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🎬🕵️♂️✨Hollywood Underworld: Diddy's Secrets & Celebrity Shadows
What if the glamorous facade of Hollywood concealed a far darker reality? Join us as we uncover the mysterious & controversial life of Sean Combs, known as Diddy, whose legal troubles and scandalous lifestyle have captured headlines. From the bizarre discovery of a thousand bottles of baby oil in his home to unsettling rumors surrounding his infamous parties, we're pulling back the curtain on the power dynamics & potential blackmail schemes that have long been whispered about in celebrity circles.
Our exploration doesn't stop at Diddy; we venture into the enigmatic world of celebrity behavior, questioning the public personas versus private realities of stars like Denzel Washington, Robert Downey Jr., and Leonardo DiCaprio. With candid discussions about the implications of these scandals for careers & reputations, we're piecing together how the allure of fame often comes with a hidden price. Speculation swirls around the possible involvement of other high-profile figures in similar controversies, leaving us to ponder who might step forward with their own revelations.
As we navigate these complex narratives, we also reflect on the broader implications of wealth & power in the entertainment industry. How do personal struggles shape professional opportunities, and what happens when the truth breaks through the glossy veneer of celebrity life? Join the conversation as we dissect the intersection of scandal, justice, & the human condition, and explore how staying grounded amid the chaos can offer a clearer perspective on the world beyond Hollywood's spotlight.
*Discussion on Diddy’s Legal Troubles
*Uncovering Disturbing Revelations at Diddy Parties
*The Dark Side of Diddy's Empire
*Disturbing Revelations in Hollywood
*Celebrity Behavior & Controversies
*Celebrity Deception in Hollywood
*Unraveling Diddy's True Character
*Speculating on Diddy's Legal Troubles
*Celebrity Scandals & Legal Troubles
*Staying Grounded Amid Distractions
*Intro Beat Credit: Leo Legendary*
*Outro Beat Credit: Young Frenchy 808*
They said that supposedly they found a thousand bottles of oil, baby oil, a thousand bottles of baby oil in his house. Bro, what is that for? Okay, these freak-offs? All right, obviously you guys are fucking each other. You need a lot of lubrication, I get it. My thing is, though, that much, how often are you doing these parties, bro? And if that's not just for the freak-offs, is that like a? You survived a diddy party? Take this with you as a little token of my gratification Like what the fuck is that? And welcome back to the conversation that never ends. This is timeless talk. I'm your host, aj, as always, to my right is the is my co-host, your co-host. We got Furious. Sorry, brother, they were. Uh, how are y'all? How are y'all? They were fucking. They were a little distracted with the Smithsonian Newton balls over here on my left.
Speaker 2:Oh.
Speaker 1:Oh man, okay, so this is season five, episode five. We got an interesting one for you guys today. There's a lot going on in the world. I'm furious. Kind of a fucked up shit going on in the world too. A lot of distractions. It's funny how our last episode was literally about the distraction, the big distraction, of the opening ceremony of the Olympics, right, yep, yep, compared to now. Now we're talking about puff, diddy, sean combs. What the fuck is his name? Man, is it sean combs? Yeah, that's the actual, real, fucking legal name, right? So, mr p diddy, puff, daddy, diddy, whatever the fuck you call yourself these days, you got yourself, you got yourself in a lot of shit right now going on, huh buddy, yeah, you over here in a supermax prison awaiting his fucking trial, start, right is, is that what he's doing? I think he's awaiting his trial to start, isn't he? Yeah?
Speaker 2:something like that. They're so uh, investigating, like the stuff that they recovered.
Speaker 1:I guess from what they were finding from this house, right? So as obviously as we just clearly just jumped into today's topic, guys, we're going're going to discuss the Diddy situation, I guess, if you can call it that, because it's going back decades. Right, we're not going to cover everything, obviously, in this one episode, but we're going to at least cover majority of what has come out right, or what's going on up to date. I know a little bit about his past. I know that he has a lot of people that have gone to his parties and have witnessed the shit that you know what I mean that have seen stuff that they can't disclose on camera. I mean, there's just a quickly throw one out there right now for you guys.
Speaker 1:Fucking Ashton Kutcher man, I remember seeing a viral video of him and they asked him I think oh, it was, excuse me, it was, I was on. He was on that show, hot ones. He was on that show Hot Ones, oh, with the wings, with the wings, right? Oh shit, Remember that. And then Sean Evans I think it's Sean Evans. Forgive me if I got that wrong. I'm pretty sure it's Sean Evans. He asked him a question. He's like oh so the infamous Diddy parties, what are those like? Can you share a story with us?
Speaker 2:And you literally see, ashton, that's, let me get the hottest one.
Speaker 1:He said hold that thought.
Speaker 2:Extra hot sauce he's like.
Speaker 1:I can't do that one. No, literally, bro, he literally shuffled through and right there at the table, like awkwardly, he was like yeah, I can't tell you that one. I definitely can't tell you about that one. He's like man, you know, I'm over here literally shuffling through and Sean's trying to laugh it off, awkwardly. Laugh it off. And he's like, yeah, all right. He's like, um, like not seriously, what the fuck happened? Not for real. And um, yeah, man, he, he just he's shuffling through in this and you can see how awkward you know he looks and how fucking he can't share any of that publicly. What does that tell y'all? And he, definitely, that definitely means that he's on he's involved for sure, he's heavily involved and he's probably stayed late.
Speaker 1:Isn't that what they say?
Speaker 2:Overstate is welcome at the party.
Speaker 1:They always say there's two types of people that go to Diddy parties the people that show up and they're there when all the whole general crowd is there, and then you have the additionals that stay for the after party. They stay a little later. All right, past the hours that you would actually go home and do your thing, yeah, man. So apparently Ashton Kutcher was part of the second crowd. Stay later, apparently. Sorry to name drop you like that man, but anyway, we're going to get into it. Though it's crazy, man, we'll get into it more depth. So what are your thoughts on that? Before I ask you what you know about the situation.
Speaker 2:I mean, right now it just seems like everything's coming full circle for him and yeah, that's just pretty crazy. I mean, I'm not really surprised by it, it's just I just want to know who else is involved.
Speaker 1:you, know so do I?
Speaker 2:I'm curious. I know he's the centerpiece for a lot of this, but there's got to be other big names involved you know, oh, there definitely is. No, I agree, and I wonder when that list when he's got to be other big names involved.
Speaker 1:Oh, there, definitely is. No, I agree, and I wonder when that list, when he's going to drop it? But I think he's going to do it on the stand in the courtroom, do you think? Is that what you think? Oh, like Nino Brown?
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, like some real Nino Brown, shit man. Well, actually there was a song. I'm not sure what song it is, but he Like it's like I think it's two bars. Okay, he, basically he had a song, yeah he has a song. Oh he does, did he? Yeah? And there's a line where he's like and this isn't verbatim, but it's verbatim. But he says I'm just kidding, Go ahead, Go ahead.
Speaker 2:He says something about like the cops and the fed that either those bars are actually in there, but something like that there's no yeah, and you could tell that it was like like a, like an older video because you have like you have like five people like dancing in the background. You know, yeah, you know the old, the old, like rap videos where people are dancing and shit. Yeah, so it was probably in the mid like 2000s when he wow so.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like a warning in a way.
Speaker 2:In a sense, yeah, he's kind of putting it out there for everybody that attends this shit. But I don't think, if you ever catch yourself being righteous at one of my parties.
Speaker 1:Make sure you second-guess that right Nah Type of shit the way.
Speaker 2:I think the reason why he just lasts so long is because of you know, the whole blackmail thing like that. Probably he's probably blackmailing them.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what makes the most sense, right, Because why else would you be able to last this long and survive the way he's been surviving man?
Speaker 2:But he got dirt in everybody, like especially with, like that freak Nick shit or whatever that is that shit, bro. Like to have someone like on wax in the most vulnerable moments. You got leverage.
Speaker 1:Especially if you're in these really called what's it called? Freak-offs. Freak-offs that he does in the late night hours, the ditty parties, the freak-offs If you're on camera and he's secretly recording, if he's taping you secretly.
Speaker 2:you're fucked, you're consenting supposedly so you're in full effect.
Speaker 1:Oh, 100%, and you can't deny that You're not acting. Oh, you're not. You're trying to play that with the judge. I was actually in character, sir, I knew the camera was right there. I knew the camera was rolling. I was in character. This was actually not. This was not really the act that you think it was your honor. No man, that wasn't a minor who said that.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, and that's that that's. That's another uh fucked up part about it to me.
Speaker 1:No, absolutely.
Speaker 2:Minors involved. And not only that, like there's like young stars who are big stars now, who were, you know, courted by him.
Speaker 1:Courted. Supposedly. Supposedly it's 60 each. I don't know if that number's probably wrong, but I forgot what I saw in that video, but I think it said there's 20 of each. So there might be 40 people that are going to come forward and some of them are minors. Half are men and half are women. Don't quote me on that number. I could be wrong about the number, but I do know it was half and half male and female and a good portion of them were were, unfortunately, minors. Yeah, man, it's really disturbing that you're that much, you're that old, you have that much money. You can't find a woman your own age, and I'm not like that. If you can find a woman that's your age, you can't just be normal with her. I don't understand. Does money really make you a fucking weirdo? I don't understand.
Speaker 2:Like I think money gives you. It gives you a lot more reach, a lot more reach and a lot more insulation then you start to wonder was he always like to see when he was broke?
Speaker 1:possibly right?
Speaker 2:it was just probably something that he couldn't really capitalize on. It's probably something that he could probably do. Have you ever heard that for that, on a smaller scale yeah, but have you ever heard that saying before?
Speaker 1:where they say that, uh, on what that money just makes you amplify to a person who you really are. Yeah, yeah, I believe that.
Speaker 2:So then that might be the case too for this guy but I do also believe that that it can also, you know, influence someone down a darker path, just because it's also the moment that you get the money. That's true. If you get the money, if you get the money when you're young and immature, right, and you're still in, you know, immature ways or whatever you might not develop, you know better qualities because you already have the access to everything that, that's true you need.
Speaker 2:There is no need to grow and then from your, from your like perspective, maybe right and you know, opposed to you getting the money when you're like 50 you already live. You know what I'm saying. You know what you want to do now. You have a better idea of what you want to do now, that's true.
Speaker 1:As opposed to what you were for, that's actually true. That makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2:So just imagine having that money. I'm not condoning anything or giving an excuse, I'm just trying to illustrate. But imagine getting money as a young age right and having just a few of those proclivities right. You get the money and then now you start experimenting, especially this is back in in the 90s where, yeah, there wasn't as much surveillance. You know a lot of stuff that there's a lot of stuff that isn't recorded, that's you know. I'm saying stuff that that there's probably worse shit that happened then who knows right.
Speaker 2:But imagine having those proclivities. You got the money. You're able to make stuff go away. You're you know what I'm saying Doing all this stuff. You're getting away with shit. You know, you know what I'm saying. So you start, you start developing your own type of method, probably to it to like keep it going. You know, yeah, no, for sure, I mean no before.
Speaker 1:Because even like his video and he got away with it for so long.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why he didn't even yeah, and I think that he Think to stop. Okay. So there was times there was providence right, where he would have gotten taken out right. Yeah, so like in the 2000 with the whole gun thing, right, there's moments. For sure, that would have been it for him at that moment, but he got someone to take the fall for him. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Do you think he paid that person?
Speaker 2:He did, he did right, I think he did.
Speaker 1:How many years did he do?
Speaker 2:I heard 10, but I think, I mean, I do think yeah.
Speaker 1:That's 10 years. You're never going to get back.
Speaker 2:I wonder how much he paid that person to take that kind of fall man, and that was 2000,. So the person got out in what? 2010? And I remember, I think was it Shine? I think it was Shine Really Cause. Remember, remember, after he went to jail, there was this one song that Shine came through rapping on the phone. I forgot what song it was, but he was rapping on the phone. You don't remember that? I don't Hold up.
Speaker 1:I don't remember it, but you're probably. It's a real song, though it sounds familiar, you know. Look it up. Oh yeah, well, while you do that, what. I know to be true about this is that if they didn't have any evidence, the man wouldn't be in custody right now, right. So people try to argue the fact that, oh you know, there's always a flip side to the coin. How do you guys know for sure that he's not just an innocent man?
Speaker 2:No, yeah, for real. But he's not innocent, he's not.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry guys. Let's be honest here. Okay, I know that sometimes the justice system can be flawed. At the end of the day, man, if there's enough evidence against you, then there's no way to round it right. I mean, didn't Alonzo say it right in fucking training day? What did he say? It's not what you know, it's what you can prove. Yeah, so they can prove it. I mean, even if they know they just okay, we know that he's a sicko, we know that he's. The evidence is there enough, enough, enough eyewitness accounts can prove that. Right, there's enough.
Speaker 1:There's enough evidence around people that just know it right just by actions and stories, and you know things that have been told throughout the years. And then now there's evidence to back it up too, and I had to address the lotion bottles, man, or not the lotion bottles? What was it? Fucking baby oil, because I thought that was hilarious, bro. What are your thoughts on that? I know you're looking so done up right now to see that song, but they said that supposedly they found 1,000 bottles of oil, baby oil, 1,000 bottles of baby oil in his house. Bro, what is that for? Okay, these freak offs? All right, obviously you guys are fucking each other. You need a lot of lubrication, I get it. My thing is, though, that much how often are you doing these parties, bro? And if that's not just for the freak offs, is that like a? You survived the diddy party? Take this with you as a little token of my gratification. Like what? What the fuck is?
Speaker 2:that.
Speaker 1:What are your thoughts on that Furious?
Speaker 2:On the baby oil. I mean, you owning baby oil isn't a crime, you know 1,000 bottles of. I mean it definitely implies something you know, but that you know by itself isn't a problem. But, like with the context of the whole situation, you can only imagine what it's for Exactly.
Speaker 1:It's not even really the baby oil that's the issue. But it's funny because when you try to hear it, I saw a documentary. When I was kind of researching stuff, I came across a little scene where the lawyer, his lawyer because I guess Harvey, you know harvey from tmz had asked him he was like a thousand bottles of baby oil, how do you explain that one? And he was like and the guy's like and the lawyer made a good point he's like I don't understand what that has to do with the case like what does that matter? Right, if he has that in the house? And he's not wrong about saying it that way, that's true. And he's like. He's like well, you know, people like americans like to shop in bulk. He's like he's like. He's like well, you know, people like Americans like to shop in bulk. He's like. He's like maybe maybe he went to Costco and got a couple and he was like. He's like. I can only imagine. He's like. I can only.
Speaker 1:What did the lawyer say? I'm going to paraphrase here he's like, I can only imagine this. The. And then Harvey from TMZ is like well, I'll tell you what. They don't walk out of there with a thousand bottles of fucking baby oil. That's what they don't do. He's not wrong, did he just order? He just hit up Johnson Johnson and say hey, man, I need a pallet full of. I'm going to have a massive freak off. Matter of fact, this whole month we're going to have one every night. I need a fucking pallet, all right, of the shit. We swimming it. But, like you said, bottom line is the baby oil is not the crime. We can imagine what kind of crimes he's committing with the said oil. That's crazy. Anyway, what'd you find, man? Hold on, not for the baby oil, we'll pass that now.
Speaker 2:Honestly, I forgot what song it was, but I remember.
Speaker 1:I do remember hearing about a song that was similar to what you're describing.
Speaker 2:I forgot which, which song it was exactly, but I remember, um, it was, uh, it was a good song, but I remember there, there, when, when, like he like when he comes in rapping, like you could hear, just like the distortion in his voice, like he is rapping from a fucking phone. I forgot what song it was, though, but he is rapping, it sounds familiar. He's rapping from a phone, in prison, or whatever, and, of course, it's really hard to like make out like you know like what he's saying.
Speaker 2:But I remember I remember shot like that was one of the things like, like, like people it was a big thing at the time like, oh shit, like he's rapping from jail.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what I'm saying it was something off.
Speaker 2:They knew it. Yeah, I forgot the song, though, and I couldn't find it right now, but I might just have to play it off the record just to see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, off the record and see what it is. Hey, we'll give an update later with you guys, yeah, when Furious figures out what it is. But you know what, man I mean. There's just so, so much to break down about this particular topic. I don't think I'm going to waste an hour and 45 minutes of your guys' time to discuss it just because I don't think it's necessary to spend that much time on it, do you? I mean not really. So what do I know about it? I know that since the early 2000s or early 1990s, since Biggie was around was that 1990, right 80? When he was in the past, when Biggie was around.
Speaker 2:was that 1990, right 80? When he was in the past, biggie died what Early 90s.
Speaker 1:No, biggie died what I think 97, I think so during his era right of him pushing, you know, and pushing Biggie and all his other artists. I think he's been doing that shit since, even back then. Would you agree? I wouldn't doubt it. What I know to answer your question is I know that he's been colluding since then. I know that he's been having his hands and all kinds of shit. I know that he covers everything up. Somehow. He finds a way out of everything. I know that he, he, um, he. There was a shooting at a club that he tried to have covered up, right, and then the person came forward and talked about how she actually received the bullet and was right there and he was the one that pulled the trigger.
Speaker 2:Shit yeah bro.
Speaker 1:So I'm telling you like I know that that happened. I know that sometimes people can lie about shit, but I know that with her it was corroborated Like it was actually legitimately, the bullet was pulled out, right and they actually found out that they were in the same club and that someone near Diddy if it wasn't Diddy himself pulled the trigger. She claims it was him. That's where the evidence gets shaky and then you don't know if someone paid off somebody to say that or you know what I'm saying. It's kind of sad that the lawlessness that exists here, but the abuse I know that he abused Cassie. I know that that situation with Cassie, bro, you saw that. You see the video.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I saw that I think this year he they actually like settled. I think this year Did they and then like this whole shit happened yeah.
Speaker 1:And then they settled outside of court. Yeah, she actually started all this. In a way, she kind of brought the attention to it.
Speaker 2:the spotlight to it because, well, I because well, I mean kind of, but not really because, like when the first thing happened, like when I think it was just what, 2016 or some shit, maybe, or maybe earlier, karma's a bitch when he yeah, I'll tell you why, though in a second. But like back then I remember when the, when the first allegations came out, when that video came out, because that that video was old, it is and, um, his, um, apology, it just seems like it was scripted.
Speaker 2:It was scripted, and you could tell he was more upset that he got caught. He's like I'm just, that wasn't me.
Speaker 1:No, that was him, but in a very dark place. He's like, yeah, I was just in a very dark place. He's like that's not me anymore. That was me then. That was barely even me. I barely recognized myself, Cameron never lies man. Cameron, does not lie. That was you motherfucker at least own it.
Speaker 1:And if you're gonna say you used to be a piece of shit, at least say you were all. You used to be a piece of shit and you were trying to go to therapy to fix it. I don't know, that's still probably whatever's been received like ass, but you get what I'm saying. Point is, there's no way. And then on top of that, he blew up Kid Cudi's car. Did you hear about that? Because supposedly Cassie was going to him to cry on his shoulder. He found out about that shit, so Bum Viage.
Speaker 2:She would go to Kid Cudi man.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, Where's the thing? He said she would go to him.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Kid Cudi.
Speaker 1:Day and night Fucking shout out to Kid.
Speaker 2:Cudi man but apparently People like the fucking rap therapist man. Real shit, bro. He is Day and night.
Speaker 1:He's like telling her come over here, baby. Well, apparently, cassidy, according to Furious Congratulations, you played yourself. Apparently, you did too Kid Cudi, because your car got blown up due to the whole situation, man, I think by the way, guys excuse me, they didn't know that he would go that far though.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, I don't think Kid Cudi died. None of us did either. Excuse me, guys, my voice is a little different. I'm getting over being sick, um, but anyway, yeah, no, I, I uh, yeah, man, it's the stuff that was was astonishing. I'm sure that even kid cuddy. But I thought what the fuck bro this is, and I don't know how he. I've never seen his, uh, his reaction to. I've only heard, you know, other people talk about it, but I've never actually seen. Is there footage out there of kid cuddy? Anybody asking him like how's your relationship with Diddy? Did y'all?
Speaker 2:ever talk. They probably asked him at the Grammy Awards or something. You know, something like that. They must have right.
Speaker 1:I didn't look into that I know that something like that happened and I was like bro.
Speaker 2:Because I know like if he did say something like controversial it would have been.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to you know what I mean. So I know that that happened and then I know that he's also. I said karma sucks. Or karma sucks because or karma's a bitch because he actually took Cassie away from you. Know, ryan Leslie, right you? Ever hear of Ryan Leslie. Yeah, that's who discovered Cassie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, bro, and the funny thing is Ryan Leslie. That's the artist, right yeah.
Speaker 1:He's the one that makes his own beats and then sings his own songs, raps his own songs Like the light-skinned dude. Yeah, he's dope. I like Ryan.
Speaker 2:Leslie, he was independent, right? Yeah, well, he was first.
Speaker 1:He was with Bad Boy. Obviously he left for obvious reasons. You know what I mean basically did he took his artist, fucked him out of the deal, basically, and then, or MGK too, yeah.
Speaker 2:I remember a lot when I heard that he was with Bad Boy I was like, oh shit, like, like, bro, like that's the one label, that's, like it's worse than it's worse than fucking Death Row.
Speaker 1:I agree. And they say, death Row is a really bad rep. Nah, I think.
Speaker 2:Bad. Boy's probably got the worst rep in the industry, bro, Because like now, if the shit that comes out, bro, not only that, the whole shit, with the whole Meek Mill shit and all that stuff, man Like bro, it's just too. Like Him getting destroyed, it's too.
Speaker 1:Getting his back destroyed. If anything, Congratulations you played yourself he really did. I mean that video of him calling him daddy. That was syndication, bro, that was video of him calling him daddy.
Speaker 2:That was indication, bro, that was foreshadowing, sorry though go ahead, I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean, it was just audio. You know that shit was hella gay.
Speaker 2:You got it, daddy I'm sorry go ahead like, let's say like a video is leaked or something you think he was okay.
Speaker 1:No, I know what you're talking about, that's just audio.
Speaker 2:I think audio can be deceiving.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that could have easily been from some who knows, maybe a gay porn or something. Yeah, for real, that shit was fucking.
Speaker 2:I hope it's not real for me sake, you know but like if the video, let's say a clip, comes out and you, you know what I'm saying and it just shows them both like walking to the restroom or some shit, you know, he's just like oh yeah, so I know about that as well. He's like pointing at all the chandeliers and shit you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know who does that one off, I know who does that one. Did you fucking body call? Anyway, they okay, and again on this show. Look, man, do as you please. Nothing against gay people, man. It's just not our realm really to speak on, not our realm really to speak on. Me and Furious don't really have an opinion on it, other than we don't agree with the lifestyle. We tend to stay on the straight and narrow path. That's all I'm going to say about that.
Speaker 1:Aside from that, though, yeah, no, I was going to talk about that next actually but I know that when it comes to Cassie, she was actually discovered by Ryan Leslie, I believe. At the time Ryan Leslie was signed to Bad Boy, which is Diddy's label. So, long story short, he took his girl. They actually dated and obviously you know what happened to her. We all know what happened to her and yeah, I'm sure Ryan probably looks back at this like I mean, I feel bad for her, my heart goes out to her, but you made your decision, bro, honestly yeah man fuck you to me.
Speaker 1:She thought she was choosing up. Oh yeah, bro, not that thing about this that's sad, bro instead of sticking with the guy that knew you and got you in fame in the first place.
Speaker 2:That's not how the world works, though that's sad, though, dude, that's right I mean, it is what it is, bro. She gave diddy like damn near like, damn near like 10 years bro.
Speaker 1:Of her life.
Speaker 2:Even after being abused the first time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Sometimes it's not always diamonds, huh no. That was always the case that was well-timed.
Speaker 2:It was right, like I did, that yes sir, but that's unfortunately the case sometimes, man.
Speaker 1:And, I really believe, a lot more people are going to end up like these balls right here, yeah, bouncing off each other in prison somewhere. It sucks, bro, because when he starts to say that list like, it's either gonna, I guess, like go down in court or he's gonna start singing before that, or he might get quote, unquote, epstein'd you were saying that he might even just die, get, keep, get murdered in prison before he even gets to the stand it, but it depends on, like, who's involved, because if they already got all the information right, it doesn't matter if he dies, no, but now it's out of his control, right?
Speaker 2:because let's say, let's say he does choose to divulge, right? I mean? Or let's say okay, if they anticipate that he is going to do that, I think that if they were nefarious enough to you know, you know, take someone out, or whatever they'll, they'll have done it already. You know what. I'm saying that's true, but I think they're going to, you know or there could be a weirder reason why they haven't done it yet. Unless they're involved too, how was our last meeting engaging in this shit?
Speaker 1:I don't think that everybody that necessarily goes to a diddy party is gay. I think that there is.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that, but you are in?
Speaker 1:no, I know, but you're in an environment exactly you're doing orgies, probably you're doing some weird type of shit, you know you're seeing some weird shit happen over here. Yep, and you're like I ain't fucking with that. I see it, but I'm not fucking with that. That's some shit I'm not going to partake in, but you're still around it, though, yeah.
Speaker 2:And bro, I heard he was using like ketamine on them too, horse tranquilizer. Oh my, really, yeah I heard that. I didn't know about that. No, I mean, if it was in ketamine, that was like a horse trank or whatever, yeah, and they'll get them all fucked up and shit and then they can't really resist or anything like that. So I'm not going to say that this is worse than the Cosby thing.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying the Cosby thing was even. I'm not saying that it's in any way shape or form better or anything like that, but this one is like it trumps. It kind of beats that one too.
Speaker 2:Because of the horse shank elation Like I don't know what cause it was used in, maybe roofies or something like that, which is equally as bad. But this one is like you're using animal shit too. Now you know what I mean. People are just going over and above to get people like sedated. And now, and not only that, he had the camera thing too he had cameras and shit like that.
Speaker 2:There's a video where online, where his son's like shooting a basketball and there's freaking beds in the fucking basketball court there's like no, there is beds that come out the wall yeah, they're in the basketball court all the comments. All all they all say are like why are there beds in the basketball court?
Speaker 1:They just like drop down beds.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they like go on the wall and shit.
Speaker 1:Bro, what kind of shit. So you spend the night there too, then Fucking orgies and you fuck each other and pass out there in one of his beds, or?
Speaker 2:they probably do that shit in the fucking basketball court or some shit. What?
Speaker 1:All right, guys, this is a basketball-themed orgy. Tonight. We're shooting basketballs out of vaginas.
Speaker 2:A lot of these celebrities have. They have full-size courts in their houses, bro. They're freaking estates.
Speaker 1:I agree. It's not a house anymore.
Speaker 2:It's an estate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I know for sure that exists. I don't doubt that. Whole rec areas. I'm sure they have a fucking yeah, underground garages, everything you know with a little like waterfall cascade on the fucking front of it.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean Crazy shit. I wouldn't doubt it, man.
Speaker 1:That's nuts, bro. Yeah, all that stuff exists, man. That's what I'm saying, like I don't know. I think woodworks, man, a lot of people gonna get burnt out by this man as far as, like, their careers are gonna be over. Some of those people are gonna be blackballed forever, man.
Speaker 2:after that there's not gonna be any coming back from that, bro, you know um, I was gonna say, though, it's crazy though, like how this year started off. Right, it started off with kendrick's diss right, bro, dismantling, you know. And then like there's this whole hype about it, you know things are going back and forth, and like that's just the beginning, you know, and then it culminates. I mean, not like us, you know all those tracks, you know it's just everyone's following it, and then like it kind of dies down a bit. Then what 9-11 he drops, watch the party die, right, and then now this is like coming out, you know. I'm just saying this look, I know kendrick's not no prophet or anything like that. He doesn't know, he doesn't know the future, but his, his, his executions are very well, well timed, for whatever reason, like that this year. Do you think it's hidden cat williams?
Speaker 1:too, yeah, yeah he spoke on this too yep club shea shea and he even said it. He said a lot of motherfuckers are going to get it this year, yep. He said I'm not just saying Diddy either.
Speaker 2:He said this year which means that he was probably tipped off that they were going to do something.
Speaker 1:Yep, and not just that, bro. He probably knew, he's probably already been questioned.
Speaker 2:He's probably already been, because he was probably already questioned about it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, he probably was already questioned about it.
Speaker 2:They probably already approached him about it, you know, letting him know that they're doing an investigation. He they probably asked about, they knew he was probably invited or whatever, and he's like I didn't fucking take that shit and that's probably up. He's tired of it because he's fed up with the bullshit.
Speaker 1:The bullshit of Hollywood that's it, you know.
Speaker 2:And not only that, bro. You're only, you're only ammunition against any type of oppressive type of, you know, force, force, and this type of domain is your words that's true like yeah, you can, you know you can probably bear arms and things like that. But you can probably bear arms and things like that. But you know, when you speak about it and you it's, it becomes people become aware of it it has a different type of impact.
Speaker 1:I agree, no, I agree. It's just one of those things, man, where it's honestly sad too that it went on for so long, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and finally you know it will be, but, but I think it went on so long just because that's just how people are. But people, if they can, people can get away with something, and that goes for everybody. We can get away with this shit. We're gonna most of us are gonna probably take that shit. Okay, maybe not most, a lot of us are gonna take that opportunity, you know, to get away with something. True, I just think that's just part of it, is just part of just human nature I'm not saying just the him being, like you know, vile and shit like that.
Speaker 2:I'm not saying that. I'm saying like the fact that I'm getting away with it, like it goes on for so long, like bro, even like kevin spacey has some shit and like I remember um like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they can't do the show. House is one of my favorite actors, bro. Yeah, and they canceled. He's done huh hollywood.
Speaker 2:He's never made a movie since huh, or a tv show I don't think so, but I mean, he's already made his money, bro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's already he's probably bro, he's already in the background where he was probably like what was he doing? He was probably producing some of these shows. So there's an allegation that came out. I forgot which year it was, but that it was. This was earlier.
Speaker 2:This, I think don't quote me on it I'm pretty sure it was a minor, I think he was like 14 years old or like some shit, and I guess that at that time he did something. I don't know if he followed him or something to that degree to where he did. So he did something that was, you know, unbefitting. You know what I'm saying. And that person came out later about it, about the information. I think it was a few years ago. He came out later about it with information when he can I think it was it was a few years ago he came out, he uh, exposed it or whatever to that, this and this. That happened and then, I know, I think, kevin spacey, he just apologized and he was like, oh yeah, if I, if I and don't quote me on this either like oh, if I hurt that person.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry you got you know, it's just the typical type of you know apology type of shit. But I remember when I heard that I was, I was kind of like, damn, kevin spacey too, fuck, I know man, like I know, because, bro, like I've watched seven, I've watched you know, house of cards, I've watched you know other kind of shit.
Speaker 1:You know I'm saying like no, he was a good actor, bro. I liked him too. Pay it forward, remember, remember. Pay 21 bro, yeah, bro, and a lot of good ones man.
Speaker 2:Um, I'm like bro, fuck you too.
Speaker 1:It's a sad it's, it's a, it's a downer, isn't it?
Speaker 2:it's kind of like because now it's like now I'm thinking anyone who, anyone who is good at doing a weird role, is probably like that, which which is bad, because I shouldn't just judge one for all. But now it's like all the people who have the range, bro, not all of them, okay, but some people who have the range to be great actors. That's like, all the people who have the range, bro, not all of them, okay, but some people who have the range to be great actors. That's like okay, hold up, but we always have to remind ourselves it's acting.
Speaker 1:It's not really who the person is. You know what I'm saying, fair.
Speaker 2:They're talented in portraying a certain character or whatever or characters, whatever Right, but that doesn't really show who they are in real life. So just because Denzel is a great actor, right, doesn't mean that you're going to like him in real life, you know what I mean. Like hey man, training day was dope.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was dope, I know and I heard that he's an asshole in real life too though it's a role. Okay, yeah, he seems like honorable, like for instance in John Q.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's a great fucking guy in that movie.
Speaker 1:He always gets good roles yeah, he's an excellent guy, a guy that you would he's everyday, every man's man or whatever.
Speaker 2:You Wait a minute and, I think, training Day. That was probably his only role where he was the actual villain. He was the villain in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that I can think of that. I can remember. I think that was the only movie that he was actually the bad guy. He's always a hero.
Speaker 2:He's either the hero or he's neutral. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. He's neutral, trying to get better. It's never like he's just a fucking degenerate.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and go figure, he won an Academy Award for the one role he did as a bad guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's crazy. You know what I'm saying, and many people will say that that was his best.
Speaker 1:I mean, shit, I quoted it, I quoted it earlier.
Speaker 2:It's not what you know, it's what you can prove.
Speaker 1:He said that shit like three times in the movie. That's probably why, though.
Speaker 2:That shit sunk in. A lot of people will's not that's arguable, though, man, but it's a really he did it really well. Like he did it really really really well, man. Like I've watched a lot of like denzel movies, but that movie was like the way he did that shit. It was like it was just so. It was a very down-to-earth portrayal about corruption. Yeah, you know as I was as a cop.
Speaker 2:But I digress, you know, um, um it. Just because how, how they're on screen doesn't mean that you're going to like them in person, just even like, let's say, like DiCaprio right, he was actually seen in a picture too. Okay, with the whole Diddy thing.
Speaker 1:So he might be involved too. What?
Speaker 2:I'm saying is like Hollywood's fucked man. Even with him.
Speaker 1:RDJ don't let me down, dog. Oh, robert Downey Jr, iron man, yeah, don't peer there, please.
Speaker 2:Every star has some type of controversy, bro. I know Robert Downey Jr. I know his thing used to be coke or some shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was using drugs and shit.
Speaker 2:He probably still is on the shit he's probably better at fucking.
Speaker 1:you know managing Victor Von Doom, so he's coked out to play his character.
Speaker 2:it's like I gotta get in that, gotta get in that, gotta get in the in the character in the zone, like I mean, do you think, I mean I don't know who knows bro, you think he hasn't? He hasn't tried coke since 1995 till now?
Speaker 1:you don't think he's tried, he's had a maybe not, bro, because the only reason I mean maybe there's a chance.
Speaker 2:He did it okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but the reason why I would feel and hope like he didn't do. It is just because think about it, bro, you gotta come back in Hollywood. Most people don't get. I heard a lot of actors don't usually get that chance right. But he got that chance. But he's a good actor, so do you think he's that's true, though, okay, no, I see what you're saying. He got a second chance because he's a good actor. He's a good actor. So if you're ass and you do drugs, you're basically fucked, goodbye. I mean pretty much.
Speaker 2:Who's another shout out actor that came back, lindsay Lohan okay, yeah, but she didn't come back as strong like I was saying.
Speaker 1:If you look at. If you look at like, stuff that she did recently is like parody shit. I think she was like in a scary movie or the one one of the last scary movie that came out and she was in it. So I was like she's getting roles like that now because of all the shit. It's like she's embracing all the fuck shit that's been happening in her life All the, all the arrests all you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Honestly, you see what I'm saying. So it's like they embrace. You know we're still gonna pay you, but you know, maybe that's an actor accepting what's happening to them. At that point they're like I've already done so much, fuck shit outside of here. I might as well own this now. And I mean, like you said, if they got their money, they don't really do work like that anymore like.
Speaker 2:I mean, I just don't think. I don't think it's as rigid as they try to like portray like, oh, like every day I'm doing this because the thing is okay to me and I could be wrong about this, but I think, like, as people, you know, as humans, when we have, when you have like true freedom, like okay, like you know, financial freedom, you know you're not, you're not constrained, you can move where the fuck you want, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, having discipline is a lot harder, oh, for sure, because you have the access to this shit. So, if you already have the proclivity to it. So, in a way, it's kind of easy for us to say what we're saying because, because we have, we're limited, we're fucking nerfed like hella ner, very few buffs. Okay, that's fucking true if the only buffs we have are like, are like physical buffs.
Speaker 1:Okay, like that's it, you know.
Speaker 2:But you know I'm saying celebrities have monetary buffs. You know like they, you know that's true money, bro. You have reach. You can do not, you can't do anything, but you can. You can do anything. You can do shit without having to worry about what you don't have, you know. So if he had a crazy drug habit, right, it's not difficult to entertain that, okay, like, let's take a chance, you know. Rest in peace of Chris Farley, right, he died from coke, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Great actor. You know what I'm saying and of course you know he passed away because he did it. I'm pretty sure there was times where he was like, oh, like, I'm gonna stop whatever. He went back, you know. I mean, yeah, different individual than Robert Downey Jr, but I'm saying in my opinion I'm like get ahead of one yeah, he might have one, but but okay.
Speaker 1:so my argument was gonna say with that is maybe he hasn't gone back because he knows what it did do, what it almost did to his career, even though he knows he has the talent to come back. Maybe he knows and he fears that if he goes back to it, if he takes one bump, he might fall completely back. You know what I'm saying. So there's a good chance that maybe he didn't, because I never want to go back to that place, that's true.
Speaker 2:I got a second chance and I don't want to fuck this up now, that's true Me, I'm just always, I'm always, I'm always just skeptical of that, just because I just know.
Speaker 1:Which. No, you're offering another, another perspective. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Just because you know, I know, when it comes to absolutes, like oh, I'm surely not, I'm always like I just take it with a grain we're fucking fickle. We're fickle with ourselves, with our own goals, with our own motivations. We're just fickle Like we will change up on our on ourselves. Oh, like, nah, I'm not.
Speaker 1:I'm not feeling like that today, you know all it takes is a feeling yeah, bro, and that's what stops a lot of people from from progressing in their lives.
Speaker 2:bro, right now, right, we don't necessarily have that, that, that financial reach to just travel to fucking spain and just go on some type of escalator. Right, we don't have we don't, you, you, you can't, we don't have that. Yeah, we can't scratch that itch the way that they can scratch the itch, okay, so it's just. It's just a different dynamic. You know what I'm saying. So it's like when I, when I, when I hear about like this diddy shit, all this stuff, like that, I'm like he's rich.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to circle it back to Diddy. Yeah, like he's fucking rich. You know what I'm saying. I'm not condoning it.
Speaker 1:I was going to say maybe that's why he does what he does.
Speaker 2:It's easier for them to do this shit.
Speaker 1:All the free time.
Speaker 2:Why are all the rich people the ones who are fucking weird they're not only regular people who are equally weird too on that fuck shit, doing crazy shit, right, but rich people have the, they have the installation of the money, they have the shut the. They have the, the reach to where, like they, they can still go outside and not have to worry about being seen, you know, I mean, or they'll have fucking like security and shit. Yeah, you know, I'm saying they're insulated to the point where, like I, I can do it and they'll get it. Yeah, like you'll be mad, but it's not even going to affect you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they have that. Yeah, they have the word. Are you going to fight?
Speaker 2:him behind me, no.
Speaker 1:And they have. Like you said, they have the money, they have the ways to move people, they have the convincing factor, they have a lot of things on their side that are going to help them.
Speaker 2:It's just one of those things where it you have that mindset already where you're, you're, you're abusing something, a substance, a lifestyle, whatever. Yeah, it just it's just going to amplify that 100%.
Speaker 1:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 2:And it's think about this too, Like remember, okay, it's like everything's just kind of like progressed like steadily Cause remember before this year, right, Will Smith, shit, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:And everyone's focused on him.
Speaker 2:It's like a Domino's thing, you know, but it's like it's a weird time, Like people will see that shit. They're like, oh yeah, that's, that's some rich shit, you know Hollywood Right, Like everybody thought that him and Janet were the perfect fucking marriage bro. There's a time where I was reading.
Speaker 1:I was like that's lovely yeah and J Cole said it in one of his songs too, I think it was oh that will and Jada love.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he said that shit in the fucking no Role Model song. That will, and that Jada what did he say? That Jada and that will love. Yeah, that Jada and that will love. Shit dog, I'm sure now that didn't age well. Obviously sorry, J Cole. You meant well, sir, but that line did not age well. But could you blame him? He didn't fucking know what goes on in their household. He was just going based off of what we knew, everybody knew.
Speaker 2:But that's why celebrity status is all that stuff is deceptive. Not only that, not just because they're celebrities, just because it's another person, it's like you don't know what.
Speaker 1:You don't fucking know you don't and you're doing what you want by what you say. It's kind of like how people are in life with us too dude.
Speaker 2:People aren't going to show you what they want you to see.
Speaker 1:They're only going to post their wins on Instagram. They're not going to post losses.
Speaker 2:They don't know. And the real shit is going on. You can. People will compare Instagram right? Oh, they're married. Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know talking about shit.
Speaker 1:But again they're going off of what they're telling us.
Speaker 2:They're showing you that as good. You don't know exactly what the fuck's going on.
Speaker 2:So for you to even deify or put them on a pedestal, because that's what, you see, you don't know. And when people get into it for themselves, they're like, oh shit, now I see, and it's like what were you getting about? The shit facts then that's why you shouldn't, you shouldn't, um, that's why that's why I stopped doing that shit too. You know, seeing people like you know, I want it like that, it's like I, you have no idea what the fuck, what the fuck's going on, even like some people wish they were like so-and-so or whoever right, that people all have a someone who they would probably like to be, as you know, know, you have no idea what that person is.
Speaker 2:You have no idea who that person is. You have no idea how they live their life. You have no idea. I was about to say that, and then you know what it is, bro.
Speaker 1:You have none. They're basing it off of what they show us. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I want to be like them.
Speaker 1:No, you want to be like what they're portraying. Yeah, people, when you're a consumer.
Speaker 2:You're going to fall for that shit.
Speaker 1:No, I agree, I agree, but would you also say Furious, that we're also kind of like in a way. I think your true character does eventually show through, even if you are pretending. Yeah, Just think about it.
Speaker 2:You can't hide that shit. Exactly, you can't hide it.
Speaker 1:Which is why I'm saying that, because it circles back to Diddy the topic. So it's like he had little instances where it would peek through the cracks. It would still show you Right, and it was still, and you'd be like wait a minute, that was weird. Then another okay, another instance would happen, another incident, another incident, another incident.
Speaker 2:But because you don't know, you can't pinpoint it Exactly.
Speaker 1:Then he'd be like oh no, guys, it wasn't me, I was in a dark place. Like did you see, are you in your apology, bro? Did you see, get the?
Speaker 2:fuck out of here which one. All right, you see the video with fucking. Uh, it wasn't jimmy fallon, it was jimmy kimmel did. He was on jimmy kimmel right and kimmel asked him what he asked him. He asked him a fucking question, bro, like he asked me like like, just, very like nonchalant, just you know nonchalant but direct, right, because obviously Diddy did it on the stage, right Facts and Diddy pauses for like 10 seconds, he's just-.
Speaker 2:He know how to answer it he looks like piss, he's just like and then he's like man. I thought we was friends, jimmy. What did Jimmy ask about? I don't know what he asked him, bro.
Speaker 2:But he asked him some fucking shit. I asked him some super. He asked him some shit, bro, and I was just like whoa and like, looking back though it's like you can, knowing what's what's out, now it's like, oh shit, he was just hiding, bro, and the thing is too, he asked some hard questions you don't answer and it's like what you don't know, bro, you just don't know. So when it does happen, like let's say you have that's crazy, but let's say that like you have a weird, let's say like we're at work, right, or whatever, yeah, right. Let's say like we're like beefing, right, but no one else knows, right and we're acting weird or whatever.
Speaker 1:Right with each other.
Speaker 2:Yeah, someone might be like hey, man, what's up, like what's how, and that does I see what you're saying? It was like that moment, yeah okay, and then now everyone's going back on all of his interviews and they're like pinpoint they're looking for weird moments, tells like how he's reacting. That's true, bro. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So it's yeah, that's a good way to look at it, bro, and I mean, hey, there has been instances like that at work, man, where I'm having an off day, or even you, not to give any real, real scenarios or anything but where you're a little off and everybody senses it.
Speaker 1:That happens in real life for everybody all the time so, and that's because we're human and it's like that. It's like that video. I showed you that one time, man, so there's a part of it and this. I don't know why, but it's probably not relevant, but I'm uploading here anyway where Kyrie Irving was like I'm allowed to be human. He's got a point. Some days you're going to feel happy. Some days you're going to feel sad. Some days you're going to feel like you in your life that you just don't have control over.
Speaker 2:That just annoy you put you in a bad mood. That's but yeah, but that's yeah, but that's that's general human living.
Speaker 1:No, I know but I'm just saying that because I feel like it correlates with this whole thing.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying and that's what that and that was Context, that part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it was. You're right, it was without the context. We didn't know what the fuck it was yeah To us as humans?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he just.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, by no way am I justifying whatever the fuck the awkward silence was about. We know that there's something clearly was going on there. We don't know, we don't quite. The trial is even going to start yet. Do you have an idea when that's going to happen or no? Because I I know. Okay, guys, I'm going to google it right now. I'll look it up. Right now I don't, I don't have a date, but I know. No, no, I'm not going to google that. Sorry, I should clarify what I'm trying to say. My bad, I'm going to google the supermax prison that he's being held at. I do know that he was denied bail wherever he's being held right now, because they don't want this fucker to walk around free right now. Clearly, right, you don't want this guy to walk around because if you let him walk around free, he'll try to leave some other fuck either either he's gonna try to leave the country or he's gonna get killed, or epstein, like they're saying what you got.
Speaker 2:So there's this thing right here. So this is one thing that I saw. I heard that it was his name, steve Harvey. Out of nowhere, he just left the country. Really After this fool got booked, supposedly this fool left. This fool went traveling somewhere. He ain't gonna come back for a while. Huh, who knows, it's just impeccable timing.
Speaker 1:I did see something. It's crazy. You said that I did see something on one of these videos that I was rushing up on before we recorded the episode. Today I saw something, bro, that got my attention. It was like, remember, this is a domino effect. It's really rare when you see the feds go after somebody this hard and when they know that there's going to be a train of people, they're going to pull down. Not just Diddy, they're going for Diddy. Don't get me wrong. Yeah, sean Combs is fucked. No more Sean John. No more Sean John. Sorry, buddy.
Speaker 1:He's going down, but there's other people that are going to go down with him and the feds know this. They know that he has these tapes. They know that he's probably going to crack on these people and give up a list whether that happens on the stand or that happens some other way. Im on these people and give up a list whether that happens on the stand or that happens some other way in prison to his fucking cellmate. Who fucking knows bro? Point is, they know it right. So they're going after a lot of people in Hollywood. Like you said, man, this is going to change a lot of people's lives, and not just his.
Speaker 1:He said he has proof he's taking people down with him. He said it in the rap Steve Harvey mysteriously leaves. You're going to start seeing some of the people mysteriously disappear out of the spotlight all of a sudden man, and we're going to see. No more family feud guys.
Speaker 2:It's going to be gradual. I think it's going to be very gradual Even with how the names come out. It's going to be very gradual with how everyone's prosecuted all kinds of shit. It's going to go on his trial by the end of the year or next year.
Speaker 1:That's my timetable guess too, I'm going to Google the name of the prison that he's in, though, but I heard it's really bad. I heard living conditions in there are horrible.
Speaker 2:I heard a lot of shit, bro, about that.
Speaker 1:actually Watch out, for we having a fucking ball and shit. Hey, what's up guys? Hey, Come on, now I'm alive and kicking. Y'all know Can't keep me down. Ain't nothing like a Diddy party man. I be throwing parties inside this bitch. What prison, let's see, is. Some people call them Sean Diddy Combs too. It's kind of cringy. Some people call him Sean Diddy Combs too. It's kinda it's kinda cringy.
Speaker 1:Sean Diddy Combs went prison that's crazy man being currently held in supposedly okay the Metropolitan Detention Center. Supposedly okay, the metropolitan detention center it doesn't say which one the mansion of misery. A glimpse inside the prison. Sean Diddy comes and now calls home the mansion of misery yo, some of these writers dude, that sounds like a fucking this is CNN bro.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:So apparently this prison is described as disgusting, with horrifying conditions. The detention center music mogul Sean Diddy Combs now calls home is a far cry from his Miami and Los Angeles mansions he once lived in. When he wakes up, he's staring at a cinder block painted white walls. He's staring at cinder block painted white walls as opposed to whatever decor of his mansions were. Michael Cohen, president, donald Trump's former fixer, told CNN on Wednesday why did they put all that? Michael Cohen President, donald Trump's former fixer, you got to give credit.
Speaker 1:You got to just get all that in there. And he says, excuse me, cohen should know he is among several high-profile inmates who have served time in New York City's notorious Metropolitan Detention Center Apparently, that's what it's called, I guess that's the name of it and it's actually notorious. It's in New York and it's known to be ran by the guards. It's just complete shit. Diddy's probably taking it in the ass every night, supposedly. Sorry, I just added that in there, but if he is, he's probably enjoying it. So where's the baby oil at y'all? Break that shit out. What's up? I'm sorry, I'm done, bro. You thought I wouldn't like this, huh you thought I'd be against it.
Speaker 2:Huh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll never. Really clearly, you guys have never been to one of my parties, man.
Speaker 2:You know. What's crazy, though, is that I know how they said in that article oh, this is a far cry from what he's used to right. Yeah, bro, he's already lived a rich life, bro.
Speaker 1:He's not yeah.
Speaker 2:So the thing is, he's already. I'm not going to say that he's won right, but he's one right, but he's already had the, he's already lived his life, he's already gotten away with this shit. Like bro. He's almost. I don't know how old he is, but I'm saying what, maybe like 60, close to 60, probably. Yeah, how old is he?
Speaker 1:Oh did he.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:That's a good question. I have no idea. 54, 54 years old, 54 he lived a good portion of his life.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying so that there's there's, there's still some youth there, right, but he's, he's bro since the night bro, since 20 years old bro, damn near, or like 23 or 24 he's been. You know, I'm saying it's been damn with 30 years bro it has been damn near 30 years or more.
Speaker 2:You know, yeah, he's lived, he's lived, he's lived a lavish life up until up until this point, right. So taking it away from him now, I'm pretty sure it's a blow to him, right, but yeah, he's still got memories, you know. I mean he's still, he's lived a life. You know facts. So what's the, what's the punishment, what's that? I was saying, what's the? I mean, I don't know what's the.
Speaker 1:I was gonna go something else. What's reading this?
Speaker 2:what's a, what's a befitting punishment?
Speaker 1:you know we're gonna get to that, but we're gonna ask you what you think his overall sentence should be. I have an idea, but that's kind of what do you think, cuz it's like he's already lived he's?
Speaker 2:are you think that it's like he's already lived? He's already. Do you think that?
Speaker 1:he'd be okay living in prison the rest of his days I'm pretty sure he'd rather be at home, of course, obviously anyone would rather be home, but it's like he's already lived that life, done this shit he's already gotten away, yeah, but I don't think anybody wants to end their life in prison, though he doesn't mean he lived, bro.
Speaker 2:He had 30 years of prosperity.
Speaker 1:Well, look what it says here, bro, let me cut you off. You're right, he hasn't really lived in prosperity, so I get what you're saying. You're basically essentially asking me do I think that a life in prison is enough?
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably not. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So I, unfortunately, Once they have all the evidence, then they should you know I'll share with you what I think is going to be his final verdict, and then you tell me yours. But think about it before we answer and think what you really think he deserves, bro, and what would be a good, suitable punishment if you had that decision to make right. All right, it says the facility has been homed. Oh God, why would they throw this in here, bro? It's like him too. I used to like some of his songs, but not anymore. The facility has been come home to a singer, r Kelly. Are you surprised that his name is in there? I'm really not at this point, bro. I hate to say it like that, but you know what I mean. You see that you're like. Well, can I really say that I'm surprised, because I can't at this point. It sucks to say, but R Kelly apparently was there at one point as well.
Speaker 2:He was there at one point as well. He was probably at those parties too back in the day yeah, bro, and then oh yeah, no for sure.
Speaker 1:Then it says a federal judge. And this last thing I'll read about this right the federal judge denied combs bail on wednesday, saying the bail proposal set forth by his defense attorneys was insufficient in addressing the court's concerns, judge Andrew Carter said that there were no condition or conditions that would reduce the risk of a witness tampering or tampering with or obstruction in Combs's case. As such, the entertainer is to remain in federal custody until he faces trial on racketeering, conspiracy and sex trafficking charges. Sheesh Racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking charges. Sheesh Racketeering conspiracy and sex trafficking charges. Combs has pleaded not guilty to the charges. No shit, of course. He pleaded no guilty. Am I an asshole for laughing?
Speaker 2:Bro imagine.
Speaker 1:Am. I Nah, I'm just saying sorry, imagine what Just imagine like with the stuff that the feds say sorry. Imagine, what Just imagine like.
Speaker 2:With the stuff that the feds Like recovered. Right, just imagine, let's just say right. Imagine this fool was like A step ahead and like Already wiped the shit and they got nothing. Or like he gave them like Fucking.
Speaker 1:Well then shit.
Speaker 2:He gave them like A fucking recipe for Fucking chicken soup or some shit.
Speaker 1:Imagine he's like Read the list out loud, out loud for the jury.
Speaker 2:They're like uh, ramen noodle.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought, motherfuckers bro imagine that would be fucking crazy if he got that out, bro, if that outcome actually was the case because I mean he's saying not not guilty, and I know people just say not guilty so it just delays it, you know it does, it just delays it and but I mean, what if he, what if what he was a step ahead you know, and I guess he has a drop on all us fools, you know because I mean, even with cosby, right after a while, after so many allegations came out, they fucking booked cosby and they got him. They booked him. You know, they didn't have to rate it.
Speaker 1:I mean I don't know what was the outcome of his? Do you, you know?
Speaker 2:Let me see, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I was wondering if you could look that up. I don't know, I'm not sure, I didn't see it. Bill Cosby was released in 2021.
Speaker 2:Oh, he was. He was released because the court ruled that the prosecutor who brought the case had violated a previous agreement not to charge Cosby, so it doesn't mean that he didn't. It didn't happen. The sexual assault conviction was overturned. The court ruled that the prosecutor who brought the case had violated a previous agreement not to charge Cosby.
Speaker 1:Wait a minute, hold on. But that shouldn't fucking matter. If he's guilty of something, he's guilty of something.
Speaker 2:But think about it though. Remember that whole policy thing. You know, if you don't go about it by the book oh yeah, you can. It's like reading someone their fucking.
Speaker 1:Miranda rights. Dang bro. People find ways to weasel shit around people it doesn't mean that that shit didn't happen fuck damn bro, that's a hell of a loophole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a hell of a loophole yeah, that's a hell of a loophole if you know the law if you know the law like you know like you can really get away with some get away with some shit. That's why these rich fools, bro, have their own personal lawyers and shit damn, that's a hell of a loophole.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean which is pretty smart.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. I mean just cause you're doing bad shit, you know. I mean you probably, you probably wouldn't want to have a lawyer with you know, just to know. But obviously, if you're doing fuck shit, I think to be the safest bet, right, but also, you know that that's also just to protect people just from freaking people who are just out to get them. You know I'm saying that's so. This is double-edged sword, crazy huh more.
Speaker 1:And more bodies. Now they're all moving. I'm just saying, man, I don't know, like you said, it's just no one. Ah, man, okay, I want to do something before we wrap the episode, before we get to the part of this where we're going to say yeah, before we get to that, who do you think is honestly going to come up on his list?
Speaker 2:the quote unquote diddy list, the ones who were in the pictures. Do you For sure? I think for sure.
Speaker 1:At least one, yeah, and some people, some people that have been to his openly LeBron might even be there. Man Bro, everyone's been there, lebron.
Speaker 2:I mean he's. There's just been videos of him talking about it. You know all them like he's always kind of seen, kind of sus to me, but they've all been, but they've all seen, because he's kind of been like in the background, but they've all been seen in pictures together at these, you know, in the at the all these stuff, yeah, white parties, whatever, whatever.
Speaker 2:So they're all they all mingle together, you know. So I think anyone who's on the camera footage is getting called in. And so, uh, your honor. Apparently no one knew that they were on camera.
Speaker 1:No, one knew that they were is getting called in.
Speaker 2:So your Honor. Apparently, no one knew that they were on camera. No one knew that they were on camera.
Speaker 1:Wait, you supposedly, according to Diddy's lawyer, all these adults are consenting adults. They're all aware, they watched the tapes, they're all aware and they all know about the tapes. That means that if you're consenting, you would have to know about the recording right.
Speaker 2:Which means oh man.
Speaker 1:Shit. Well, I'm going to say it again, because this is the perfect time for this one. I'm sorry. Congratulations, you played yourself. All of you that did it, and even if DJ Khaled's fat ass was there and he also has to take his own word, congratulations you played yourself.
Speaker 2:I would not doubt that at all.
Speaker 1:Chunky Boy, you know he was there. Probably did some fuck shit too.
Speaker 2:They all hang out together from time to time. Oh my goodness, I'm not sure if they all participate in that shit.
Speaker 1:Well, I guess it's also fair to say Fatality. That's just weird, though Shit. Then he's like I'll take him all with me and y'all can be fatality with me. What are we gonna do, man? If you just say these people are cooked, I'd say they're cooked, there's no other way out of it, man, unless he keeps his mouth shut and just takes it on the chin. I don't see that, though he he's not.
Speaker 1:Unless If he knows that he's fucked right. He's at the point of his Because, you know, the world's going to be watching this trial like crazy. Yeah, they're going to be covering it like crazy.
Speaker 2:But you know he's getting all kinds of phone calls. It was like the whole Amber Heard and fucking Johnny Depp shit that was like child's play, though I mean it was fucked up to see how—.
Speaker 1:But it was still covered. But my point is look how heavily that was covered.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it was fucked up to see how far, bro, until you have evidence in that kind of situation, they'll fucking take you down bro. Bro, johnny Depp was losing roles bro.
Speaker 1:He was losing money. He was.
Speaker 2:Just because she went fucking crazy on his ass and then luckily he fucking at least he got to keep his likeness luckily, he secretly recorded the fucking shit and it proved that she was lying and full of shit.
Speaker 1:Did she really shit on his bed? I?
Speaker 2:don't know about that. I don't think that. I don't think that was recorded, but I know like the little scene where they're in the kitchen arguing and shit like she looks like that's the Okay.
Speaker 1:So there was a visual, not just audio? Nah, Because they showed a lot of audio. I heard a lot of audio and shit.
Speaker 2:I think there's Unless. Maybe it was audio.
Speaker 1:That's actually smart. I think it was a video. Did he record it? It was him recording the audio. Huh yeah, he's wise for doing that shit. He would record the arguments.
Speaker 2:Oh, dude, you got to have the facts, you, he did that for his own Damn dude.
Speaker 1:She was hella toxic, bro, bro. He was fucked up too, though. Let's be honest, bro was on drugs too, though Either drugs or alcohol, or he was under the influence of something too for sure, depp wasn't in his right mind either, but I am glad that he won. I think he deserved that win, and Amber was out of place but that's besides the point we're not talking about them today anyway, there is a video.
Speaker 2:Is there that's?
Speaker 1:crazy. I know there was plenty of audio Off topic. Daycare is going to be here in eight minutes. Perfect, so it worked out. We got a whole episode in brother. Good shit man Knocked it out. I mean, like I said, it wasn't going to be the longest because it's about this. I knew it was going to be that long. Anyway, I knew going into it, yeah you know, what I mean.
Speaker 1:It'd be okay, it'd be a decent episode after all the edits, maybe 45 minutes, 50 minutes, that's still not bad right, you know what I mean, but alright, man, so I was going to say I brought that up, and then did you have anything else you wanted to into our final verdicts of what we think his punishment should be?
Speaker 2:and then we wrap this episode. I just want to know who's involved. That's it. I know we're going to have that answer.
Speaker 1:But who do you think? Who do you think it is Just people that are on the videos, like you said, like what I already asked you, that, Sorry, I already asked you that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think when it's gonna be actors and shit and like you know musicians more so than artists, more so than influencers like always it's gonna be more around entertainment you know where you know saying I wonder if bieber's's going to come forward and talk about his fucking experience.
Speaker 1:Yeah, usher too, man. That video was creepy man. It was creepy. That one was super creepy man.
Speaker 2:I got you for the next 48 hours.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I felt awkward for him, bro, and then Usher's too. Bro, Usher even admitted that he saw shit that he probably shouldn't have been looking at Him too. So him too. So I'm just saying man and he lived there, he's for sure going to get called bro.
Speaker 2:There's no way, bro. You're going to see them on Bro. I heard even Oprah. I heard Oprah's name too, bro.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, Haran Harpo.
Speaker 2:I don't know about Harpo, but I definitely heard Oprah's name.
Speaker 1:Who's Harpo? I don't even watch that show. You might think, okay, I don't know either. I was going to ask you who that was, if you knew, because the only reason why I know there even is a Harpo just for the facts, for everybody who knows is watching and listening right now. Dane Cook you know I'm a big fan of Dane Cook, bro. I love Dane Cook's comedy. I don't care, I know he's old. I'm talking about his Tebow recording five or six hours of Oprah. He's like apparently my Tebow thought I needed to have some Harpo in my life for a little bit. I was like who the fuck is Harpo? So I was like I know there's a friend of hers or a co-host, I don't fucking know, but anyway, maybe both of them were there.
Speaker 1:I don't know who the fuck I mean I saw the picture with the sabbath is all not even surprising me at this point, bro huh, it's not surprising anymore at this point, man.
Speaker 2:It's not, bro. It's like. Hollywood is just a weird uh you know ecosystem. It is weird, bro. You got from like will and jada to who else? Fucking kevin spacey's, you got the, the. Oh, the freaking Kardashian's name came up too with that shit. I heard.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh yeah, and I even heard that Kim went down to see him in prison.
Speaker 2:Oh shit.
Speaker 1:And supposedly she went to visit him. That's a rumor.
Speaker 2:Take that with a grain of salt, people.
Speaker 1:But supposedly she went to go see him. Bro. Yeah, I don't know if that. I don't know if she went to go see him directly or his people or who or what like, to make sure her name wasn't gonna get brought up or shown, or she gets imparted. I want to be bro imagine I want to be surprised that she was taking part in this freak off shit bro and she was in there with her big ass, titties and fake ass and all that and fucking partaking in that shit.
Speaker 2:Remember man fucking fucking ray. J you know that shit now obviously that's a separate thing, right that's. That's not a freak off or anything like that but I mean she did.
Speaker 1:Here's a hot take she didn't make like five million off that video she probably did. No, she did, I heard. I heard about that with the ray j shit. All right, man. So we're at that part of the episode. Final verdict what do you think sean, mr sean diddy combs, as as the writers call him, deserves for all this bro? What should his sentence be?
Speaker 2:Well, if it's proven, if he's guilty on all accounts I haven't seen all the accounts, but I gotta you know if it's all proven to be right, like with trafficking, including the RAPE accusations. Life Kids, kidnapping, all that accusations yeah that life, kids, and all that life. Life for the chair? No life, I mean I?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I know it sounds gruesome, but I think the death penalty just because I mean he didn't, he didn't, he didn't kill anybody. I know he did, you know, ruin some lives and all that stuff or ruin you know plenty of lives. But I don't think death is just that.
Speaker 1:That wouldn't be well, I only asked because you said, you said life wasn't enough.
Speaker 2:Remember you said that it might not be enough just living in the prison might not, but like I mean, like he, you want him to suffer, he should suffer. I agree, death, death is death is just too easy that's too quick, it's too easy.
Speaker 1:I agree, so I you're actually my answer, which is well, my answer was to him to rot in prison cell the rest of his life.
Speaker 2:I'll'll just say you know, just have him, just don't no like luxuries. You know what I mean? No luxuries.
Speaker 1:No, there's two. Actually, I have two answers. Do you want to hear the really gruesome, disgusting, fucked up version, or do you want to hear my most tamed? One is the one I just told you Rot in a prison cell the rest of his life. Here's the worst scenario.
Speaker 2:Let me guess he's going to get like sodomized and shit, no, castrated.
Speaker 1:And then, when they take his balls and his penis, make him watch a lion eat it in front of him. Why a lion? I don't care. A baboon, whatever, we'll pick the worst animal. Okay, I got a better one. We'll choose the animal that he's the most afraid of to eat his dismembered penis, bro and balls in front of him. Castrate him, okay. Patch him up so he can still live without it. So stop the bleeding so he can survive. And then make him watch it get eaten by an animal I, I can see the castration part.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I wouldn't right.
Speaker 1:Yes, fair right, would you would you that's more?
Speaker 2:I would say. I would say it's more appropriate.
Speaker 1:It's more appropriate.
Speaker 2:Than the death penalty.
Speaker 1:Yes, because now he has to live without his member.
Speaker 2:That was the conduit for that. See why I went there.
Speaker 1:I can't take full credit for that really disgusting, horrifying. Other option I actually saw a YouTuber say that that's what he thinks he deserves, so I was like that's pretty bad, but actually I'm gonna use that. Uh, I can't. Sorry, man, I can't give you credit. I forgot what your name was, not like you know who I am. Anyway, we're gonna watch this ever, but you know, yeah, I think that that would be the more justified approach, just because he is a piece of shit and um, I think that that, like you said, it's justifiable, right, considering the situation that's at hand in front of us. With that being said, though, sir, what are your final thoughts, final tidbits for when we see these guys next week? We let them go.
Speaker 2:Stay safe out there, man, and don't drink the Kool-Aid. Yes, that's a good one.
Speaker 1:I agree, and you know what, guys? I don't want to cut you off. Are you done there? Okay, and as far as mine goes, I want to say the same thing I want to offer you guys to just keep your heads high. Don't keep them too high in the clouds and be distracted by all the shit that's going on in the world. It's good to be informed, but not to be right there, some shit going on in the background. It's good to be informed, but it's it's. Don't let it consume you and just know that there's more to life than what's going on in this world. Uh, you do need to be informed, but you also need to be prepared for everything else and and be well equipped to know that there's more life going on than just this crap, because it is, nine times out of ten, usually a distraction. Would you agree? Yeah, all right.
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