 3:I'll say okay to you know productive performing.
Speaker 1:There you go, I'm saying that's what it really is at the end of the day. You know that's to fucking summarize it even quicker.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I digress and welcome back to the conversation that never ends. This is timeless talk. I'm your host, aj. We got co-host Furious back in the house and we're back for season five, episode eight. For y'all, yo, cheers, brother, cheers man. Cheers to you, brother. I'm glad you're back with us, man. Oh, you know what that's okay.
Speaker 3:You sure Is it waterproof. I'm going to leave it there, bro.
Speaker 2:Bro, that shit's Growing down.
Speaker 3:That shit's growing down. I should leave it in bro.
Speaker 1:Hold up. Damn, where'd it go. Anyway, bro Started there. Huh, did I get it all Should? I leave it in take it at all we have.
Speaker 1:we have real life mishaps on this set. As you can see, we're not perfect human beings, as nobody is on this planet. But, uh, hey, man. Uh, welcome back to timeless talk. Let's make sure these buttons still work, shall we? Yeah, all right, we didn't break the $800 piece of equipment. Yeah, we're all right, we're live. Okay, can you hear everything? Okay, I want to make sure your speakers are good, your headphones All right.
Speaker 1:Y'all, welcome back to another episode of Timeless Talk. We're happy to be here with y'all. Welcome back to another episode of Timeless Talk. We're happy to be here with y'all. You know what I'm saying? It's another day, another week of podcasting topics for y'all to discuss on the conversation that never ends. Today, we have slated, we have I'll just get right into it. We have a couple topics we're going to discuss. Obviously, last week we spoke about the Dodgers. This week's going to be about more pressing issues, I guess. I mean, they're not really affecting our lives, but it's kind of affecting someone's life that's involved with some other individual who's I don't want to say sus to have as a friend, a very suspect to have as a friend. Now, actually, I'm gonna fucking say it, it's involving someone who has a very suspicious friends friend his damn and that's Mr Jay-Z. If you're living under a rock and you don't know what's going on with Diddy, go watch our episode on Diddy. We have an entire episode about what's going on with him.
Speaker 1:But some new allegations arose within the last couple weeks or so that this gentleman, jay-z, supposedly partook in some sexual harassment, if you want to call it that, and some assault charges or not charges. Nothing's been charged yet. Accusations, assault accusations put against uh, mr, uh. I want to say sean, sean combs, right, no, that's the fucking sean carter. Both their name is sean. That's crazy. I haven't called him diddy's name. Almost sean carter. Uh, supposedly touched and violated this girl. Right, this woman in one of one of uh diddy's name almost Sean Carter supposedly touched and violated this girl. Right, this woman in one of Diddy's Did. They say it took place at a freak off.
Speaker 3:It was after the VMAs.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yeah, it was at the VMAs, right? This woman claimed that she tried to get into the VMAs. Someone that worked with Jay-Z and Diddy supposedly saw her and said that she fit the bill of one of their after parties. Quote, unquote freak offs. You guys know this and for those that don't know, jay-z and Diddy are actually close. They're like really good friends, really really close friends. So you know that motherfucker partook in some of these freak offs, I'm sure before or after fucking Beyonce bro.
Speaker 3:I'm not sure that makes a difference. The fucking photos go back to like like nine you know what I'm saying Like like 2000,.
Speaker 1:bro, no, they do they go back? You know it's crazy. You've seen them too, right? We'll put some of the photos for you guys to see. We'll put some of those up, I mean later on, I sense especially on paper right, you're like well, these fools really would be.
Speaker 3:Yeah and they all, and bro, all these fools came up around the same time, early 90s, you know, mid 90s so, and both of them are what they're they?
Speaker 1:they have billion dollar, uh, enterprises, you know, I mean yeah, no, and that's kind of where I wanted to go with next, knowing this information about them, right first of all, I should ask you this furious are you a fan? Of jay-z's music. Yeah, me too to a degree I like some of his shit. I ain't gonna lie blueprint three right, he had some classic fucking albums.
Speaker 3:The black album, that was a good one. That's like one of the first albums I ever bought really, we actually okay but out his his. That's what it was. First album reasonable doubt I said, the black album that's also an album. Right, that was good too, that was good too, but reasonable doubt.
Speaker 1:That's the one I was trying to think of that's a great album, bro.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's probably like like one of his best albums, yeah and he has a couple.
Speaker 1:Like you know. There's some, there's some music that he's made. In some tracks in particular, that kind of sit weird with me. I ain't gonna lie, you know. I mean there's a few for sure like I don't know what it is, bro, it's catchy and I think this one's on reasonable doubt. Youbt, you can correct me if I'm wrong, but the Evils, which is like you know, they put the little I don't want to say the Evils, is it the Evils?
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, but it's spelled Devils Like.
Speaker 1:Devils. Yeah, so that particular song, bro, I've even shit, I've even used the beat and the song itself to promo the Diddy episode.
Speaker 1:That's ironic as hell. But if you go on our instagram you'll see that I use the evils to fucking, or devils or everyone call it. It's called the the evils, right, but anyway I use that. I've used that track to promote shit in the past. Funny, ironic, not on purpose intended situation there. But anyway, that song. Why I bring it up, I digress it's because, like, fuck, it just is an eeriness to it, but I like it, I ain. I ain't gonna lie to you, it's eerie. Even some of the shit he says is kind of sus. Like you know, I pray to God. That's right, it's wicked. I'm paraphrasing Don't butcher me Comment section. He says something along those lines right, that's right, it's wicked. You know he godd. That's right, it's wicked, you know. I mean you could really read into that like okay, who the fuck are you praying to, bro? Like you're just not even hiding your shit, it's kind of ambiguous, though that's true maybe he's trying to be funny with wordplay right, or be clever, who knows?
Speaker 3:I feel like it's a deeper meaning there, bro, but I mean like subjective, you know I mean. So it's like I mean whatever the obviously the artist got because you say ambiguous.
Speaker 1:It's like what else is he saying, though? What else could you possibly saying in that sentence, bro?
Speaker 3:I don't pray to god, I pray to god. That's right it's wicked.
Speaker 1:What do you interpret I? Okay, that's a good question. I like that. I'll answer. I'll ask you the same thing. Um, for me, I take it as he's basically saying whoever you all consider god, I pray to the opposite. That's what I got from it. Like yo, straight up, I don't pray to god, I pray to god, that's right, it's wicked. So to me, you're blatantly saying if you don't got it, if you don't understand what I mean when I say God, he, I'm gonna, I'm gonna elaborate on it by saying yeah, that's right, it's wicked. You know I'm saying, but you could easily hide behind that, like I was just clever wordplay.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? But what was he rhyming wicked with? I don't know. That's a good question, I gotta hear it again that's fair. What fair. What did you get from that?
Speaker 3:Well, first I'd have to hear it again, that's fair, but with that just off that line. I really can't say.
Speaker 1:That's true. Damn Good point.
Speaker 3:You got to hear the whole thing, that's fair.
Speaker 1:No, no, that's true, we're kind of adjusting, we're kind of judging it unjustly right now. You know what I?
Speaker 3:It's just one line, that's true, the whole song is kind of If the song's called Devils anyways, granted, there's going to be certain terminology in there that's going to, and then obviously there's some intention there. Yeah, I mean Jay-Z has he's worn a shirt. I've heard that. I don't know if you've heard of his name, aleister Crowley. He was one of the yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you brought it up. I was actually gonna say that yeah did you see that, that photo?
Speaker 3:yeah, do I start? Well, and I think he was having like an interview or something I saw it's a screenshot that's fucking viral.
Speaker 1:I'm sure you've seen it so, the so, the so.
Speaker 3:The term itself isn't bad. Obviously, the creator of the term, that's the person that everyone associates it with right. So anytime they see, they see that they see that on somebody. They're like oh, this person's satanic, but because he's a.
Speaker 1:He's like a known devil worshiper, satanic, satanist.
Speaker 3:No, he actually no, he started his own religion.
Speaker 1:It's called it's called uh the lima really, yeah, I don't even know that, bro, that's wow and everything is.
Speaker 3:It's got a like this, like crazy like symbol, like I've actually seen people come in like you know, like at the job I've seen, I actually saw someone that had that tat that's obviously like someone else like, like, like someone else looking at it is gonna, is gonna think that it's a tribal. But I saw this shit. I was like oh shit, like I didn't. You knew it was some shit in plain sight. Yeah, yeah, you're hiding in plain sight.
Speaker 1:You just said it. Yeah, so if you, if you're willing to share it with myself in the public, what is your overall because obviously the episode is not going to be about that, of course, but what is your general consensus? Thought I'll word it differently what is your general idea, like what is your opinion that you're willing to share? I'm Jay-Z. Do you think he's involved in all that? Because you said hiding in plain sight, I wouldn't.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't Okay. I have no evidence to really say that he is but I wouldn't be surprised if he was involved. I just wouldn't, just because, would you say, it exists.
Speaker 1:What the other, the whole situation, you know like that the Illuminati, the fucking Satanists and all that.
Speaker 3:It's possible. Is it plausible in every sense? Not always, but who knows bro? Who the fuck knows Bro? There are secret societies.
Speaker 1:That's true that's just you'd be naive to say that it doesn't yeah that's true secret there.
Speaker 3:There's secret online forums that have certain ideas. You know, I'm saying like shit I would. I would even say that you know sorry, no good sir, yeah I mean, I'm there's, just there's certain, there's places, you know, on the net, where there's forums, where people have certain like they have certain proclivities. You know I what I'm saying of different, you know genres or whatever. Good point, and no one else knows about it because they're not in it. That's true, you know what?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's true.
Speaker 3:I mean like why would it just stay at this level? It can go from the lowest levels to the highest levels, especially if they can have more? Damn, I wouldn't be surprised. I mean, especially up there, man are actually seated in positions of power that they can actually use to do things you know Like. Think about it. Yeah, that's a good point, bro, let's say that, like the director of the NSA, right was one of these partygoers right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The pull that he would have, he could probably, you know, sign these things. You know what I'm saying To a certain like you know degree, to make make it like, look like like, not suspicious yeah.
Speaker 2:You can probably pull some strings and make things happen you know.
Speaker 3:So that's a good point. I mean, I really don't. I don't, it's not that far fetched. However, it's like this tends to when there's no evidence and there's only, it's kind of hard to support it, your full faith in it.
Speaker 2:I respect that.
Speaker 3:Because you never know, because there are people who do make fraudulent claims, you know of the same degree that they do and they actually admit that they're wrong. Now, even in those cases, they could have just made a deal with the person too. Who knows? You'll just never know. You never know unless there's actual proof. That's a fair case you know, because like, let's just say right, there's, there's just allegation. Now right, let's just say this one is false. Right, what if there's another one that's actually true? It's funny, you say it.
Speaker 1:Will it maybe be false? We'll get to that in a second but, no, you're right. Could it be the next one? Could be true, like I said, even if this one is, even this one ends up being fake, right? Yeah?
Speaker 3:because let's say, even with I know we're kind of probably going a little off the road no, go ahead. Let's say like with what's his name? Michael Jackson.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:However many cases he had right. I'm not sure how many of them that he actually settled out of court. But let's just say he settled all of them out of court, right? Doesn't mean that he did do one damn. I mean what? If I mean I'm not, I mean obviously you can't really that would, that would, uh, that would hurt.
Speaker 1:You know, like my first credibility to my opinion of him you know well, not credibility, but opinion. You know I'm saying sure, but um, yeah I mean, you just never know. You never know man it would definitely falter your opinion, because then if that came out, you're like fuck well, I was wrong about that shit. So maybe I'm wrong about this too. Yeah, and people you don't really know, because I mean, even if you know the person right, they can hide things from you. You wouldn't ever even know it took
Speaker 1:place. Well, you know, I killed goats in there, bro yeah but to add to that, bro, don't do that.
Speaker 3:But you know, yeah, but just a wild example, there's, there's a, there's some innocent people that are that are locked up doing like doing like real time, and they didn't do the crime. You know what I'm saying? Damn, it just got pinned on them. Why do you think that that?
Speaker 1:happens? Do you think that happens because people just played the wrong cards, or do they just ruffle the wrong feathers? Did something they weren't supposed to do, you know?
Speaker 3:what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like wrong place, wrong time association.
Speaker 3:That sucks. You know what I'm? This person looks like this, and then let's just say let's just say that you just happen to have a set of things that they're looking for.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I mean especially like in the past, bro.
Speaker 3:Like in the past before the law became a little bit more thorough, people were getting pin for shit that they didn't do all the time.
Speaker 2:People would.
Speaker 1:That was a, that was a reoccurring thing.
Speaker 3:Did you hear?
Speaker 1:there's this recent event um, where a guy supposedly dressed in blackface to do a crime so that they would.
Speaker 3:Oh shit, oh I didn't know about that, bro. Yeah, what's going on with this world? Just in blackface to do the crime and then like what yeah, they had to yeah, was that his decision?
Speaker 1:well, you'll never fucking know, because it was his crime.
Speaker 3:But damn bro like he did it in bro, people aren't stupid, bro, you know what I'm saying. So it's like. That's why I'm saying there is a possibility, man, that's fair.
Speaker 1:But man circling back to the topic, no for sure, that's definitely something to think about. That's good food for thought right there, bro. But some person might do an action dress a certain way, just because they thought it was fitting.
Speaker 2:Yeah no-transcript, that's true, it threw you I didn't think of that.
Speaker 1:But yeah, you know like, yeah, it could literally. That could be the case that's why I'm like man.
Speaker 1:Okay, speaking on that, though, like I said, getting into what we're going to talk about next. So my thing with that man right in the whole situation with Diddy the person supposedly I'm going to stop putting that up Shit he's falling Supposedly now, right, this person's accusing him of these actions that happened 20 years ago after the VMAs. Right is claiming that she has autism. We didn't get a name, obviously, or a face. It's blurred out. She spoke to a media source. I forgot which one it was, man I. I looked, I forgot exactly which one it was, but I know she spoke to.
Speaker 1:This is verified as of yesterday, after this recording that you know her story didn't add up. She was saying things and that you know it didn't make it really make too much sense. And then she didn't want to reveal herself because I know that jay-z had prior, the week before, challenged her to reveal herself. Like you're going to make these accusations to fuck up my reputation and my outlook and my image on the world. Reveal yourself. People know who the fuck I am. Say who you are. Now, that's a scary game Because I feel like, at the same time, if you reveal who you are, who's to say he won't send a hitman. He can absolutely afford it.
Speaker 3:He can absolutely afford someone to take you out.
Speaker 1:Why the fuck would you reveal that information that's sensitive as fuck? I wouldn't reveal that. I'd be like fuck that I'm not telling you who I am. If I can win money off this shit without telling the world who I am, absolutely I'm going to stay anonymous.
Speaker 3:But if you're going to get money, then they're going to know and then you know if anything happens then he's gonna get implicated damn.
Speaker 3:So she can kind of like well, I benefit if you, god forbid, kill me, you're just gonna solidify and certify that you really did do something yeah, I wanted to silence me yeah, but there's also another nuance, you know, and it's nothing against her, but I think part of the reason too, like because it's so sensitive, it's extra sensitive, it's because she has she has autism or she's claimed to have autism, so it's a extra, extra sensitive.
Speaker 1:And her story and that's why I bring that up, because supposedly her story had a bunch of holes in it and that even even the news source that that gave her the platform to speak, in a blurred sense, their state, because you can see her, you can see her complexion, but you can't really tell who. It is right, it's blurred out for her protection.
Speaker 1:whatever she were. She requested to be anonymous, so her and the interviewer kind of just like they're like yeah, I heard there's a lot of holes in her. The news source said that there's a lot of holes in her story. Like this shit doesn't even really add up, so this actually might benefit him. This coming out might actually benefit his case further.
Speaker 3:But if she? But let's just say, right, she has this condition. Right, yeah, from what I heard with this condition. Right, yeah, from what I heard with this condition, obviously there are high-functioning members of autism.
Speaker 1:Who have it?
Speaker 3:right.
Speaker 2:Who can?
Speaker 1:articulate a payday.
Speaker 3:You can articulate that. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:But not all of them can. That's true. I used to work with them.
Speaker 2:Some of them.
Speaker 3:They just ramble on and don't make any sense.
Speaker 1:That's true. Well, because, to be fair, I work, you know, without going into a whole side spill, I used to work with them directly at my old, one of my old jobs in the past. I would help them, you know, learn basic skills and stuff now, and there were a lot of high functioning ones, bro now hold on.
Speaker 3:When they were uh recalling uh an event of the lies with you, did you hear any plot holes?
Speaker 1:no, oh, yeah, yeah, actually, yeah, yeah, yeah, I did definitely for sure. I mean it was cool, the majority of it made sense, but there's definitely plot holes, shit. There's plot holes in films that are written by people that don't have autism. Yeah, but that's just bad writing, that's true. But my point that's a good point. That's just fucking bad writing. That's not the same shit. That's a good point. That's just fucking bad writing. That's not the same shit. That's a good point. Where's the laugh track? Man, I got to play that shit.
Speaker 3:Hold on the thing about it is look, the shit was damn right fucking 30 years ago. There's going to be plot holes. No, you're right bro. Okay, if it's true and she was 13,.
Speaker 1:There's going to be plot holes, man, man. No, you're right, that's why.
Speaker 2:That's why she's just 13 the story's gonna have holes because you don't remember.
Speaker 1:It's right, it was so long ago that nefarious has got a point. You're not gonna remember. Recollect everything perfectly to the way it exactly happened you're gonna miss.
Speaker 3:That's fair. And not only that, if she didn't tell anybody, she's extra and she didn't till now and you look worse now now. That's, that's why she doesn't. She probably won't have a case now. That doesn't mean that nothing happened low key.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, hold on. You plagued yourself. I'll say it again low key you congratulations. You plagued yourself would you? Say to a degree, I would say so.
Speaker 3:No, I mean maybe because I mean when you're, when you're young. If something like that happens to you, I mean, thankfully you know nothing, you know that doesn't hopefully that doesn't happen to no one else. You know what I'm saying, but like you, can only imagine what someone's going through, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's true. No, that's fair.
Speaker 3:You probably. You know, like withdraw, you probably go through and not it might make her process things differently. You know, I don't know if she was already a withdrawn individual, who knows? You know what I'm saying. But just because there's no one that she told it doesn't mean that it didn't happen. You know as many plot holes as there is. Who the fuck knows 30 years ago, damn near. Who the fuck's gonna? Who knows bro?
Speaker 1:No, that's. True, Nobody knows bro. No, that's. True, nobody's saying nobody.
Speaker 3:The crazy thing, though, is that some people can recall everything, that's true, but, but I have yet to hear one that is autistic to do that. You know what I'm saying. Like with um, that's a good point. Like with kevin spacey right, but I feel like he's gonna try to run with it. Of course it's the offensive, it's. It works towards his advantage. I hope he's innocent.
Speaker 1:I hope I hope he has to do with that shit. So do I? Just because, yeah, I don't really wish anything negative.
Speaker 3:I respect him. You know what I'm saying and his legacy you know what I'm saying is dope, but the thing is it's like—. That's really what this is. Battle for his legacy. And if this is true, though, let's just say you know, what else does that mean about the people he's with?
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying Because it's just going to expand.
Speaker 1:And that camp is corrupted, bro. But Jay-Z has that part of his legacy right, based on what we were talking about, so I don't really see this affecting him too much, especially if this is going to be playing in his corner. As far as her not her story having holes in it, I mean mean they're gonna try to clap back with oh yeah, so you're gonna use her disability against her. Of course you're gonna use that to your advantage. Who the fuck wouldn't? In your position, you're a blah blah blah, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean you're the same thing as your buddy, but they're gonna anticipate that so so his I know his lawyer is gonna be ready for it he has to be. The thing about this is once they so let's just say that they do defeat this right. Yes, this, um, this, this accusation cheers. By the way, they got to be on guard for the next one. Are you ready for another?
Speaker 1:one. Yeah, sorry they're gonna be on guard. No doubt gotta be on guard in the defense mode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because now it's like bro, whoever's going to those parties is on the list, you know what I'm saying they're you know I'm saying so celebrity a, celebrity b, c, d, whatever, like they're fucking shitting bricks right now. The the ones who actually were involved. Oh, you're right, because I didn't say that.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Furious.
Speaker 3:He was Celebrity.
Speaker 1:A, you heard it here first. Well, you didn't hear it first. You heard it here, second, third, fourth, fifth, whatever Point is. You heard it from Furious, officially, from Timeless Talk. You're right, if you've been following. Thez was for those that don't know was revealed as celebrity a in the in the diddy case.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a big fucking deal, because he's still a bc and d and that was, and that was months before they were more names to come. Oh yeah, but. But, but that was before they actually like dropped his name name, they already knew who he was. Yeah, but he was just classified as that no, exactly yeah.
Speaker 1:So I think it's because they're waiting for more shit to come out before they could reveal him as damn, but I know he should at least seen it coming bro but the thing is man, his, I mean he probably did because, because his response was, his response was good it was his response. It was powerful and like he probably had it articulated beforehand.
Speaker 3:No, I mean. That doesn't mean that he's guilty, right, what I'm saying is like, but, like his, his response was it wasn't one of guilt.
Speaker 1:It was like bro, like that's fair.
Speaker 3:I agree with that it's like hey, man, like you got me fucked up it wasn't an admission. That's true, like it's worded I know this dude, but I'm not on the shit that he's on you know I'm saying he's my boy, but I'm not with that. But that's, that's the risk of guilt of association. You, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's like bro, your boy's doing some fuck shit.
Speaker 3:Like okay, let's say that. Let's say, like one of your boys is in the like CS right, you're fucked.
Speaker 1:Yep, you're fucked Just for being cool with that fool bro.
Speaker 2:Congratulations. You played yourself Just for being cool with that fool bro.
Speaker 3:People are going to think a that was your best homie.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, you're right, especially if you walk around like all hugged up and shit. That's my brother. I don't think you understand His businessman.
Speaker 3:Yo man Yo man Buy his liquor, man Blah, blah, blah, blah bro. And this whole time this fool's got a whole hard drive on his shit.
Speaker 2:Drink Ciroc, you'll never see Ciroc on this show.
Speaker 1:You're like, and he endorsed it because that's his boy.
Speaker 3:So it's like, if you know him on that level.
Speaker 1:You definitely know him better than we do.
Speaker 3:But that's why, at these parties, bro, they fucking take your cell phones and shit. You know what I'm saying? They'll fucking make you shine in the age, because they already know some fucking fuck shit's going to be going on, which is why he should have seen bro Fatality.
Speaker 1:He's cooked, would you agree? But I mean, I would say that Jay-Z's more in the finish him stage right now if he's not careful, would you agree, because Diddy's already?
Speaker 3:Jay-Z, I would say he's on the precipice right now, depending on what comes out next. You know what I'm saying. So, if this person's testimony is crushed, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Then he might have a leg to stand on.
Speaker 3:Then he'll be fine. He might have a leg to stand on. Yeah, then he'll be fine.
Speaker 1:However, his reputation is still going to have a hit, it's going to have an asterisk there. Think about it, bro. Well, not overall, not overall, but it's going to have. In this sense, think about this.
Speaker 3:Think about this, bro. Okay, here we go. Who's coordinating the Super Bowl? Jay-z. So this is just the worst timing bro up, so he has to he has february brother get this shit quick. He has to make this shit go away quick, bro, if anything. If he loses that, he's fucked the super bowl, bro, they're gonna have fucking you gotta go.
Speaker 1:I didn't think about that. You know the nfl's pain, bro tom hanks doing that shit next, bro he said tom hanks coordinating the halftime show. Oh my, who's gonna get garth brooks? I'm sorry I'm stereoty.
Speaker 2:I just have a stereotype bro, oh we were thinking he like country.
Speaker 1:Who's going to get Garth Brooks?
Speaker 3:for the half-time show. You know what I'm saying, bro, so that's why like look man, I'm going to sound biased right now.
Speaker 1:I'm thankful You're going to laugh when I say this shit, I shows ran black. I don't give a fuck. I love that music. I'm a hip-hop head my damn self. So you know, I know it's funny, but it's the truth, man.
Speaker 3:So they give that shit to somebody else like that. You don't know what the fuck we're going to get bro.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. That's a big, you're not school team. It's a scandal.
Speaker 3:No big business does. But think about this too, bro. That's fair. Why did Lil Wayne get mad at Kendrick this year?
Speaker 1:Because of what? Because he got the halftime Bro, he got the halftime performance. So right now everyone's just like this yeah.
Speaker 2:Because if Jay, because look look.
Speaker 1:If Jay, let's say he does get in the night or I fuck with Jay right which was a smart business move to pick Kendrick, because everything's going on, he's winning but if he goes down, that whole roster's gonna get changed. That's not gonna affect.
Speaker 3:Kendrick, though says who you think so how do you know you think it would? Oh, because he's a. If he's off, oh, this shit runs deep because it's affiliated with Jay Z, if he let's just say that there is some validity and he gets moved off, which he will because they want to defend their reputation. He'll get moved off. Good point Whoever gets put in. If they don't like rap music, they're going to change the fucking venue. That's what would affect Kendrick directly.
Speaker 3:They're going to change it Now he might be able to still have a spot, they would at least honor it.
Speaker 1:I mean, come on, he made the announcement, but they don't have to and what he's doing this year, but they don't have to.
Speaker 3:He's pretty big this year NFL's bigger than Kendrick that is true for sure, kendrick's big and they revenue more money, but NFL's bigger bro corporate. I don't think they truly care who they even have.
Speaker 1:Corporate is bigger than Kendrick, that's true.
Speaker 3:Kendrick is bigger amongst us and amongst like you know what I'm saying in the hip hop culture.
Speaker 1:But my thing is, they're a money-making machine, right yeah, so it would be a very bad business move To put him up there. Well, no, really.
Speaker 3:I was going to say the opposite. No, because look To take him off.
Speaker 1:No, it would be smart to keep him, don't you think? Especially on the high that he's on right now, he's having a good year. Hell yeah, that fool's on top of cloud 12 Just beat Drake in a battle. As an album, I would say it's a 50-50.
Speaker 2:I would say it's a 50-50.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't say it's a guarantee, why not?
Speaker 3:Because Jay-Z picked him. That's fair? It's not necessarily.
Speaker 1:And that's what will boil back.
Speaker 3:Fuck, because let's say Public perception is everything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:Let's just say that they can pick anybody they fucking want they could. They could pick you me. That doesn't matter who they, if they trust you, they, they know, they think that you know what you're doing, bro. They could put anybody they want there. Yeah, obviously they want to put someone who has a good reputation, a good standing, that can bring them the fucking business right. So jay-z's good for that. He's like bro, it's jay-z he his reputation is mostly on tarnish, I know he had like he gets, if he gets cooked with this shit, Bro.
Speaker 3:it's bad for fucking business.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, it's bad for business, bro.
Speaker 3:What I was going to say, what I was going to add, though, is this right, Big business will separate themselves from all this kind of fuck shit, right yeah. However, this is the fucking. This is the other side of the coin, right? Preserve their reputation Behind closed doors. They probably still participate in this shit too. They got the money, they got access, they got the fucking range. They probably all do this shit on the low. They're just in the front. They're like, ah you can't do it man oh shit.
Speaker 1:Remember, man, I used to work, you did you used to work alongside some of these people In a place like that you did bro, I know, and for those that don't know business, for exactly for the new listeners and viewers out there, they don't know this gentleman used to work amongst some of the bigger names that you guys recognize on the screen for sure, and he has stories that I wish he could use and display and dispouse online. We can't do it. I'm gonna respect this man signed an nda non-disclosure agreement and I can't ask him to breach that. That's not fair to his livelihood and his future on this earth. So I'm gonna be respectful of that. But, man, if you guys knew what I knew, man, because you've been around those people, we could say that much you could talk vaguely about it.
Speaker 3:Right, at least around us. You know, not all of them, but I've, I've you've met enough, witnessed enough and you witnessed enough to know, know like, okay, like people don't know shit. Yeah, what gets out there isn't always what's fucking true, like obviously, because just even just to get to their house you got to pass through fucking gates.
Speaker 1:And at that point it was you. Yeah, he was that. He was that guy for those that well that you guys know and love. He was a guy at that point, at that situation, at one point of his life, right when you they had to get through you to see these people so I mean Furious, saw their guest lists and whatever the situation they had going on on their property, this man right, so that was a fun to me bro that would have been a cool ass experience, just to have it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you see it for what it is after you see the soft white underbelly yeah, I like that and that shit is just like it is down here.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. It's just they got, it's not. They got more money, that's it more access better houses, obviously better better food they have access a lot more better everything, everything material better okay, but everything materialistic of the world they have on like level 10, being human, they're the same. Yeah, they're the fucking same yeah, they have.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying proclivities. Some of them are sus as fuck. Some of them are just, hell yeah, trying to get a nut. That's being nice. Some are just trying to get a nut, that's fair.
Speaker 1:He's right, some are just trying to get a nut.
Speaker 3:But to be to be fair, though, there's a lot of weird shit going on in hollywood, man, it's not yeah, it's the don't yeah and you were just in a community right there in itself, that little community that you saw people come and go, bro you saw so much shit bro, you heard about so much shit bro, and it's like, of course you know this is all hearsay. Obviously I couldn't bring anyone up on their stand and be like of course, and I love this, in fact, exactly.
Speaker 1:So I love this I love my brother I ain't gonna ask him to implicate himself. Fuck, no, we're not doing that today or any day, but you know what I mean just know it's not all you see.
Speaker 3:Okay, like just know that when you idolize a star or an actor or whatever. Just know you're idolizing someone that you could possibly you probably would hate them if you really knew how they got down.
Speaker 1:I was about to say that they say it. That's why you don't want to meet your stars. Yeah right, because they say, when you meet your stars you run the risk of hating them, especially about an actor, especially after they're actors. So they're acting to be, they're portraying a certain way in public.
Speaker 3:Oh hey, that's that's an act and it is because think about who really wants cameras in their face all day. Most people don't you're right.
Speaker 1:I'm saying, and I actually want to. I want to elaborate on that, to make it even more, to make it even more personable and relatable yeah you, the viewer and listener, there you go to work. Let's be honest, we all put on an act to a degree. Let's be honest, we, we definitely do.
Speaker 1:You have to play their game you know whether you want to and I'm not saying me particular in this situation or even, or even, uh, furious in this particular situation. I'm just saying in general, right over Over a general audience here Anybody that goes to work every day, definitely, absolutely even management, right, they all play a role, they all put on, play a role. What does that sound like to you, pretending aka acting?
Speaker 2:I'm being a certain way that I know I have to be project myself in this environment.
Speaker 1:I'll say okay.
Speaker 3:To be productive, I'll say performing there you go. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:That's what it really is at the end of the day. That's to fucking summarize it even quicker.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I digress, it's a performance. You know what I'm saying, like when you're getting reviewed. Oh, your work performance review you know what. I mean Bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, and they know it. Words, and it's like they expect you to understand. Look, bro, we get it. Some shit's gonna rub you the wrong way, piss you off. Even we expect you, though. We have expectations for you to project yourself differently. You gotta know right, there's certain ways to say things, certain way to do things, but if you're a person that's based off emotion, you don't really use our, you don't articulate logistics behind it. You're gonna pay for it but that's the thing, see.
Speaker 3:The thing is everyone's got everyone's emotional to a degree I am, I am your favorite people, everybody is, you are your favorite people.
Speaker 1:Of course, everybody your favorite people no one in particular got some of the worst fucking vices and worst fucking I agree, proclivities out there like you just don't fucking know, that's true, you don't know, yeah, like oh my god, like it's like man.
Speaker 3:No, no, that's like for real.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fair no, that's fair, and it's everybody, it's not you, it trickles out of everybody, it's not just anybody in particular I, I second that, that's true. But anyway, man, you know, back to what we were talking about. For sure, that all ties into this, because I can really only imagine those that are in, you know, I'm saying sean carter's camp, jay-z's camp, besides diddy, I really wonder, bro, you know, they have to be like okay, we have to address this properly. But then you know, behind closed doors, where there's no cameras and no, no, microphones.
Speaker 3:You're talking to the lawyers for you know, they are big time lawyers coming through bro and there's two sides of the coin, right?
Speaker 1:so you're right, and you've seen that too, I'm sure I'm here to see.
Speaker 3:Uh, you're like oh yeah, okay, you're on this list. You definitely know it. You know a fucking phantom, phantom phantoms, bro, those are rich as fuck bro, see, this is exactly okay.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna say something. Okay, this is completely off topic.
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna say this shit. There's no wonder to me why so many failed marriages exist in that universe. When you have that kind of money you're playing with. It's because I feel like they get to a point right where, like, I really love this woman. This is why okay, I'm gonna say something. This is a hot take. This is way off topic, guys. I'm just gonna put it out there. Anyway, I feel like if you don't truly love the woman you're with and you have their kind of money, goodbye.
Speaker 3:You're gonna fuck around her every day.
Speaker 1:I mean she really has to be like you said. It's gonna get to the point where he said even if she's home, you're not gonna give a fuck you know I'm being. I'm being superficial here, I'm being real. If you have that kind of access and you know you could have them in a finger snap if you don't act right or fuck asking if you don't be right you think you're still gonna cheat, it's not.
Speaker 3:I mean that, bro. Bro, these fools got fucking 12 room mansions.
Speaker 1:Even if they're home I'm inviting shorty home you can still cheat on them across the West Wing. Yes, and you don't know what's happening.
Speaker 3:Bro, cars parked right side by side man, oh, that's so true, chick is rocking it.
Speaker 2:How would she even know?
Speaker 3:I'm here for so and so okay, you just said it.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what can? You okay, before we go forward, this is a nice little sidebar. We're gonna we're gonna go here for a second before we go into depth about that, right? Um, I feel like the house is big enough you'll be able to have someone come in. She won't even hear it happen.
Speaker 3:She won't even hear the person come in if the house is big enough, look, look, and you can go over to the last swing, do your whole thing and then she wouldn't even know at that point. No, at that point. Trust me at that point. Trust me. They know there is no secrets amongst them, okay there can't be.
Speaker 1:I mean, they have so much, so you should they got too much of this, bro.
Speaker 3:There's. There's really no, no secret. The thing is legacy at that level is all about legacy. How do we look to the projection?
Speaker 1:how do we know I respect, because you can't just be a wild fucking. You can, but you're going to be looked at the same way Because look?
Speaker 3:it's not a one-sided endeavor.
Speaker 1:They both do it.
Speaker 3:That's fair, they both bro Bro, personal trainers, all kinds of shit.
Speaker 1:It's like man bro like just I'm here to uh go to so and so and it's fine.
Speaker 3:Okay, let me give you an example husband's out of town in a different country on business. Bro, I was gonna say that in the world we're talking about.
Speaker 1:he said I'm there to bring you your coffee Every single morning bro, he's bringing her coffee and something else too.
Speaker 3:A 12-inch stirring stick.
Speaker 1:No, nah, he's bringing her a hard stick to stir it with too. I'm bringing her a coffee.
Speaker 3:all right, Because the thing is, bro, when you see them, when you see them taking because look, the reason why I say this is because when you see them taking a walk, that's not training bro, what are you talking? That's not part of you, bro. Okay, I'm glad you said this. Mind you, there's nothing against walking. There's nothing against walking with the trainer.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just saying that's a warm-up, okay, I'm just saying, come on bro that could be, you know so, but at the same time, like a
Speaker 3:warm-up, to what but?
Speaker 1:in the same breath right.
Speaker 3:Theoretically I could be wrong too, because obviously I'm not there, but however it's like. I look at two and two, I see how person A does their business and how person B does theirs, and I'm like hold up. Y'all are never here at the same time.
Speaker 2:And if you are.
Speaker 3:It's for like three days a week. Maybe People are human at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:So they're doing something. Even if you're naive, you're like oh, she's not doing anything, while I'm not around.
Speaker 3:It's something now. In some cases it may not be anything. Right could be, yeah that's fair to say. I would say 50% of them.
Speaker 1:They're for sure for sure something going on. Well, I mean, you have an insight that none of us well, not none of us, but some of us don't have because, some things, bro, bro, at that level, bro, you think that?
Speaker 3:you think that they don't pay for it? Oh come on fucking bro they got money they don't got.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest to them. You're so right. They'll, they'll. They don't have time.
Speaker 1:They're going to speak in the random bro even though, let's be honest, if you have the fame to go with it, you might not have to pay for it, bro no, no but what I'm saying? Go to a mall in the middle of the fucking day. Oh yeah, I promise you you'll find someone that's willing to have that experience. You know, I'm saying, of course, even if it's for that one day. But they don't want they don't like.
Speaker 3:They don't like people at our level, because people at our level will talk. We'll go out, you know, saying we're gonna be so you know what's it called. You know, um what's it called astonished by their wealth and this and that, like we're just gonna be, we're gonna gonna turn into a fucking what's see? What you're saying so they like people at third level or somewhere kind of close to it, because they know, okay, you guys respect wealth, you guys don't, you don't really crave the wealth, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I can utilize you and be safe. That's a good perspective.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? People at our level, a woman, would have to be just super fucking bad, super bad for them to be like. You know I'm saying other than that. Like they like you have to be, that's fair you'd have to be the fucking cream of the crop at this level for them to be like come on over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what I'm saying no.
Speaker 3:No, I see what you're saying, though, for real, yeah, for sure, no doubt.
Speaker 1:And you got a good point, because that's what they want. You're right. Why would I go? It's gonna sound fucked up when I put it this way. Why would I go? Why would I go and waste my time with a bottom bowler? You know what I mean. I hate to say it, but that's what we are to them.
Speaker 3:Bro, that's how they look at it. They're not going to say it like that.
Speaker 1:No, of course not, but the thing is, bro.
Speaker 3:I remember one time man.
Speaker 1:To be politically correct. I remember one time bro Go ahead. Obviously I'm not going to no names Go ahead and share scenarios that you were the rich person man came up to me one time bro, go ahead, right, here we go no names.
Speaker 3:This little guy had the nerve to tell me I'm making good money and he's driving a fucking phantom.
Speaker 1:I'm like bro, no shit, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:And obviously, obviously, you're making good money. This ain't a rental, you dickhead? No, he was telling me, I make good money okay working. Yeah, exactly, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, that, right there, that shit.
Speaker 1:I have a good question by the way I have a good question. I'm gonna cut you off. You have more.
Speaker 1:You have more to add let me ask you when it hits you, did you ever think because if I were you bro honestly and I say this true, heartedly, because I love you like my brother, you know this did you ever think you know what? I'm gonna use this shit to maybe make a connection that can help me get out of my fucking bullshit, that situation like? Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful to be a guard in this fucking guardhouse. I'm sure it's prestigious to a degree to be here, right?
Speaker 1:yeah but you want to step it up a little higher. I'm sure you went to work thinking you know, maybe I can make a connection. One of these people and have some fucking endeavor. Of course come from it. Oh yeah, no, yeah. So what were your thoughts on that? Did you ever try something like that, or no?
Speaker 3:there are opportunities. Okay, don't get me wrong, there's opportunities.
Speaker 1:But however, however, you got to better yourself you got to understand.
Speaker 3:Okay, what's up when you're dealing with rich people. That's like modern day royalty, okay, so like it's like, so like back in the day when there was dukes and queens and kings. Like today, the dukes and queens are rich people.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's rich people for sure people who own businesses who live in a certain bracket.
Speaker 3:It's the money sure right, it's the, it's the it's the power. So absolutely the financial power. Everything is now like financial right. So, yeah, um, the thing is like no, there were opportunities, right. But at the same time, you see also, you see everything up there, bro, you see how they treat their workers. You see all kinds of shit, bro, and me I'm not gonna be no one's fucking dormant, I don't give a how much.
Speaker 1:No, never fuck that you have self-respect, bro people like you, bro.
Speaker 3:People get don't be wrong, you'll get paid six figures, right, yeah you are. You got no. You get no sleep. You get talked to like you're a fucking piece of shit you are. There's the catch you're the fucking bitch, bro and not and I'll also tell you this some of them are known publicly to have horrible personalities. They're great, they're, they're great actors and actresses and that's what they are, but they have.
Speaker 1:You gotta remember that's what they are. But they have horrible personalities. You got to remember they're actors. They're toxic as fuck.
Speaker 3:They'll fucking pay you right, but you're on thin ice every fucking day. Because they know at the end of the day you need them they don't need you, unless, look, unless you have a literal switch to turn off your yeah, then okay but let me ask you this you know, do you think it's possible?
Speaker 1:and this is, you're probably like, yeah, but that's probably an outlier, right?
Speaker 2:let's just say do you think it's possible that in that world, to be hired, help, right okay, because I'm sure this exists to a degree to be hired, I'm getting somewhere, yeah, no, no, no, I'm going somewhere with it okay, is there a possibility to ravage a career from that?
Speaker 1:they say, for instance, the person really likes you. It can be fucking lebron, it can be anybody right, it could be fucking.
Speaker 2:It could be denzel, can be any sylvester okay, any of them, right, any of those guys slice alone then the.
Speaker 1:I really fuck with you I see your potential let me. Let me bring you in on this world and help you advance, because I fuck with you that much. I actually want you to be a friend, okay, I mean, so is that a possibility? Yeah, it's for sure, possibility it's like how would you have? Like a fucking five percent chance of that shit and here's why I don't take you serious at all. No, no, here's why. Okay, first off you're a person.
Speaker 2:First off you gotta realize this.
Speaker 3:They're fucking busy as fuck that's one thing.
Speaker 2:They're always out making money.
Speaker 1:Right, that's one, so they're not really focused making money doing their shit drugs, whatever the fuck right they.
Speaker 3:They got families too. They're married, of course. Yeah, so the best way to get to close someone like that personal assistant, right, however you?
Speaker 1:gotta say that that's probably the word.
Speaker 3:You gotta understand these, these fools, don't?
Speaker 3:they're the boss they're in the hr okay, you know, hr, nothing to fucking a grievance, nothing like that. It's just you and them. Okay, you guys have a deal right. If they're having a bad day, bro, you're having a bad day, damn, they gotta take a shit. You gotta take a shit, not, not, not, obviously, like, not, not like that. But what I'm saying is like you would have to show, you would have to show a way that you would be beneficial for them with monetary value or, let's say, if it came to like to like their family, like their family just really fucks with you heavy. Everyone in the family's like I love this person they're, they help me feel a certain way yeah, if they saw that, and it was like a unanimous thing.
Speaker 3:They're like okay, like we're gonna, we're gonna keep you around, but once you break that you're, you're at the mercy of of the family, so it's still a fucking shitty deal you're at the mercy of how they feel about you yeah you know I'm saying you can.
Speaker 3:No, don't go wrong, it happens, it has happened, I've, I've, I've seen it happen. But it's like it doesn't necessarily make the person that they feel more comfortable because it's like okay, okay, like now you're in, but you're still not blood, you can still fuck up, yeah, and they're like okay, like no, but I've, trust me. I've seen the situations where, like this person's, like family, they get this full six months paid off. Paid off same rate go ahead take a break, take a vacation.
Speaker 3:They, they can do that, they are they're. That's how much power they got. They can, bro, you can have a six-month vacation a year. Let's just say, like you went through something like traumatic because I have, I have for sure I actually can't. I can't divulge this one, but it's like I've seen okay, you know, saying not, not even you can't do it off the record.
Speaker 3:I can't, okay. But but this one, I actually know the people involved and let the fool off with pay, everything like that, and I'm like bro, that's a one in a billion chance that someone would have that kind of opportunity. So you have to be able to first— you just got to kind of be in the right space.
Speaker 3:You have to have the right level of work, ethic, performance you have to be able to withstand. You know the fucking toxicity that they bring because of their fucking status, their muscle, because they're human. They're not perfect, right. They just got a lot of money and a lot of responsibility. They got families and shit they got. They got baby mamas yeah, they got like two. Some of them got one, two, three. They're just like us. They're just rich, bro, that's it like us so but they're also in a way, they're just like us.
Speaker 3:They're so temperamental. Yeah, they're still cranky, they still get they. They're still addicts, they still. Some of them are alcoholics, cokeheads, you know, I'm saying crackheads like they still do that shit. So it's not like that, it's that it's just not the most. Uh, I'll say for someone going into that situation just be prepared like it's not gonna be rosy and all that stuff you're gonna. When you first get in, cool, you're gonna be elated. Don't be surprised when that person's like where the fuck are you? Yeah, bring your fucking ass here. Like, like, they'll talk to you like that. Hang up a click, oh, oh, but, but I'm in traffic. Click, if you're not here, by blah, blah, blah, you're fired. Damn bro, they'll wake you up. Call you 24 7 because you're on call, because you're the estate manager. Um, I heard some uh, oh, one of the lights is out.
Speaker 1:Blah, blah, fix it now and they had reserved the right to do that. You actually. That's the contract there's no.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying so to work. There is a lot, don't go wrong. There's potential, right, but you have to. You have to be a really good chess player, bro. You have to bottle your emotions up and if you and anyone who can withstand that, I respect that playing the game you in some cases is worse for, uh, for a woman especially, especially beautiful women who are humbled as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because if you're with a you know a male, a male, um, star male, like someone who's upper echelon, and they're also attracted to you, obviously they're going to hire you because, cause you're fucking attractive as well, you're nice, you're. You know what I'm saying? This is it puts people in a bad position, bro, because they're like I'm rich as fuck, I can win or lose, I can fucking throw the offer if she don't want it. Okay, next there goes your livelihood, damn. So imagine how some of them give in. I'm sorry, some of them give in because some of them don't.
Speaker 3:It's a fucked up game, bro. All right dang, it really is bro. Yeah bro, I think, man, it's just, that's just. I, me personally, like I really wouldn't recommend anyone you know working for that unless they, unless you have to be, you have to have, you have to be stone cold. To be assistant To assistant or to be assistant to assistant or what exactly, oh yeah, for that you have to be able to bro cause if they're having a bad day, bro.
Speaker 1:I'm already like fuck bro, I don't know how I'm gonna deal with it. No, you're right, it's on you too if they're having a bad day.
Speaker 3:Bro, you're the closest person in fucking proximity. You're in charge of all the schedules, right?
Speaker 1:all this and that so would.
Speaker 3:They're going to put you in charge of their mood, to a degree that's some bullshit, bro.
Speaker 1:Some of them are going to, obviously— I'm going to be like man, fuck you.
Speaker 3:You're fucking shit, bro. Obviously like they're not going to blame it on you, but let's just say— Better not bitch you had a bad day.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to make it better.
Speaker 2:Asshole.
Speaker 1:Let's say that they're having a bad day, right? I Say, for instance, I was in the Alfred position at this point. The madman Listen, asshole, I'm in your personal space for a reason, right, you chose me.
Speaker 3:Let me make your day better, asshole. In some of those situations it works out, and if not, fuck you. In some of those situations it works out, Usually not male to male.
Speaker 2:That's fair.
Speaker 3:Okay, Female to male. Yeah, it'll work out.
Speaker 1:Because it's're like oh fuck, and look, you turn me on yeah bro you know what?
Speaker 3:shit you get this shit after bro. I'm telling bro you'll get fired for anything, but I wouldn't doubt.
Speaker 1:Some of them probably even fucked the person of course, if they were good enough bro, bro they're gonna be like why not?
Speaker 3:no shit, you know, and, and the person who's especially with the female female Bro, that's a wrap. Especially if they're like, if they got nothing to lose, right, they got no kids, they don't got a husband or something. Sorry, sometimes they do got a husband yeah, sometimes they do, but it's the star, it's a rich person and they're going to get the benefit.
Speaker 1:They're going to fuck them, know because?
Speaker 3:I'm like exactly they had their experience, they wanted to have their little star-studded fuck experience, or whatever you want to call it bro like.
Speaker 1:So it's funny because in the show entourage, what I wanted to reference earlier, right, I'll circle it back right now. But there's in the show entourage, bro, there's a moment where vincent chase fucks a fan that he met on the street. This fool got lunch with his friends. I'll paraphrase because I remember exactly how the episode went. But long story short, he meets this woman on the street, asks her for opinion on something I forgot what it was.
Speaker 1:He's like what are you doing the rest of your afternoon? She's like really, she's shocked. Like he wants to hang out with her. Like what the fuck? Like you're that bored? He's like, yeah, let's just fucking chill, let's hang out. You cool with that boom. And then he fucks her right, got it easy, and at the very end of like banging her, they're in bed and shit talking afterwards and she's like he's like let's do it again next week, same time next week. She's like really, you, you actually like me. Like she's surprised that he likes her. He's like no, fuck with you. Easy opportunity, bro. Finds out she's about to get married next week. Yep, and the only reason why she did it is because her and her husband had an agreement that if they ever came across or had a chance to fuck this particular.
Speaker 3:Their fucking crush Then they would do it.
Speaker 2:Celebrity crush yeah.
Speaker 1:And she tells him that and he's like Okay. I mean, I'm not mad, all right. All right, fuck it.
Speaker 3:I mean, hey, cool this, but it happens, bro. My point kind of coinciding with what you're saying there. That happens all the time, bro. I've seen getting married next week, bro fucked her. So her favorite celebrity like, let me tell you something. Okay, I've seen boyfriends drop their girlfriends off for a photo shoot she's getting a photo shoot yeah, she's getting fucked not a photo shoot. And the pick her up too. It's not a photo shoot, though naive as fuck.
Speaker 3:Not a photo shoot, bro naive bro, not a photo shoot at all. I don't want to say no names, man, look bro.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to say any names, man because I respect for the person that no one love. I know someone who naively believes that his situation is that, and I think that he thinks I don't know, I could be wrong man, I shouldn't say this shit, I mean okay look, but I mean, he claims that's what she's doing.
Speaker 3:I'm like man if he's dropping her off at a photo shoot or she might just leave he's at home and she leaves hold up if he's ever dropped her off, if her photo shoot is at a mansion, I'm sorry. I'm sorry he said. I'm sorry Now granted granted, granted it's not a guarantee that she's giving it up.
Speaker 1:She can't go in there and take a picture and leave she. No, look, here's the thing, because the thing is, I already kind of know, at least I know what went on at the place.
Speaker 3:I was at right. It doesn't mean that every place is doing that right, that's fair. However, if she goes in there and she sees how everything, because obviously she's going to know, you know what I'm saying? They fucking invite all their fucking old ass friends and shit, right so obviously they're not just fucking playing tennis and shit, right. But if she goes in there and she's like, okay, like I'm going to leave because this is weird, Okay Good.
Speaker 1:Good for her.
Speaker 3:Good yeah, but a lot of times, bro, they stay for tennis, okay, so in the photos, he Okay.
Speaker 1:So in the photo he's taking for tennis. In the photo they're playing with nuts. You see some old ass fools pulling up bro. They're playing with nuts, you see some sick ass whips, bro.
Speaker 3:Rich is bro, old bro, I'm talking about like 65,. Bro, Bro, your freaking 20-something year old girlfriend.
Speaker 1:He's like oh, she's getting plastered 27 year old.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no for sure. Year old yet, bro. You see, 18 year olds come up there. Oh, 18 and up, bro. You see, and it's just like damn like, and you already know, bro. It's just like fuck, bro, you look and you're like another one another one.
Speaker 3:She's done, though she's cooked another one so, yeah, so that that that world bro is very ambiguous, because they're insulated by a lot. They're insulated by just people who just want a taste of it, right? So they're willing to fucking like dismiss a lot of things just just to get access, right. A lot of people are willing to look the other way just to get access, just to see. You know so, and they, they fucking know that you know what I'm saying so they have.
Speaker 3:They have the leverage on people who are who, who want. The person who's not affected by that shit is a person who knows who they fucking are, knows that okay, I don't have it now, but I might be able to get it myself later. They know that my success isn't linked to me working for a star or being in this crowd with them. You can make your own shit and fucking get there. It's going to be hard, but you can make your own shit and get there. But the people that are looking to get a leg up by association, they're the fucking most like susceptible in my opinion you know, because they go there with fucking hopes and dreams and shit.
Speaker 3:And then they give them a hope and a dream and some of them take it, bro, Some of them don't.
Speaker 1:But it's on the dream, Tell me bro, and they fall for that a bitch. That's the reality, though, bro.
Speaker 3:Like when I hear about people, oh, hanging with like stars and stuff like that, like I've, you know, I've met some females that oh, like I've hung out with so-and-so, I'm like, okay, I know you for sure, fuck for sure. Yeah, no doubt, just because this person, like, I know the lifestyle already.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, you, yeah there's no, yeah, the only time, the world, only time that's the only level that I would say that a chick that's like really pretty can get turned down because there's a chick that's prettier, yeah, unless, unless she's joining them facts. You know, I'm saying at this level it's not happening, right, they got the pig litter like down here when they, when they go up there, bro, different story good luck because there's no, because there's really, there's money being passed around there's crazy people are getting paid, bro.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be where we'll see. Yeah, why do you think it is that way, though? Why? Because they can do it. Yeah, it's simple, it's. There's no complicated reason for it. It's just, bro, people like the path at least of the least resistance, right and for to get what you want. What's the least resistance money, thanks, what is it? So you know, I'm saying, for you it's money, for them, survival, yeah, we have an even exchange. Now I can, I can, procure your survival, you can procure my enjoyment, even trade, maybe even your enjoyment dang you might.
Speaker 1:You might have a little fun your damn self enjoying. You got people that.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying that's, and that's like when you start hearing things come out about these stars, sometimes it's just jaded lovers. They're like, oh, he did this and that and it's like nah, you were fucking with him, but you thought he was gonna choose you and he didn't. He didn't choose you or her. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:yeah, sometimes that happens too yeah, it was put in the driver's seat right in that situation yeah.
Speaker 3:So when it comes to this whole jay-z thing, I'm not sure. You just never know, bro, because it could have been. I I really don't think he would do that right, but just because it there's, there's an accusation, it's possible yeah, it's definitely possible you know, I'm saying, just because he's jay-z doesn't mean he's not, he's not, he is human, he's not impervious, he might have made.
Speaker 1:He might have made a bad decision.
Speaker 2:He was younger.
Speaker 1:He was a lot younger, he was 30 years younger, exactly, but circling all back to this, bro, with Jay-Z, the fact that she was the age that she was, though, is what really really fucks me up personally, bro, and I'm going to tell you right now man again, I don't give a fuck if she is busty at that age, bro, if she doesn't have an ID proving her age or a birth certificate proving that age.
Speaker 1:You got to be over your 20s, bro, because I mean sure they'll say I don't know what's in the water man. This bitch looks like she's 22. Sometimes that is the case. I ain't going to lie. I've seen 17, 18-year-olds, even a 17-year-old turning 18 that year. That looked like she was 25.
Speaker 2:Have you not seen that? I'm just saying we admit to that, I'm not saying we indulge, like we find out.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'll go that way, the fuck that way. And you do feel kind of weird after you're like damn, had I known. Now I feel sick well I mean, you really care.
Speaker 3:The thing is look, because it's like yo, you didn't fucking know but now you know, it's like all right, but let's say that, but let's say that, you didn't know, would you, would you continue?
Speaker 2:that's the thing, now.
Speaker 1:Now here I have a theory for that. I think that a woman that that is of age right, let's say that you're assuming she's 25 based on how she's built, right, but she's really barely going to be illegal 17 turning 18, right, let's just say that's the case. I think that what will be revealing factor say, she looks like she's 25 but she's eight, she's turning 18, right? I think a revealing factor would be how she carries herself, how she speaks, of course, I'm saying that should be a giveaway, like wait a minute, hold on.
Speaker 2:However, something's really off here no, of course, you got a very young demeanor about you.
Speaker 1:You know, I mean like well, wait a minute, however, but you know.
Speaker 2:I mean that should be enough for you to catch on like, wait a minute, you're not here, let me see a fucking id.
Speaker 1:Yeah, your mentality, your understanding of the world is way different than a 25 year old should fucking be, you're right, but you got to consider this right, I'm just saying, but you also got to consider that, um, what's it called?
Speaker 3:first, these fools are drunk, right? They're not talking.
Speaker 1:Right, they're going up, so they're going upstairs fucking what looks like it's of age going upstairs, right.
Speaker 3:They're going upstairs right dimly, dimly lit room. Someone else who's equally as fucked up, right, hold up. This isn't justifying anything, right? No, however, I also think on the flip side, you're just trying to make sense of it. On the flip side, me personally, I can tell when a chick is of age. Of course you can just. You can just look at them, bro. It's like bro. What demeanor too? Demeanor, no, but just like the how their their face looks. Everything's like bro. No, you look like a fucking kid.
Speaker 1:You look like I can see that you know there's only one woman I could agree.
Speaker 3:okay, there's only one woman I can agree. There's only one woman I know, bro, not know, but obviously I've met her a couple times, right, I'm an old joke, right? The only woman I know, no, who fucking looks. No, she's like right now she would be probably like 45, 46, right. She looks like she's in her fucking 20s.
Speaker 1:I kid you fucking not Get the fuck out of here, bro. No bro, fucking young bro. I'll text you the name. How bro does she drink animal blood?
Speaker 3:maybe she's a fucking vampire.
Speaker 3:Maybe she's fucking fucking twilight or something baby's bloody movie, but um nah but, I'm saying on the most part bro, you can tell bro if, if you look bro, you can tell bro you're saying height. Obviously knowledge is high, but development, the face, though, like for some reason, bro, a mature face, bro, on a man or a woman, bro, you can just tell yeah, okay like you're saying, like I agree when they have that, that almost okay, like, let's say like, like, like, like with males if they have a boyish look, if it's still boyish, they're young, they're still young, it's not saying that they're not an adolescent, but they're still young femalesales.
Speaker 3:If they have a girly look, they're probably young. Okay, obviously, if they're going from 17 to 18 or 20 or whatever like that, there's going to be a slight variation right going up, but there's a maturity that you can see. You know what I'm saying. Some people you should be able to notice they just ignore it, or the thing is they're probably fucked up so they're not even driving looking like that. You know I'm saying plus.
Speaker 1:You know I mean they're all they might use that. They might use that enable it.
Speaker 3:You know I'm a nose enabled yeah, uh-huh, but we're enabled, all right, but that's why I'm saying like, that's why I think some of these fools bro, when they did do these atrocities yeah, that's what they are they probably legitimately thought that the person was of age.
Speaker 3:Right, they probably did. Doesn't condone it, most likely. You got to do your due diligence. Before you sleep with anybody, you should at least ask them their fucking name, right, ask them their age. Be smart enough to know those things. Do the basic shit. Yeah, okay, you got to know who they like. You got to be smart enough to know this shit. Just a random, you know. I'm saying like obviously, because then it's like what are we really doing here, bro, even at a nightclub, right, even at nightclub right, where people are getting carded, right, you still got to do it why people can get fake ids right and, like you said some, some females can be fully developed at a young age and they can be deceiving and they could pass for an adult right to to certain people.
Speaker 3:Obviously, in in a club you're not going to be talking about shit. You know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You're going to be divulging and figuring out shit. You're right. You're right, not in that setting. Yeah.
Speaker 3:So I'm just saying it's like at these freak-offs and shit, people are all under the influence and shit and there's hundreds of people probably big-ass mansion. If the limo driver did bring this chick from the VMAs, this 13-year-old chick, that's the fucking unlikely part to me. Okay, that's the part, that's the whole of me. I'm like the limo driver from the asked you to go. Now, if it was for Diddy, that's different. Okay, Because his shit is just looking like he said you've been limographing for his shirt.
Speaker 3:His credibility is like is going down. His shit is cooked, bro. He has bedrooms in his basketball, in his basketball court. He has beds that come out the wall in the basketball court, bro. I'm like bro, unless that video was a fake, but that shit. Just look, I'm like fatality. He's done what do you do?
Speaker 1:why Fatality? He's done. What do you do?
Speaker 3:Why.
Speaker 1:Why? Which begs the question, and that's why You're going to ask questions like why do you have fucking beds on your court? What are you holding? A youth camp, bro?
Speaker 2:What are you doing?
Speaker 3:I agree. What justification do you have to have that many beds right there in the fucking stadium, bro? But that's the life of the rich, bro, they can do that shit. Oh, let me just put a bed, let me. Let me. Let me put a bed on the balcony, hanging off upside down, that I can still sleep on oh my god, with the tv, just because, bro, just because, bro, I can afford it.
Speaker 1:Why not Fuck out of here, bro?
Speaker 3:The most expensive mattress I've ever seen come through and it's probably cheap now compared to when I saw it. It was $4,000. Fucking mattress, A mattress.
Speaker 1:Or delivering this A mattress.
Speaker 3:Bro, I'm telling you, bro, a mattress, bro, bro, I'm telling you, bro, bro, with that type of money, bro, bro, the HOA fee, $10,000 to live in pro $10,000 a month, landscaping, 5,000 to 10,000 a month, what go Wow?
Speaker 1:Think about it bro.
Speaker 3:And that's not it. They got, they got a chef, they got a driver, they got a. They got a fucking chartered plane. How much money do you?
Speaker 1:have to have to sustain a life like hundreds of millions bro and more coming in basically investments.
Speaker 2:The bro, these people are sustained.
Speaker 3:They're all invested in companies, bro, where they're getting residuals on the bro. They're not, they're not losing money, they're keeping money and they're they're gaining. So to yeah, so to have that they're fucking locked in companies, bro, where they're getting residuals. Bro, they're not losing money, they're keeping money and they're gaining more. So, yeah, to have that kind of—.
Speaker 3:They're fucking locked in the market right now, bro. Crypto, all kinds of shit, bro. They're not getting broke anytime soon, bro. I mean besides Kevin Spacey, because he's not getting any more work now. He's fucked, I think, bro. His shit is fucked coming back from the 80s on his ass, bro. Oh man.
Speaker 1:When they were young.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:He's probably cooked, bro.
Speaker 3:That's why you haven't seen him in shit lately anymore. No, they fucking canceled him, bro, Netflix. The last series he was on was called House of Cards, which was a good show it was. But when this shit came out about him, bro, it's like his character and like that they're like. Is that how it was?
Speaker 3:because his character in this show was fucking evil yeah, fucking bro, he definitely did all the dirt, bro, he was killing people. He had a fucking, he had a fucking side piece, his wife had a side piece. So he probably was like I'm playing myself, that's what people, that's what people thought damn, you know what I'm saying. So yeah it's just hollywood man. You just never know. You just never know.
Speaker 1:Did you watch House of Cards?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Before the allegations, I loved the show. The show was dope. I'm like, bro, this is a dope ass show Like. This is one of the first shows where I'm like, oh shit, I'm actually into this shit Because it's like politics, it's the shit that we want to know. But it shows you the other side trying to kill people to get up fucking positions, backstabbing shit that we're very familiar with.
Speaker 1:I was about to say. We're familiar with that on a smaller level. You know what I mean it's just.
Speaker 3:It's just a bigger, it's just a bigger stage, bro.
Speaker 1:That's crazy yeah, man, it exists in every level, for sure. That's what I'm saying, bro. You just gotta play the game to play the game.
Speaker 3:Don't idolize your fucking stars or people who you admire. Don't idolize them. They're people I'm telling you like, they're capable they on the real shit, right?
Speaker 1:they probably don't even fuck with you they probably don't even care that you that you like if they met you if, if they met you, they wouldn't care that you like. They'll care that you bought the movie, probably, but they wouldn't care that you really and we have a perception of some of these people that we think that they would be a certain way. No, and we're wrong.
Speaker 3:The thing is, bro, a movie is a product, a play is a product.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's how it's got to be looked at. Don't get me wrong, it is art but it's a product.
Speaker 1:Is it weird that I feel like and I think maybe we say this because we're on the other side of it?
Speaker 2:But you're like man.
Speaker 1:If I was in that position, I would cherish every person that bought what I fucking.
Speaker 3:And some do, some do. I think that's cool to be a beautiful thing. Some do and some try the fact that you really love my shit.
Speaker 1:That's cool as fuck, bro. That means a lot to me Some do, but Because without you I wouldn't be here.
Speaker 3:But we know that there them, they can't, they can't meet every every one of their fans. They just can't, they can't do it, they're going. You know, I'm saying they only the people that, because they got meetings to go to. So when they do do their little meets and shit, those two people that get the opportunity, they're all they're, they're so cool and it's like, yeah, but it seems weird, but like again, this is gonna sound hella biased yeah and I'm sure other artists have ways of doing this too.
Speaker 1:But one thing I really liked and respect about jay cole is that he would tell like at the beginning of a show he might do an intro song to start off and set the tone right after that song, he would stop the music.
Speaker 1:You'll tell his band to stop playing. Everybody turn on, turn on the lights in this. Motherfucker. I want y'all, please, can y'all turn on the lights so I can see everybody here. I can't thank you guys individually, but I see you way at the fucking top, nosebleeds. I see you up there. The fact to me, bro, and you might be thinking I think that that's badass when they acknowledge those people.
Speaker 1:I see you, bro. I may not be able to thank one of y'all individually, but I'm going to give some love to the top deck right now, because you motherfuckers paid, you waited outside to be in this bitch to support and see me. That shit, me, that shit means a lot to me. To him say that I'm like but let me, that's cool as fuck I love that.
Speaker 3:That's cool man you know I mean like I hope that's genuine I hope that is that should have fucked me up. Let me tell you this, bro. Let me tell you this right, he said this I wish I could thank each of you, right, he could do that all of them, every single, come on now.
Speaker 1:Everybody in that stadium. He got the time, dude he can that is true.
Speaker 3:Why?
Speaker 1:didn't he do it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's fair, you can really he literally could do like you know, I'm gonna shake everyone's hand. Why doesn't he do it? Why not? That's a good point. I would do it.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying you don't got shit for the rest of your life. I mean, if you got a schedule that's the ambiguity, bro.
Speaker 3:You gotta look. Look, j Cole's a wordsmith right, so he'll be able to. He'll be able to me man like, oh, I can't do it, right, but you know, you know, oh, man, that was so heartfelt like you played into that shit. But what I'm saying, actually do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, actually do it because you know what's gonna follow, that is excuses. Oh, you know, I got a next tour date, I got next estate. That's cool, but the thing is what people don't understand bro they won't.
Speaker 3:Let me have a choice no, no, no he can do it bro, he can fucking, he, he can fire his fucking personal guard right there. Fuck you, I'm not leaving this bitch till I shake everybody's ass. Yeah, and they'll have to abide by it. They have to abide by it, bro, like they have the choice to do that, bro.
Speaker 1:What if they're like?
Speaker 2:bro, you're on that tour bus right, motherfucking.
Speaker 3:Now mark my words, bro, we're gonna pull the plug on your whole shit. Mark my words, bro. The next big star who has like an actual organic following, where they actually fuck with him or her, if they go out and greet everybody like on a personal bro, they, bro, they're going to have the fucking world, bro. That's true.
Speaker 1:I agree. Like I said, I'm not trying to paint him as some perfect human being. He has flaws Nobody. I hope you don't think that.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying that I would say he's one of the, not to say like. I mean, yeah, he is relatable, but he's like down to earth, you know what I'm saying? His bike in town and shit, and that's dope because while and he actually stops to talk to fans, they have like they have a recording of it?
Speaker 2:he'll get off his bike.
Speaker 1:Be like what's up, man? What's my hey? Man, I'm showing you love too. What's your favorite?
Speaker 2:track of mine. I got a minute. What's up?
Speaker 1:talk to me but it's like I seen that I'm like, okay, well, that's some hope. You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean too good to talk to him and shit. But imagine if he just he just pulled up just to talk about whatever he tried.
Speaker 1:He tried that. There was one time he was like I love that, you love my music. How's your day going? You enjoying this weather? I love this shit, I love riding right. I swear he did that. One time I was like that's what we need more that's what you need I know, no real shit. He did that. I love that. He did that. There's literally. There's a video out there. If I had it, it I would show it to you. I don't have it.
Speaker 3:There's an organic thing about it, it's very organic as fuck.
Speaker 1:He literally posed up to somebody. He's on his bike, bro. I think. I believe he was on Sunset. I think he was in LA. No, not Sunset. He was on what's that boulevard that connects Venice Beach to fucking Santa Monica. Cole was there riding his bike.
Speaker 3:Bro was just out there chilling and I guess someone maybe it was venice boulevard and he stopped.
Speaker 1:I think it was, and he stopped. He's like man, aren't you enjoying this weather? He's like la weird as fuck. He says right there in the camera he's like la weird as fuck, but I love this weather, yeah, and I call you're my biggest fan. He's like hey, bro, really I do appreciate that. Please don't think I don't. I don't acknowledge that I love that, you love, thank you. He says that, but he's like but how do you feel about today, though? Man, you like this weather? I'm fucking with his weather as well as he. I love how he just smoothly transitioned that. He was like now, don't he's like? He made sure he let them know. I, I see what you're saying, thank you, but how's your day? He asked a person like that. How's your day, though? Let me ask you how you're doing, you know?
Speaker 3:how I'm doing.
Speaker 1:How long was that conversation it was? It was brief, but I will say at least he was at enough time to be, like you, enjoying this weather. I'm loving this shit. But, as you were saying, but pull over there for a minute and really get to know that person.
Speaker 2:Why not Shit you got?
Speaker 1:all the money in the world, ain't no one going to tell you you got a good ass point. I like what you said.
Speaker 3:You can't do it to everybody. They work for you. You can't do it to everybody and I'm like bro, like I know you didn't tell no one else at my level this Like I appreciate that you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That you even trust me with this information. That's how you know it's genuine, bro, one of my favorite actors. One of my favorite actors I'm not gonna say his name, but one of my favorite actors, bro, that would pull me aside and yeah.
Speaker 3:And I just listened, bro, and he was telling me I'm just like, bro, like. I'm glad that he did that to me, bro, because like, look, I'm wrong, like I still admired him as a, as an actor. You know what I'm saying, but I'm like there's not. It's not often this happens. It's not often that it happens but it's not like impossible either. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, you were like bro. They're scared of people coming out after their fucking money, what they've built.
Speaker 3:So, they're very selective of who they fucking bring in right, because it's like fuck, like you're just going to say.
Speaker 1:That's a win for you then.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you gave them the energy where they felt secure enough. Yeah, he doesn't want nothing moving for more time. Yep.
Speaker 3:He don't want no pay for this, and that's what I said he would ask, like about my name and everything.
Speaker 1:Bro, they probably cherish that more than you know, man.
Speaker 3:He asked about my name and everything and I was like bro, like you actually know about my name, because my name is like, it's like a historical name and shit, and I'm like, oh shit, like that's fucking dope, like he actually thought about like my name and shit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:He's like that's probably breath of fresh air for you, because you see so many plastic ones. You're like, damn, it's nice to have someone that I was can relate to you on a human level, bro, yeah and it's like, and it's like I know some of his family too.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying but it's like if, if I'm ever graced enough or blessed enough to get up to that, to that, to that level, I know who to fuck with you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm saying, Like I know who I can invite to my house. What's?
Speaker 3:up bro, I know who I can invite to my house to have a good time, like hey man bro, you know what I'm saying, like because because I mean me personally like what's it called Entertainment? That is something that I, you know, I already know, like I do music and shit. You know what I'm saying so I've always love to do that shit, but wait, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:It's a big deal. You just divulge that publicly. What?
Speaker 3:you know, I'm saying like seeing that shit though, but like, but like seeing that shit though, like, like in the flesh, I'm like okay, like there's. No, I respect it. Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:no, and that's cool that you because you I mean he said something you want to be a part of right you do, you do your music oh yeah you want to.
Speaker 1:It's what you want to be part of this right. So it's like man, when you see that there's people at that level that can be real with you, it's like you said. Like you said, my circle is still going to be small. Yeah, I reached those goals. I'm going to have individuals that I work with, sure, but I'm gonna have individuals that I fuck with that are going to come to my house, be in my inner circle, and the ones that are going to be around me, for because I know that they, they're not there just for that reason. They've been there before.
Speaker 3:There was nothing when it was dirt like bro that was a really genuine bro, when the ones, when they're calling you by name, yeah like hey blah blah, blah. It's like you know my first name.
Speaker 1:First of all that's wild, bro, and they're calling you. That's cool as fuck what the?
Speaker 3:fuck bro.
Speaker 1:And it's like did you experience that while you fucking shoe?
Speaker 3:in the breeze, bro, and I'm just like bro, like I feel like it's crazy bro like what's up, man, how you doing?
Speaker 3:yeah, bro, like he cuts out yeah but, I'm just like what the fuck like? What's up bro? Like like males and females bro yeah I'm just like yo, like it's. It's kind of like one of those things where, like you'll, you'll like, think about it and like and like. Of course this is my ego, but it's like, it's like that's where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, with these people you know what I'm saying In this level. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I don't think that's the ego thing, man, you can say it's ego.
Speaker 3:But Everyone has a dream of that Not everybody, but some people have a dream of, like that's where I'm supposed to be. Yeah, you know what I'm supposed to be, and it doesn't necessarily have to be rich, but it's like on a higher level.
Speaker 1:Amongst these people yeah, Because you don't necessarily Amongst this crowd, Because the thing is rich is very subjective, right you?
Speaker 2:can be rich monetarily, but you can also be a genius right Einstein right.
Speaker 3:Rich as fuck, right. He may not have been a billionaire, but he saved the fucking world. He was one of the minds that was part of saving the world in World War II Nah, facts Atomic bomb too right. So there's different types.
Speaker 1:One of the minds that crafted the atomic bomb, bro.
Speaker 3:So there's different types of wealth. I think a lot of the greatest types of wealth are obviously relationships you know what I'm saying Legacy and stuff like that, but of course, what you can also bring to the world. You know, I just wish, wish that obviously that my life didn't go the way it did, because I'll for sure have sunk my teeth way into that shit and just fucking take it all the way and that's why I asked you, and that's why I asked you.
Speaker 1:You know, do you think that having that connection is an intro?
Speaker 3:it could be possibly an intro to that world, it could be I think it's possible, because I think, look, look, I think I think you could, I think that one of them liked you enough At the guard house they would have been like hey man, roll up to the spot.
Speaker 1:We're having a spot. Come chill with us, come talk with us, man.
Speaker 3:Oh no, I've had that, but what? I'm saying is like I mean, but other than that, though.
Speaker 1:Have you ever had anything Deeper than that happen? Like, hey man, I really fuck with you bro.
Speaker 3:I want to make you A like that it's. It's a business thing, bro.
Speaker 1:It's a business sometimes they'll invite you up there and then that's all. That's where it ends. Yeah, you might not even see them.
Speaker 3:You don't enjoy the festivities and shit, right well you might chill and shit, but it's just like okay, y'all just chilling. You know what I'm saying? You gotta understand too. Is like these, at this level, bro, it sucks. But it's like they're always thinking about the next thing, that's bringing in the fucking check.
Speaker 3:So it's like so it's like. It's like, it's like, if you come in twos, it's like, oh, even better, okay, like he's cool and and we can make money together. You always, always think about that. Like they're always trying to make money. Just look, think about it. But mansions and shit, that's just not cheap. You know, I'm saying all these cars. You know I'm saying chartered planes. That's not cheap. It's not cheap at all, bro. That's why they're always do you always see these folks got a hundred movies under their belt, bro, and they're still broke. You know what I'm saying? Like they're still. You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying Not all of them obviously you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:There's very few that are broke you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Am I behind you or are you up here?
Speaker 3:I'm ahead of you, bro. You're definitely ahead of but uh, what's it called? Where was I at um I? Threw you off my bad dog, it's all good, nah, but it's always about the money. You know, I'm saying not, not always, but it's like. It's like if you can make a genuine connection, no one really ignores a genuine connection they can't.
Speaker 1:I think you know why. Any level.
Speaker 3:I think it's because it's a feeling oh yeah, so like, so, like it doesn't matter what lifestyle you're in bro Criminal lifestyle If you make any lifestyle when you make a connection with an individual bro or like an imprint you know, what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It's felt right. So when that happens, bro. It's like there's one of those things where, like if people just knew the future, they'd be able to anticipate this shit and be able to capitalize on it. You know, I'm saying sometimes you really don't know, and it can come down to what's happening like man this.
Speaker 1:I'll be even practical, even like very simple. With it you'd be like man this girl is. This is the back part of that too man, you're like man she just seems cool as fuck. But that shit could be. You know, you don't know how it's gonna turn out. It always starts out cool, it always does, and then you're like fuck bro why did I go down this road, bro?
Speaker 3:I had man.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that's my particular situation, but I'm saying that that can easily happen to somebody else and it's, and there's been moments where in the past relationships I've had that's definitely been the case. Yeah, clearly, I mean you wouldn't have exes off the record, bro.
Speaker 3:I I mean, obviously I'm not gonna watch everything no I could have had. I could have had a upper echelon. Like I had a brief moment bro, a brief moment bro sorry guys, you don't get it there's actual general. There's actual genuine connection bro yeah, and you felt it too. Yeah, and it was just like fuck, it's like all right, fine, don't without saying the name.
Speaker 1:Did you? Nah, you didn't hit that shit. Nah, I didn't get too, bro, I would've been like pulled around the guard house. Yeah, just because I'll be her fucking shit sideways you gotta think about it.
Speaker 3:It's like there was, it was the. In my opinion, right, it was the sorry, that's part of me feedback it was the, the statuses, right, I'm just this.
Speaker 1:She's aware and you're aware.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm aware, but it's like, I'm like what am I going to?
Speaker 1:do. That don't mean shit, though, when it comes to pipe, what's the matter? You're getting smacked.
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying, but like she's upper echelon, like super upper echelon, you know where it's like oh, like, who's he?
Speaker 1:no, that's not by the headline who is he, but what I?
Speaker 3:think is like you know, sometimes, bro, they, they look at that too much where it's like, oh, like, they're not gonna be good for my image who care?
Speaker 1:and it's like bro. So okay, because you're right. You know what?
Speaker 3:unfortunately, bro, these fuckers are ninjas sometimes, or you have the have the press. No, or this, sorry, or this. They're not going to be good for my image or they might surpass me.
Speaker 1:Maxine potential. That happens too, yeah that could.
Speaker 2:That happens too.
Speaker 3:I don't doubt that Imagine if what's his name, Kevin Federline was a fucking singer.
Speaker 1:Or like you said imagine I gave him 15 minutes of fame and they blow up over that shit, bro.
Speaker 3:Imagine Kevin Federline that's a good one. Yeah, imagine if he was fucking Kevin Federline.
Speaker 3:that's a good point Imagine if this fool could fucking sing like Bieber or Usher, bro, he'd be on a different level. He'd be like, oh shit, like this fool's better than Britney Spears, blah, blah, blah, this and that. Like he can do all this mind. Fuck up there, bro. And that's probably why they move the way they move with that shit, bro. They move really slick bro.
Speaker 3:However, people make mistakes. Okay, of course, you know what I'm saying. They move slick, but the thing is, because they want to associate with people as well, they have to take the risk to go out. But see, man, they're going out like fucking Batman and shit. Right, you know what I'm'm saying. 2 am and shit, they go tinting windows. You know what I'm saying? That's true. They have a secretive bro, like, yeah, they are. They come back to the fucking bat cave. Right, it's like man, fuck, you're crazy at all. But the people out there, they're like oh, that, that, that, that's a nice car and it's like man, I know whose car that is you know who's in that car, you know because me, bro, I remember.
Speaker 3:I mean obviously they have new cars now, I'm sure of it, but at the time I had plates memorized, I had all kinds of share. I'm just like, oh yeah, that's them, and I was sometimes.
Speaker 1:I'll see some of them around and I feel like a lot of them stay away from the weekends when they go out to do shit. No, because they know wrong really wrong they bro every.
Speaker 3:Look at that level, bro.
Speaker 1:You're on a 365 day vacation, okay, must be there is no fucking clocking in exactly no, no, I'm glad you said you own the no.
Speaker 3:I'm glad you said that no I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you said that, because the reality I feel is is the case is like what you would go wait for the weekend to go experience. They'll do one on tuesday, every day. You see what I'm saying every day so so I'm saying where I was going with that? No where I was going with that and where I was going with that is like. So the likelihood of running into one of them on a Saturday or Sunday is probably slim to none right.
Speaker 3:None is necessarily slim to none, but just don't be surprised. It's like, bro, think about it. Bro, you got the freedom to do whatever the fuck you want. I feel like going out. Okay, I'll go. I wanna sleep all day. I'll sleep all day. Yeah, I wanna do this all day. I'll do this all day. I wanna go to fucking Tahiti randomly. I'll go to Tahiti. I got a plane down in fucking Van Nuys. I'm going to fucking. I'm going to fucking Tahiti. I'm going to fucking Tokyo, like that's how it is. It's the instant. It's literally free, will you?
Speaker 2:know what I mean, that's that's free will manifested right there that's just that's okay.
Speaker 3:I'll say this being rich being rich is having is like you have like for for for a time, unless you do some fucking such shit, you have you have unrestricted free will, like you can do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, like, and you're still making money because you have businesses, you have investments, you have all kinds of shit.
Speaker 3:So there's a certain there's a threshold, bro. Once you pass that, you just keep going up as long as you're still making money, because you have businesses, you have investments, you have all kinds of shit. So there's a threshold, bro. Once you pass that, you just keep going up as long as you're fucking smart with it.
Speaker 1:No, you're not wrong. You just keep going up Once you do that you'll be straight For sure.
Speaker 3:So if you ever hit the lottery, bro, invest that shit, no facts. Live as if you were making the same wages that you're going to live. Your bad wealth is going to last forever. That's fair, you know, I'm saying. But that's how they do it too, because they're also they all, they all have kids, you know saying they have families and of course they got vultures too. So they gotta fend off all this shit. So they're, they're in a, they're in a very specific bubble where they're on guard, but they still want to enjoy life. Right, but they, they figured out that they, they can't enjoy life with everybody anymore. They have to do it. They have to be very selective. And it sucks, because why should my wealth affect who I associate with?
Speaker 3:But it does it does, and not only that in this world where people now can get paid for offenses, even just offenses that aren't even proven, why wouldn't a scumbag want to exploit that Someone?
Speaker 1:you interacted with erected with Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3:Sometimes it's righteous right when someone was actually wrong by someone who's a rich scumbag, right In this situation. Yeah Well, we don't know for sure if it's a situation, but it happens, it happens bro. So that's the dilemma, bro. So it's like I understand the fucking dilemma between the two Because it's like with Jay-Z, I respect him as an artist and as a person, I idolize him Like bro. That's for every album. That's why this situation is so crazy.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying. But me, I don't think he did it right, I don't either. But let's say he came out of that he did. It would fucking hurt me, bro. It would hurt, like my opinion, like damn, like what did I miss?
Speaker 1:obviously I didn't know, but it's like fuck, well, you see, we again. It goes back to what we were saying earlier. Like you know, you idolize, if we, if we idolize a particular person, we, we forget to remember to sometimes and this is, I'm victim of this well as well, actually, what people like? Oh, yeah, for sure, brother, thank you I'm also, you know, in my case, like, obviously, I used to, like, I used to love kanye bro before j cole, and I was like oh, you're a big j cole. Yeah, j cole's my favorite, my favorite rapper now, but before j cole, and even j cole, I'll suffer this with him too. Like, you're victim to thinking that what they portray on camera is how they are 24 7 and it's not. The reality is, they're not. But before cole, it was kanye west. Holy shit, look what happened. Look what he revealed you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying, and honestly I'm gonna say this straight up on the record, bro, I'm I'm not hurt, but I'm bothered by kanye because yeah, that was my motherfucker bro, his first four albums. I loved him, bro, that was my favorite fucking rapper. Bro 100 back in the day, growing up before cole was a thing before j cole, you made his spit and splash whatever you want to call it. Kanye west was my favorite bro, like whatever show my age. But then I saw what he was and how he was showing himself and I'm like man. Now I'm starting to get a glimpse into how you are really outside of all your shit, bro. Like there's a lot of conflict there and therapy and god knows what else you fucking need man, but you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like holy shit, connie, one of my favorites and it started to reflect in his music bro, I'm like what is going on with this dude. Like you man, connie is one of my favorite artists too. Yeah, he's actually the one that got me into fucking like production. You know I'm saying sure, but I do understand.
Speaker 1:Like once his mom passed, he snapped yeah and that's the turning point after, after, after 808's heartbreak.
Speaker 3:Yeah well, it's not the same bro, he's just different.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying yeah, so that's why we say his first four, you know were my personal favorites, then his mom after dark twisted fantasy.
Speaker 3:He just kept them grounded, and the thing is about it. What here's the, I think what fucked with I agree agree, though I think his mama was turning point. What really fucked with him is the fact that she got it because of a surgery. Yeah, breast augmentation, right, or something like that, I think so something like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, something went wrong, but he funded it.
Speaker 3:It was obviously because of his success, like that, like she could do it, he was. So he has a guilt about it.
Speaker 1:So now it's like fuck.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? So his internal battle, who knows what he's going through? Right, I'm not going to say what he's going through, but it's like if it was me, I would probably be fucked up too. Like knowing him, I'm like fuck, like that was my fault, like what do I have?
Speaker 1:to live for and he was close to his mama.
Speaker 3:What do I, you? He obviously wants to do, right, you know, but he's human.
Speaker 1:You know everyone's more, everyone mourns differently and shit like that, our shortcomings, all the ways of you're right, so that that's true. That's a good way. There's a pretty good perspective to present. But anyway, before we continue with that man, is there any? Before we move on to our last quick topic, is there anything else you want to add to the whole jay-z situation? Last, last, last thoughts on that before we move on to the to the I he's innocent.
Speaker 3:I hope me too. I hope the allegations aren't true me too. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I love his music man. You know what I mean. I don't wish him downfall on any man bro, even who their fucking friends are.
Speaker 3:I don't know them the way they know them you know like, I hope he still gets to do the Super Bowl and all that shit, but so do I. I just hope that this stuff, you know, I hope he gets exonerated and he's not. Obviously he's not, you know, in jail or anything, but I hope no. The charges.
Speaker 1:He's still with his family, but he's still got to explain that to his daughter, like he said in his thing.
Speaker 3:You know because it's like if you really you don't know, you don't know.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I was about to say that. Sorry, I don't want to cut you off for you.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, you just you just don't know. So it's like if it, if it comes out to be true, like it's just like damn, like I mean, I'm not, I can't, you know, support him, yeah, you can't subscribe to it anymore.
Speaker 1:I can't, and that sucks because he had a lot of good—he mentioned him earlier.
Speaker 3:He's the one rapper bro where I'm just like bro, like his style— I remember I used to try to emulate his fucking style too much Did you?
Speaker 1:I was trying to like— and you would do your stuff.
Speaker 3:I was just trying to fucking like really see where he was coming from. You know what I'm saying. How do you do this? And I'm thankful on the sidebar no, no, I hear you. You kind of really analyzed, right, you broke him down you look at the analytics, the way he writes and shit like all that shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah but what I will say, bro, is I'm actually happy and I'm thankful that you shared a little bit of that with the public right now.
Speaker 2:I know you haven't told too many people you do your music, man, so thank you for doing that, bro, and maybe eventually, if you guys are lucky in the future, maybe, maybe uh furious will show you some of his music.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna push it too hard because that's up to him, but the fact that you hey, we're showing some progress, the fact that you're even talking about it, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You didn't want to even do that. I waited for this man to divulge that information. I knew about it beforehand, but since he took the liberty of doing that shit right now to tell everybody, thank you for letting them know, man, because you are talented brother and I know it sounds biased as fuck, but I know how you are and I know you got something there, bro, appreciate it no doubt no.
Speaker 1:But I was saying, bro, like I really hope that you know when you're ready if you want to show them some shit, bro, I absolutely put it in here, man, because you show me some stuff. I know that you're when you're ready to. Oh yeah, you know. I don't want to put too much focus on it, but it's cool man. He's got some talent. You're good, bro, and it's like you get inspired by who you grew up listening to you know I'm saying so no doubt that's.
Speaker 1:You did your thing, bro, and I'm excited for the world gets to hear it. But I mean, you know, all that being said, it's a tough situation when you, you know, you're inspired people, the people that inspired you right to do what you're doing with music. You see them in situations like this, you're like, well, fuck, I don't want to give him the credit, right, god willing. You know, I blow up one day. I'm at the breakfast club or I'm, you know, talking to ebro, whatever the case, right?
Speaker 1:you know I'm saying, or even fucking man, ebro, hey, shout out to ebro man you know, or even sway bro who?
Speaker 3:whatever, whatever hip-hop form, you see yourself in front of right fucking rosenthal, whatever rosenthal rosenberg rosenberg or rosenberg you know what I'm saying and rosenberg is cool, bro, you know what I'm saying. He's actually. He's actually like the voice of reason, bro no, I agree, he is cool as fuck.
Speaker 1:I agree, I agree, I like that. That's true, he has a fucking different like you know what I'm saying. The hip-hop relate. You know I'm saying the hip-hop uh, uh, it's people you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:he bros like hip-hop. He bros like hip-hop.
Speaker 1:He's like man you know what I'm saying. I like. That's what I love about him, bro, and that's why you like him too I'm sure he's cool as fuck.
Speaker 3:Charlamagne, charlamagne, but angie's left so angie did leave.
Speaker 1:I don't know how breakfast club gonna be now, but you still have I mean it's gonna be straight it'll be all right, yeah, they got what's. I don't wanna get the name wrong and she didn't have a good um who's the main fucking host over there?
Speaker 3:you gotta.
Speaker 1:It's ebro, it's no, no, no, a breakfast club or somebody else. Charlamagne dj envy my bad yeah, that's right, dj envy and angie and charlamagne, that's, that's the breakfast club, right, but no, I'm saying ebro got his own show on hot 97, I believe yeah, I'm wrong, brother, my bad yeah, but dj envy, you know all those cats, bro.
Speaker 1:Point is, if you're in a situation where you're talking to them, I wouldn't want those interviews that you're having. And then when they ask you, if they ask you right, if those hip hop personalities were to ask you what was your, one of your inspirations, you're reluctant to say Jay-Z, if this shit sticks.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That would suck, would you still do it?
Speaker 2:Would you still?
Speaker 3:name him good.
Speaker 1:I respect that, because that's before, and that's the reality that built you oh yeah, that's the truth.
Speaker 3:It's like look, look, look. I'm not in charge of what he does with his shit. I'm not in charge of that shit. So it's like it is what it is, but it's like it's, it's, it's just, it's disheartening, yeah when you do find it would hurt to be like man if it is like valid. You know what I'm saying. It's like damn. I put my inspiration in someone who's like evil. You know what I'm saying. So that's the only thing about it. But like his body, work to me is dope, to me is fucking dope my most favorite album, bro, reasonable Doubt Blueprint.
Speaker 3:Blueprint 3 Black Album to me Magna Carter was. It was cool, it was more like modernist but like it wasn't terrible.
Speaker 1:Reasonable Doubt.
Speaker 3:Blueprint, the Blueprint series, and then fucking Black Album like that was, like my shit, those were his definitely top top notch albums.
Speaker 1:I know people involved with that shit too.
Speaker 2:So it's like it makes it even more, more like kind of personable too. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I know you got an insight.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like I know, yeah I know like I got connections with the producer who worked on one of the songs too, so it's like it's dope to hear, like just you want to love bros, no, when you can be inspired by an artist like that, right, but you also have your, your placement.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm saying that you have meaning, meaning, it has influence and it shows meaning. Okay, well, I guess what I'm trying to say is what's awesome about that is that you're not just a fan of hip-hop, you actually have something to bring to it. Right, if you were whack at rhymes, bro, it would show. Let's be honest. But from what I've been able to hear, I'm like yo, you're able to. You know I'm saying articulate it, but also make it your own, like, okay, I was hell of inspired by this person yeah, but I'm gonna bring my little fucking.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying and you can hear it, bro. That's what. That's what I'm trying to say. That's what I'm getting at. Appreciate it I love. No, I mean that, brother for sure. All right, believe me, bro, I'm a hip-hop head, my damn self. So if, if I didn't feel something was refreshing, like damn dog, you actually have something, you have a say in the conversation. It clearly shows who you were inspired by, but you have your own flavor to add to the mix, and that's what I love about it, brother. So if I could say it here, man, on this platform, now that you said it out loud and I'm public, though.
Speaker 1:Keep doing what you're doing, and when you're ready to show it to our audience and to everybody, we'll be here for it, bro, and I can't wait to hear a project from you, because there is definitely something there, man I appreciate that don't suppress yourself too long, brother, because I I know it, they're gonna be like oh, you're hearing the boys I'm working man yeah, fuck all that.
Speaker 2:I know what I heard. Thank you.
Speaker 3:I'm glad to hear that I just work in silence. I work in silence though Facts. I respect it.
Speaker 1:Y'all hearing it here first again, brother, I just want to give you a flower, bro, because that's the first step, in my opinion, and I mean, and show people what you work. I know you haven't shown anything yet, but to even speak on it, you know what I'm saying, cause.
Speaker 2:I know you were so tightly knit.
Speaker 1:I'm just a very appreciative of you even mentioning it, bro.
Speaker 3:You know like I'm very private, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yes, you are brother, and just so y'all know, for the record it was hard to get it out of this man I was when you played it, if you don't mind me saying when you played it for me and my brother. We got to hear it. We had JJ on you guys remember JJ? He's been on the past couple episodes in the past. We had him on those few episodes. We had a nice moment off the record with Furious here and he showed us some of his music. And I found out that day that you did music. Remember that shit? I was like man, this is very that's like bro. Why are you holding this back? Man, like I'm just being real with him because he knows, man, if I had felt some other way about it, I would have done it, he would have let you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 100%. But the fact that I was like man, but why haven't you? And even like this is bro, like what's up, man? You were like, you guys had your little conversation. I won't divulge how that went, but what I will say is that when I was like man, bro, why have you held this back? This is, this is good man. Yeah, I'm not ready yet. I'll do it, I'll show everybody when I'm ready, but I'm only telling y'all. I haven't told many. So to me, I took that very, very, you know, to heart, didn't mention anything on the, on the podcast till now. Again, I wouldn't even shit, I wouldn't even said it today if you didn't mention it you know the fact that you did.
Speaker 1:I was like, hey, man, I'm gonna let them know. From what I was able to hear, and I'm sure you've gotten better since then. I know y'all sharpened the tool, bro. You know what I'm saying. Like it's just like, all right you heard some old shit wait till you hear me.
Speaker 1:Now you thought that, good, Wait till I show you some new shit I've been working on. Yeah, I believe that man and you know, and just so y'all know, there's been times here and there where Furious has been like hey, man, I bought a new mic. You know I'm working on some shit. Hope I digress. The point I'm getting at is I hope that one day, when you're really, when you're willing and ready to divulge a project to the world, we can review it on this show man, I would love to do that.
Speaker 1:That's the first thing I'm gonna do I appreciate that yeah thank you for sure, bro, and again, let's show them love one more time, y'all, because that that that takes a lot, and we appreciate you, bro. I really mean that, man, honestly. I mean that with love, bro, you know, but I you know. With that being said, we go back to the topic. But hey, that's. It means a lot, bro, and I know he's one of your influences. I hope he gets you know. This shit's not true.
Speaker 1:I really hope this bitch is lying. I don't want to call her a bitch. If you really were a victim, I'm sorry, you know. Hope the facts come to light you know, with that you got any final thoughts before we move on to the last part here.
Speaker 3:I hope she's lying. You know what I mean? That's everything we said, right, like bro. Like Jay-Z's done so much for his fucking legacy, bro.
Speaker 1:It's like man, billionaire all that because of that, yeah, fuck bro, like, and I think that's why and I have faith just because he was like show yourself, fuck all that like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's a dark side to that.
Speaker 1:We were delved into that, yeah, but let's say it is like show yourself, call the facts. Where's your proof? You want to say I did this? Go ahead, say your name and say how it happened and show your proof and we'll move on from there. I think he said that and if there's truth to that right, and he said it with with like conviction yeah, go ahead. You'll shit. You'll surprise me even shit. If you have something, if you have some tangible shit, you know what I mean. I hope that's the case, because you know when you're in that position, you're on top of the world. Oh, yeah, go ahead. I would love to see you manifest some tangible shit.
Speaker 3:Let's see it, because honestly I hope that's the case that like the thing is bro, like at that level bro show some hope in the world. Man like you know, bro, like when they lose bro yeah, it's not like they just fucking fall, like that it's not like they like fall automatically down to fucking these like living conditions, right facts, but they do lose a big chunk, they do they're like I can't, I can't really fly to paris like that today.
Speaker 1:You know, I, I mean.
Speaker 3:Yeah, doesn't mean like that they can't, but this time it's actually going to be money that they spend. You know what I'm?
Speaker 2:saying Nothing that's coming back you know, no for sure, because a lot of this shit like people who are tied with them are going to cut ties.
Speaker 3:All businesses, target fucking Sam's Club, whatever. Jesse Penny oh no, we Even what's her name? Beyonce. Now they might show her little favoritism because she's Beyonce.
Speaker 1:She's her own entity.
Speaker 3:She's going to have a little, yeah, but still she's going to lose deals too, because she's married, she's going to feel it. Woo Damn you know what I'm saying? I didn't even think of that. It's a big deal. Yo, I didn't think of that. Blue, Ivy Carter, the whole thing.
Speaker 2:So the thing is I really hope that this is not true because if it is bro they're all fucked because guilty by association.
Speaker 3:Now don't get me wrong. They can still distance themselves from him, but it's going to be a tainted legacy Because it's dad and it's husband, you know what I'm saying, you know what I mean, you know what I'm saying. They're going to have to come out with some really, really dope shit.
Speaker 1:That's going to hurt their family.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying? Yeah, because the thing is about it, bro. At the end of the day, music is a product, it's art and a product.
Speaker 2:It is art, it's not just.
Speaker 3:The thing is that the consumer is not looking at it as a product.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, no doubt.
Speaker 3:They're, they see how much, how much the album costs, right, but they they appreciate the art, but the person who's making it went into it. But the person who's making is like how much, how many sales I got? How is it? How is it resonating with with people? How is it doing?
Speaker 1:That's probably the first few questions they have that's the thing they're going to be like. What am? I paying and actual sales here.
Speaker 3:But that's where the discrepancy comes from. When it's like, people are like oh man, where's all the real music at, where's the shit that we can relate to? But the thing is everyone's different, bro. Some people like fuck shit, some people like that bullshit. Some people like the fucking McDonald's shit. They like it.
Speaker 1:I'm too.
Speaker 3:I don't know if I'm saying tracks like that I do. I'm not gonna say I don't, I'm just strictly conscious. There's no way, I'm a human. There's some, there's some ratchet shit I like, but it's not. It's not a lot, yeah, but you're not you're not like yeah, bro, you're not.
Speaker 1:You're not.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean, you're not like I can appreciate the art even in, it shows them what you've shown me you don't have but as far as but you, but you cannot understand and enjoy it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like, yeah, like entertainment wise, like what I what I listen to like I can still appreciate it.
Speaker 3:But I'm saying, like you know, I'm saying it might, it might no doubt it might fit the mood and it actually might give me ideas, or it's like okay, like yeah, I didn't think of it like this. You know, I'm saying because you to say that it's an experience for sure, the ones who aren't fake, obviously I can't like count them, but the ones who are real, it's like okay, like Boozy, or whatever, like that Boozy, you know what I'm saying fucking Boozy bro, you got you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Webby, you got Boozy you got Webby. Kevin Gates, you, you got what's it called Ace Hood.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Okay, he's dropping names. Meek Mill, I love Ace Hood.
Speaker 3:Disregarding the whole fucking Diddy.
Speaker 2:Party shit.
Speaker 3:There's such shit, meek Mill's dope.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying I like that, I agree. You know what?
Speaker 3:I'm saying I agree. So Absol K-Dot Schoolboy J they're all solid, bro. Every name you just said they have their good music, man, and there's more unnamed that I haven't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:I love that you named Ace Hood, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:I'm falling back to that, bro. He's been how many projects?
Speaker 1:has that motherfucking dropped.
Speaker 3:He's been looked over to me, bro, bro, ever since fucking like ever since Bugatti, I feel like he's just been.
Speaker 1:Hey man, I know you don't know who the fuck we are if you watch this podcast.
Speaker 2:Thank you exactly.
Speaker 1:Ace Hood, bro, mad respect, that's a hip hop artist right there. Not that the other guys we named aren't. They are, of course but this man has dropped so many motherfucking projects I can't keep up with his shit, bro. Ace Hood's dropped what damn mixtapes alone he's dropped lot, bro you get the point.
Speaker 3:But the thing is, bro, I just respect that man's contribution to hip-hop bro for sure. When you said that name I was like that's how I know my boy not that I doubted you before I'm just saying they hear you say that I was like you know, like that's what's up. Yeah, no, like you as a, as an artist, I think you you're, you have to listen to other artists no, no doubt you can't be versatile.
Speaker 1:That name group was bro, it's all over the place.
Speaker 3:It's great, you can't be an artist without knowing who the artist is.
Speaker 1:I was about to say that, just because you ain't making the type of shit they're making, you still make your brand, but you're inspired by it. You can still fuck with it, you can still enjoy it.
Speaker 3:Okay bro, I'm not a gangster.
Speaker 1:No, no doubt.
Speaker 3:I can listen to gangster rap, of course.
Speaker 1:You can appreciate it. Shit, I was a big game fan. I didn't know nothing about Bloods bro, but shit, I love this music.
Speaker 3:That's not my lifestyle Facts. You know what I'm saying Other shit. I can definitely relate to. Doesn't mean I haven't been into no crazy shit.
Speaker 1:What if he was in? Exactly Just because it, hey man, even if it wasn't gang related, he even said even like shit man. I talk about scenarios like it happened to a regular man. Right, there be some shit on the street and he ain't no bitch, he ain't no pussy and motherfucker going to stand for his name.
Speaker 3:He's just not affiliated, he don't need a color.
Speaker 1:Bro when he said that I was like game three bro he was like you're going to stand on yourself as a man, you ain't a blood, you ain't a crit, because you over there, as a man showing your flags as a human being, bro, Like you ain't, I don't got to rep in no color. You over here is overstepping your boundaries Like I could have a situation that happened that was gang related. That happened to a regular man and he stood on his ten toes and he came out of it alive. He came out of it like a G, even though he ain't repping no set. You know what I'm saying? That's the point. I'm to see that and hear that from someone who was very rooted in something like that.
Speaker 1:For him to acknowledge that and be like I still salute you. You may not carry a flag and wave it, but I still salute you as a fucking man-to-man. You were on some gangster shit, bro, and that happens in our daily life sometimes, bro.
Speaker 3:In different ways, and that's not to disrespect any of the OGs.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no doubt. Whatever you said, set you recommend or?
Speaker 2:like any artist you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Like Pac, big L, big E, you know what I'm saying. Like those Jam Master J, you know what I'm saying. Mc Hammer yeah, no doubt you know. From LL Cool J, you know. Doug E Fresh, yeah, all kinds you know. So it's just, it's art. You know what I'm saying 100%. So it's like you have to listen to this shit, you have to you know what I'm saying. If you really want to be versatile and there's more, because it's just going to make you a better artist.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you what, talib Qualey? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Talib Mos Def, all of them, man, he's a big one, bro.
Speaker 1:That's the contributor right, they just won't say it. Bro, did you get inspired by them? Of course, bro. Have you heard?
Speaker 3:have you heard Aesthetic, the album by fucking Mos Def yes, yes, I have, no, no, I have.
Speaker 1:I have heard it. Fucking Jim bro. Yes, I know what you're talking about, and that was when he. Aesthetic bro, he went. That came out back in the.
Speaker 3:He went into his, to his jazz experimental era with that kind different vibes you know different type of songs.
Speaker 1:You don't notice, I think, when you come into that genre, bro, because you know how. What's the word I'm looking for? You know how? Um, how do you describe that, bro? I wouldn't say it's objective, but you know how? Very part man, that doesn't even sound right anyway, I'm just gonna say it.
Speaker 3:What are we talking about? Particular your jazz, just jazz in particular the the genre of jazz right, okay, I feel like ah, fuck it.
Speaker 1:Subjective is probably the best way to describe it. How subjective that genre is right, because people are like, oh, you used too many trumpets, or no, you didn't use enough of this. It's a genre of music that makes you feel right.
Speaker 3:That's the thing Jazz is about.
Speaker 1:the music I was about to say that, and if you wanted to use other trombones because that's how you felt in that moment, that's how it is, or whatever instrument you use, right, because it's very instrumental. You've heard jazz. There's no lyrics in it, it's just instruments and it sounds amazing. I really feel like bro and I'm going to go on some fucking weird hippie shit right now. I feel like jazz is very, very rhythmic, beautiful, amazing painting that you can do with sound. Yeah, if I had to describe jazz, it's a fucking.
Speaker 2:It's like you took a paintbrush roll and you just blah, blah, blah. It's like okay To add lyrics to that, oh, shit.
Speaker 3:You're playing with a you know, jazz is like okay, jazz is. This is for the.
Speaker 1:I got emotional there.
Speaker 3:Jazz for the PC is what's it called urban classical music yes, okay, yes, that's what.
Speaker 1:That's what I would see it as okay, thanks thanks.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm saying because it does have those nuances.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm saying it's like it's like holy shit, like what the like?
Speaker 3:where's it going? But like you do, feel it.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. You do. It's a vibe, it's a rhythm in your soul, bro, if you're connected with it, but there's a rhythm to it.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm saying the thing about classical music, bro, is that it's it's. There's no drums, there's no snares none of that it's horns strings piano.
Speaker 1:This is that simple and don't think flutes and shit like that, that can take you somewhere. Man bro, I'm sorry man, I'm fucked if we're getting musically connected. You're kind here, bro.
Speaker 3:Hey, man, I love this, I'm loving this vibe, bro, telling you man, man, it's um jazz, jazz is dope. So like me, like when I heard what's it called like pimple butterfly, yeah, I was about to ask you about that.
Speaker 1:I love, I love this. Let's talk about the biggest artist let's talk about the biggest hip-hop artist right now. I love what he did on that shit. You know, so did I like he.
Speaker 3:He fucking took a chance on that, bro walls. People couldn't yeah, yeah that song.
Speaker 1:If these walls could talk, bro, most of them, bro, and he put a lot of jazz in that shit bro.
Speaker 3:He said bro, all right in 95, all right and all right and 95 he had a lot of good and 95 was off of um big steppers.
Speaker 1:I'm tripping wow, but um man but that one's good black of the berry. What's that song?
Speaker 3:that's off of pimpa, though that was off black of the berry, yeah that was on the same album, though we're talking about that one. Oh yeah, that was a jazz album, yeah okay but, um, wait a like, wait a minute. I know I got a few years, but I know Walls.
Speaker 1:If I can be honest with you personally, walls stuck out to me the most jazz wise, you know what I'm talking about. On Walls right of course you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:yeah, I'm saying we don't send some shit, bro, double entendres.
Speaker 1:You know, bubba bubba was slamming man he was slamming walls vocally literally and fucking musically, bro. Of course I know what he's talking about. He says walls but I'm saying that song personally for me and it was a very jazzy vibe yeah, that's the artist jazz you're right, and to pimp a butterfly as an artist. That's a very beautiful sonically. That's why I actually bought it on vinyl recently, actually three days, three days ago.
Speaker 2:I picked it up on vinyl.
Speaker 1:I saw it at Target. I picked that shit up. It's only Kendrick Godwin. I didn't have it on vinyl, but I was, like you know what I really do love this song. I mean, I love the song, love this album for what it did with jazz Because, like I told you, it's such a very. I feel like when you involve lyrics with jazz, you got to be careful, because jazz is already power, already powerful Right.
Speaker 2:Just being by itself, yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying. Like we, we just discussed right now the last 15 minutes or so. It's a. It's like you're taking a paintbrush already and that shit can take you to another planet. Hell yeah Just vibing on what, what you're hearing sound wise, so to and make it bigger and elevate it, elevate it, exactly. So, even though, again, cole, I don't agree with you. Dog, put Negroes to sleep. Nah, dog, that shit to me, bro, if you listen to it. What he added to it lyrically, kendrick, I have to give it to you bro smash.
Speaker 1:I'm not a big Kendrick smash bro, right, would you agree, bro?
Speaker 3:when I heard the album, bro, this is what the album came out. What 2013, 2014? Yeah bro, I was bumming that shit, bro, bro me and my homies in in the car was fucking bumming that shit bro and at the time because of course we all like, did music and shit. We were like bro, like no one knew what to fucking say. Bro, we're just like bro, this fool is dope, you know.
Speaker 1:But at the time no one made and there's more than one tracks and when I'm late, I'm listening within jazz right yeah, but obviously no one made the connection and there's more than one tracks that I'm listening within jazz right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but no one made the connection back then. That's how ahead of his time he was. You know what I'm saying To think about that shit at that time bro, Because think about it bro. At that time everything was trap. Future, oh future.
Speaker 1:You're not wrong, bro. Blah, blah, blah, blah to be alive or some shit.
Speaker 3:It was all that, bro crap shit was the yeah, but I'm not taking nothing from my future because that's just lane. I'm not taking nothing from fucking drake, that's just lane, cool, right. However, it's like people are. The market was so incentivized, not incentivized, but they were so invested ahead of his time. They were so invested in just that that sound. When they heard this and it was good and they're like holy shit, like there's something else. So what do you think it?
Speaker 1:doesn't have to just be this. You asked my question. You know what I mean. He answered my question. It doesn't have to just be this. I like that. You said it was ahead of its time.
Speaker 3:Cause now 100%. Cause now it's like, cause just like, okay, like people like M&M ahead of his time.
Speaker 2:Oh, 100%, you feel me Pac ahead of his time. I love Cube man. All these fools are ahead of their time, pac too.
Speaker 1:My God, those are real lyrics.
Speaker 2:Even Snoop. You know what I'm saying Ahead of his time. Him too, he don't.
Speaker 1:So when people hear this shit they're like what the fuck man, you know, like what does that do to an artist like you? I ask that because I'm not going to make this the official, the official. To me Fucking furious podcast we're going to have to save that for another day, but for you right now. Live as an insight. What does that do to an artist like you when you record? I like the challenge. I like the challenge, I love it, it's just because you know the stuff that we've shared.
Speaker 3:I go through, we all, we both go through some fucking real ass shit. Okay, and I, like me, I love to articulate like you know my, you know, like what I'm going through. So to me it's a challenge, bro, and it's like.
Speaker 3:I like to articulate myself, you know so I embrace that shit To you. Know, so I embrace that shit to me. I like seeing that shit because it's like okay, there's a spot for people like me. You know I'm saying yeah, you know I'm saying like there's actually a chance. Like that just proves to me that people are actually receptive to it if it's, if it's done in the in a good way. You know I'm saying so. You know all you have to do is find out the way for you that's good to art, to art. Articulate that. You know i'm'm saying yeah, so that's the thing. But I think a lot of artists Pour it in the shot bro.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, go ahead. I'm sorry, continue, we're out bro.
Speaker 1:No, we're not.
Speaker 2:Oh shit the hell.
Speaker 1:We are Shit you swear hey, what's my bad? No, let me get your thought out first, because I this shit can wait go ahead.
Speaker 3:Artists who are trying to get paid. Sorry, a lot of times in what I've seen and I could be wrong about this in this day but from what I've seen in the past we're all going off. Oh what's selling? Oh god, I gotta make a trap beat oh.
Speaker 3:I gotta do boom bap, oh I gotta do this, I gotta do that, I gotta copy what they're doing. No, you have to fucking make what resonates with you, whatever stage you're in, but you have to just do that to the best of your ability. So if you're going through, if you look, if you're a fucking depressed individual, speak about that shit, but do be the most authentic about it. Don't try to hide anything. If you got some shit that you're fucking what's it called embarrassed about, or whatever you've been through, speak on that shit. You have to be vulnerable. The vulnerability in music is what makes it so fucking attractive. These people think, oh, it's just so good. No, it's not that it's so good. The person's being vulnerable, they're being open and you're relating to them as a human and that's what connects them?
Speaker 3:that's what connects them. Think about it bro, okay, you know, fucking like you know, okay, burning boy jams and all them, of course okay, if you hear like Afrobeat songs, bro, very vulnerable. You hear them, bro, and you can hear and you can love songs bro, they're vulnerable.
Speaker 2:That's why and you can hear it in the music.
Speaker 3:That's why they connect to them. But people don't want to be vulnerable, they don't.
Speaker 1:They're like they shut down. I'm missing that.
Speaker 3:I'm missing that and they my God. But the thing is the reason why you're not connecting in my appearance, like, okay, you can connect through fucking material shit cool, but it's fucking subterfuge, it's not going to last Absolutely. When you're actually in a human experience. Okay, like a song, like Changes never going to get old, okay, never. People might okay after time I people might like forget in a sense, like okay, like tupac, right, 100 years from now tupac's gonna be a fucking memory.
Speaker 3:Sorry, 100 okay no, I'm sorry, but they'll still play that song time to time, his song. That song's still gonna be fucking playable timeless. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:it's gonna be playing because it's fucking real, so fuck it. I was about to say that it's real, so damn real.
Speaker 3:it's vulnerable bro. It real, it's vulnerable bro.
Speaker 1:He's not holding back, he's not hiding, and that's why he was an amazing artist. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:He doesn't care how you look at him, look at me in any kind of way, you fucking want you know what I respect about Pac the most man is that he didn't give a fuck how I made him look. He knew. Look, dude, if I show y'all my white underbelly shit, bro, soft white underbelly If I show y'all that I know y'all can relate with that shit, it's going to benefit me and I'm not worried about it. I know y'all love me. I love y'all. Fuck it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be, real for you, for y' at least wanted to leave us with what he left us with.
Speaker 3:So, if you can, his vulnerability.
Speaker 1:Thank you, and if you can be a smart enough hip hop listener right and appreciate it, you can know you look past all the gangster, whatever blah blah, you know he does his thing. I'm not mad at that man for being a man, but what I'll say is straight to respect him for being giving you a perspective that everyone can relate to as an everyday man, even if it was some shit, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Like but now he's involving some shit about this, bro. He's giving you a perspective right that you may have heard from absolutely right, but the majority refuse to give you that you think about it the majority of people conceal their they don't want to.
Speaker 1:They conceal their. They don't want to take that same trick like they're like no, like I don't think like that.
Speaker 3:Yes, you do, yeah you. They don't want to take that same trick. They're like no, I don't think like that, yes you do. You just don't want to say it because you're afraid of people pulling it away.
Speaker 1:And I love that he wasn't afraid to do it. You know what I'm saying? Fuck it.
Speaker 3:Look, even though he died, right in a tragic way his legacy is immortal, bro. It's immortal. He's like number one in Hall of Fame. He's the number one rapper, Bro there's no discussion there.
Speaker 1:Number one there's nothing to go against what you're saying. Everyone says Pac bro.
Speaker 3:He's the first rapper to fucking, probably die and be martyred.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, I agree. I 100% agree I think, bro, to be honest with you, I think Pac laid down a legacy that just just flat out sat across the masses in a way that he knew was not only going to get his point across, but was going to live within generations.
Speaker 3:Bro, that's powerful waking people up, bro like bro, think about it, bro.
Speaker 3:It's like, it's like it's like well, okay, like when they say god works in mysterious ways, that's a way, right there. It's like, bro, like it's time. Prime example, bro, you can't Okay don't get me wrong Like, okay, if you don't look up Pac on YouTube or whatever like that, his session's not going to just pop up, right, it's not Well, let's say, you start pulling up Kendrick, right, yeah, after a amount of time Throughout your life Of listening to fucking hip hop. So you're Someone out of that, is gonna, is gonna, tune in. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:Someone's gonna tune in. Someone's gonna tune in. It's like, oh shit, this is what it was back then.
Speaker 3:This is the person, this is the pioneer right here, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:This is the guy. This is that guy.
Speaker 3:When it came to fucking like yeah, actually setting a wave and like actual, actual meaningful wave. Okay, meaningful not not just a style wave, but like a wave of like awakening people to shit he was the first.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he was the first now maybe, okay, granted, maybe there was another rapper before him that set him on the wave, okay, sorry, he didn't make enough big enough impact on us for us to see that. But the one who, the one who impacted pock, that's obviously the fucking goat. Okay, but pock, as far as we know, is the one that has that mantle, right, thanks. So when it comes to artists, bro, I think a lot of it is like it. There's a lot of facets because it comes down to environment, intelligence, what, what you want out of life, what you know, I'm saying, what you, fucking, like, actually aspire to, you know, um, and if the person, the artist, likes bullshit, sorry he's, he's gonna gravitate towards fucking future or some shit, or I'm not saying that's not how I take I know,
Speaker 3:I know because future has some dope songs, but bro like that one song, like you know, I'm saying what's it called, uh, uh, where you was at that was dope.
Speaker 2:That was fucking dope. Future has some dope shit.
Speaker 3:Sorry, future, I didn't mean to just single you out, but let's say, just trap rappers that have no longevity.
Speaker 1:But I don't think oh, hold on. No, I agree, but they have hot streaks.
Speaker 3:They have hot streaks, no doubt, but it? They have hot streaks, no doubt, but it's, it's just in the pocket. It's like okay, it's like that's all it is. Oh, it's a dope song, cool time so no, I love that.
Speaker 1:So why let yourself be confounded right in my opinion, that's we're talking about hip hop.
Speaker 3:We're talking about hip hop and influences so the thing is that they're only living, like for the day they're. They're living for what they can get now because they've been through so much shit, I got you Go ahead. So much shit right when it's like they're in survival mode.
Speaker 3:So let me get your thoughts out, because the best thing is because you have don't get me wrong, you have plenty of good artists that come out of these trenches, right, no doubt? Where these artists realize, okay, there's more to this shit. Obviously I'm in a fucked up place, which you do, but there's more to this shit, so I can do more, right? So some of them.
Speaker 3:See most of the time some of them see a glimpse of the light, some of the light, whatever, right, yeah, and they act on that. And you see that they're either benefits, right, okay, you'll see, like roddy rich right that's a big right saw the light I'm saying, I'm not saying every song is no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:But he saw, he fucking saw enough right. He made an impact To where he knows like okay, it's not all about this, Of course. Right, I can rap about it.
Speaker 3:But it's not all about this. Right yeah, you'll see. Okay, like Meek Mill. Right yeah, him, like he used to fucking do like battle raps in Philly. Right, you'll see footage of him from the past and he's fucking spitting, bro. I'm pretty sure he had no idea where he'd be today. You know what I'm saying. Of course he didn't, but he saw that there was something bigger. He was just like no, I can do more with this. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:The thing about it, bro, is like when you're from the start to finish, it's not the start or finish, it's the journey, it's the fucking, it's the in between. That's really. It's fucked up, and it's like you know what I'm saying, like me and my crew too, like we've had fucked up shit along the way.
Speaker 3:We've all had our mishaps and shit like that. But it's like, how bad do you want it? How bad you want it? How bad do you really want to? Because it's it's, it's um to me. I differ with artists when it comes to like business because, like me, I'm in it for the art. It will be dope to make money off the shit. No doubt it'll be so dope, but I really I want to make.
Speaker 1:Bro, you're beating me to my neck.
Speaker 3:I want to make the art so that people can appreciate the art like I don't want to. I don't want to make make gold money. I don't want to make my gold money. If I can get paid for it, cool. It's hurting your lyrics, but I want someone to understand where I'm coming from. I want to make it. You know what I'm saying. That's what I want to do, okay.
Speaker 1:I respect the fuck out of that. I'm going to go ahead and capitalize, man. Look, if there's one thing you don't know about, aj me myself. Right, I'm going to go ahead and make this?
Speaker 1:obvious as shit. One thing I'm not going to do is I'm never going to disrespect my co-host, no matter who it is. In this case, it's someone I love like a brother. I'm going to tell you right now, bro, the fact that you're opening up like this is enough for me, because you beat me to my question, bro. I kid you not the last thing you just said. You just beat me to it. I was going to ask you that Real shit dog. So you already answered it and I really truthfully want you to know this means a lot, because you're showing something that I don't care if they want to take it or you're like all right, put them up.
Speaker 1:No, when you guys hear what this man is cooking on and he's ready to show it to y'all, it's not going to disappoint, it's not going to put you in a place where you're like oh, I don't know really where he stands. If you dissect this episode for what it is right, in my honest opinion, for the heart you'll know that you're going to hear a little bit of all his influences from his life into what his music is. And this dude is not claiming to be this, that or the other. He's being himself in his most truest poetic state. And that is enough, bro. That is hip-hop Nowadays, especially, especially. It doesn't matter what set you rep, it doesn't make you less hard, less important. If you're good with wordplay, which you are, man bro, I wish you would be like, here you go, I'm going to debut a song.
Speaker 1:We're going to wait to hear all that, but I'm just saying like, bro, not to big you up or toot your horn too much or whatever the case these motherfuckers might say in their comments. Whatever, I'm just saying, I know what you're doing, brother, and I respect it because I I can't wait, bro.
Speaker 1:It took that like bro, and I wanted to anger him more, a lot sooner, like bro. Say so, man, this is the time now because, honestly, I truthfully, bro, from my heart, I feel like hip-hop needs that now, to going off, to going off everything you're saying, bro, especially now on the time of uncertainty. These old heads like they did their thing don't get me wrong, I'm not gonna disregard any of them but I feel like now is the time to show some shit because, bro, they need that, they need someone to come up like look man, look, this is what inspired me. But this is my input on that, this is my imprint on what hip hop is, and they're not disregarding it. Hell, they're not showing hate to it either, bro, like you'd be surprised, man. Actually, I don't put it past him.
Speaker 1:He wouldn't be surprised you might be. Let me rephrase that my boy wouldn't be surprised Some of y'all might be. Let me make that shit clear. But it's like he knows man. It's like if you study the culture and you love it, you live it as much as he has and as much as I have. You know that it's refreshing to them. They hear some shit. You know I'm like man.
Speaker 1:This is the shit we helped produce because they did. They influenced your, your mind and your heart. You're right and you're in your thoughts and you put it into lyricism. And not everybody has it, bro, some cats and I love to the ones that are that are doing it, that are that aren't the greatest. Hey, man, I'm not gonna shit on your dreams, do your thing, but when you hear it, when you get the chance to hear it, you'll know. You know what I'm saying. It's one of those things that I genuinely, from my heart, believe that Just really indulging in the culture, man, and what it is and what it offers, it's just. I'm gonna push hard for it. That's a great Second topic If I'm gonna keep it 100% real with you.
Speaker 3:Our original topic I know it's washed out now. Fuck that shit bro.
Speaker 1:That shit out that window and that shit on me. But anyway, bro, that shit wouldn't the hell the same way, any damn way.
Speaker 2:And what?
Speaker 1:I love About this shit, bro, I'm gonna say this shit it's organic and you know what this shit feels. Better time than what we were going to talk about originally. Any damn way, for real, man, I'm just going to be real, bro.
Speaker 2:Hell yeah, man, I respect you and love you for that, bro, and I mean it, bro, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:This feels way better than what we were originally going to put in there, and you know what. So they have this peace of mind. I'm going to keep it real, bro. I'm going to add you a little two cents to that, you can, but all we were originally going to talk about was just some CEO in a healthcare industry. Anthem Blue Cross is a big fucking. You know they're a big deal and we'll delve into it in another episode.
Speaker 3:It's crazy man, it's Blue.
Speaker 1:Cross too, man. Yeah, it's a big deal. It's actually supposed to be a fucking good one, which?
Speaker 3:I agree because I shit.
Speaker 1:I have Blue Cross, so I get it. That's a conversation for another day, y'all. I feel like what happened today was organic and it was beautiful and I don't want to overstep that. You know what I'm saying. We're going to keep this what it. What do you got to say on that, brother? I want to pass back to you. If you can put a little too.
Speaker 3:I mean, like I said, I hope JJ's innocent bro.
Speaker 1:That's really what we're talking about today. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, that's just. I mean, I know we went up on, you know, a little tangent. No we didn't you know what I'm saying? Fuck that this shit happened the way it was supposed to Thank you and I love it.
Speaker 1:I love where that shit went and that was an episode, bro, but no man, you know what. This was organic and I appreciate where it went, man, and you know you're right, jay-z. I hope he's innocent. I don't think I have much else to add to it. You got anything you want to say. I think we already expressed how we feel.
Speaker 1:I will say this gonna end it on this toe, on a high note. Okay, just stay tuned. You're gonna hear some furious music. As far as what he's gonna go by what artist name? Y'all gonna find that out when I find that shit out. Okay, what this man wants to go by, that shit is in the air. Just know, you got some hip-hop, some good rap, some real shit come from this man to my right. I'm gonna throw the mic to him in a second, but I will say this thank you, sir, for everything you bring to this show. I love you, dog. I know you love me too. Bro, it's there, it's equal. I just want to say thank you for your insight on this.
Speaker 1:I hope jay-z's innocent we'll see what happens, bro. You know what I mean. I know he. I know he influenced you a lot. So, hey, we'll see how this goes. Jay-z, so far it looks all right. We'll see what's up, I don't know. We'll give you all an update when we know. You know what I mean. But with that being said, I'll pass it over to my boy here.
Speaker 3:Go ahead, brother, Of course yours. Like I said, man, hopefully he's innocent and that's really all I can hope for, Because I mean, allegations are allegations. But, it always presents the opportunity to you know, it always presents doubt.
Speaker 3:Always, and it sucks that it's one of you know, an esteemed person, but this is the way of the world. You know this is what happens when you live with people who I really can't make a judgment on. It's just that. That's just the way of the world. You know you have different, you know, opinions, different perspectives, all kinds of shit. Shit happens and hopefully, you know, it works out for the best.
Speaker 1:Amen to that that. I agree, alright, guys. Well, with that being said, this has been another episode of timeless talk. If we've intrigued you in any way, which I most definitely don't doubt that we have, god bless you. Stay tuned. More come. You know how this is. This is episode 6. This is episode. This is episode six.
Speaker 2:Wow wow, jesus, this is episode eight. It's episode eight. Episode eight I'm tripping, bro.
Speaker 1:Episode eight it's episode eight. Stick to it for more guys. We're doing 16. If you haven't noticed by now, I'm sure y'all have noticed. We do about 16 episodes every season.
Speaker 1:Hey, man, if you guys can keep subscribing to us, following us, youtube, rumble, spotify, especially Spotify man, spotify is killing it. I want to take a moment to say thank y'all. Real shit, I appreciate you guys for everything you do. Spotify, man, they're going to get a hand clap Y'all keeping us live with the vocal man. If there was ever a platform I had to give some love to, that gave us some love, bro, with the streaming and shit. Apple Podcasts is right behind them, but Spotify, man, yo, I love y'all. Thank you so much Again.
Speaker 1:In the morning, bro, they love to listen to us in the morning. I got to send you that statistic. I got to send it to you Furious, but they do love us in the morning. Fuck it, hey, we love you guys. Appreciate you guys for listening to us and making us a part of your mornings. Get your morning coffee. Get your coffee when you listen to us. Man, just know that we're acknowledging you guys. I hope you made it this far. We love you, we appreciate you. Maybe we'll start saying this In the beginning of the episodes Okay, yeah, right, when we start out like hey man, shout out to y'all that make us a part of your morning coffee. We're not neglecting y'all, we appreciate y'all. And, with that being said, this has been Timeless Talk. We love y'all. We'll see you next week. Please tune in. We'll see you then. Outro Music.
