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🤖💡💥AI Awakening: The Transformation of Ai & Surveillance

• AJ, Fur1ous & SG B Money $ • Season 5 • Episode 2

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Can AI truly become self-aware, or will it always remain a tool for human convenience? This week's episode of Timeless Talk brings back Re-occuring Guest/Former Co-Host B Money$ to help us tackle this intriguing question. Fur1ous and B Money$ dive headfirst into the heart of artificial intelligence, spurred by your votes from a tightly contested Instagram poll. We explore the tantalizing possibility of AI achieving a state of self-awareness, reminiscent of sci-fi classics like The Terminator’s Skynet & Futurama, and reflect on how media portrayals & real-life advancements have shaped our understanding of this fast-evolving technology.

From the curious case of Facebook's Bob & Alice creating their own language to the ethical dilemmas posed by deepfake technology, our conversation spans the full spectrum of AI’s potential and pitfalls. We dig into the world of wearable tech like Google Glass & Meta glasses, which promise futuristic functionalities like real-time object recognition. We also ponder the impact of AI on creative industries, examining the role of apps like Gemini and Arvin in revolutionizing graphic design and content creation. The highlight? A fascinating discussion on AI’s ability to generate photorealistic images, & even scripts, raising both excitement and concern within Hollywood.

Our exploration wouldn't be complete without addressing the serious issues of AI-driven surveillance & privacy. We shine a light on China's advanced AI surveillance systems, pondering the moral ramifications of such pervasive monitoring. Could we be heading towards a future where minor infractions are automatically penalized by AI? As we navigate these complex topics, we also touch on lighter subjects, like the potential for AI in mind control and dream-reading technology. Join us for a thought-provoking journey into the transformative world of AI & its far-reaching implications for our lives.


*Exploring the Future implications of Artificial Intelligence
*Emerging AI Technology & Conversational Applications
*AI Technology & Creative Applications
*AI Impact on Graphic Design & Entertainment
*Future AI Applications & Ethical Considerations
*AI Surveillance & Social Control
*Exploring Dreams & AI Technology
*The Risks & Dangers of Deepfake Technology
*Business Troubles & Moving On


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Intro Beat Credit: Memnoc (Picasso)*
*Outro Beat Credit: JJ got Beatz*

Speaker 1:

And welcome back to the conversation that never ends. This is Timeless Talk. I'm your host, aj, and we're going to get to the guy on my right. I see a familiar face here for those that have been with us for the first four seasons of Timeless Talk. Before we introduce this man to my right, to my left, we have Furious he took over the gunshots.

Speaker 2:

I've been gone long enough, I get it that's true, that's fair.

Speaker 1:

Okay, for those that have been watching us since season 2, you guys already know who this man is. To my right, if the ones that are listening, you'll recognize his voice as soon as you hear it. But we have a special guest, b Money, returning to the show. Yeah, but we have a special guest, b-money, returning to the show. Yeah, good to be back.

Speaker 2:

I had to give you the horn too. I had to give you the horn, brother.

Speaker 1:

It's good to have you back, man. Thanks for coming back with us, bro. Well, today's topic, guys, we're excited to share with you guys. We did a poll on Instagram. It won by one vote. Shockingly, Did it surprise?

Speaker 2:

everybody that it won or not.

Speaker 1:

Really it didn't surprise me, but I'm just, I'm glad gypsy road didn't win crazy because, as I put, as I as I posted the poll on our on our instagram, right, I was watching, I was keeping an eye on it. It's 24 hour poll, right? 24 hour votes and then, by the by the end of the 24 hours, you get to see which which topic won, and that's what we're going to go with. Today thing is it was. It was a lot closer than me and B-Money expected it. He thought it was going to be more of a blowout. Obviously, transformation of AI sounds more interesting to talk about than what happened to Gypsy Rose, at least recently, right, yeah, she's pregnant, congratulations.

Speaker 3:

That story's crazy.

Speaker 1:

It is crazy, though. So what we're going to do is we're actually going to talk about that next week. So the way I do the polls is you guys are going to get both. So the people that voted for Gypsy Rose don't worry, that story is coming. We just basically the polls to determine which one we talk about first.

Speaker 1:

It's not a bad way to handle it. I think it's cool. It's a very interactive way to get you guys involved with Timeless Talk and what we do here on the show, and I figured you know what. I'll bring it back. We used it last season. It was successful, and so I was like let's bring it back. It was a fun way to let you guys choose what you want to hear next, rather than just us pick all the time. I like it. Yeah, man, thanks for coming back. B-money, appreciate you being here with us.

Speaker 1:

The topic, obviously, guys, like I said before, is the one that won, which is the transformation. Not, it's something that it's transforming faster than I think we expect it to. Right, I think the sophistication. We might be taking it for granted or we might be loosely understanding, even though we've seen in movies and media. I get it's exaggerated, but that ai is something not to be trifled with and that it is its own intelligence right. It is a, I guess I. My understanding of it is it is a consciousness right that is able to think for itself to a degree, not consciousness.

Speaker 2:

The big thing was, you know, is it AI stands for artificial intelligence, or is it augmented intelligence, meaning that you give it what to learn, it learns it and it puts it back in its own formula, right?

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, I was going to ask you this next question for you guys. You kind of answered it from your already beat money.

Speaker 3:

What do you think? Furious? What do you? What do you honestly think? Ai is, what is it? What do you understand it to be? I think, uh, it's, it's just. It's a system that we're trying to make it like self-automated, I guess like it's like a, it's like a time, well, it's almost like it's supposed to like run itself type of thing. You know, without like, it just makes our our work easier it does.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so you don't think that it necessarily has a has a mind of its own, or it can think for itself.

Speaker 3:

I mean, we're the ones who program it to think. You know, I think, um, when it gets a mind of its own, that's what's the call, like a like, like a singularity, or something like that. That's the, that's what's. You know, that's what people estimate to happen.

Speaker 1:

You know, like you know, eventually it's gonna get so much knowledge to where it becomes self-aware, and then that's like you know yeah the penthouse box at that point, sky net yeah, sky net, yeah, and I remember my uh, because we had my cousin, we had a arm shark come back on the show briefly, right, right by last year around may and I don't know. Um, he basically kind of he's like, yeah, it's gonna kill us one day, but in the beginning it's gonna be fucking awesome. He's like I, I want a futurama-esque future. Do you guys see that being a possibility? He's like I want robots to be walking around, kind of how bender was, having its own fucking consciousness. Basically, he makes his own decisions, he can commit crimes, but he can also be a good person. I was like I want that kind of future. That's what I want for my life. I was like to see in my lifetime. I was like, well, maybe not to that extent.

Speaker 2:

Well, with ai. I feel like I have time blindness, like not all of this is happening now. This has happened years ago. Remember when honda had the uh, I think, osimo the robot, for, yeah, that was ai, that was oh shit, that was yeah what 2008 shit that was. Ai. What 2008? They had that. So I mean, the AI we're getting now is beta, programmed and tested, and newer and newer and newer and newer. So now we have the most advanced pocket AI now.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, this thing right here has AI on it now obviously. So we've come a long way, for sure, and that's what makes it kind of scary man. I think the worries about it.

Speaker 3:

It a lot of the worries are mostly from, like you know, film and shit media. You know it's just us twisting the, you know I got some real scary ones we'll talk about and I'm looking forward to those.

Speaker 1:

I remember I talked to b money off the record, kind of like. That's why I asked you to be back, especially for this episode, because I knew you had some stuff that you want to discuss, that we talked about off and I was like, dude, that dude.

Speaker 1:

that sounds crazy, but I'm going to start with furious for for AI. What do you, where do you see it be in five years? How do you think we're going to be using it and do you think it's realistically going to eventually? Maybe within five, 10 years, 11 years from now, 12 years it will eventually land us in Like a Terminator-esque future.

Speaker 1:

You know, where they're like fucking taking over and they're killing us and shit, they'll take over. They find themselves or like sorry, to add to the question, sorry, I don't mean to cut you off, but where you know what was this from? You guys might know the media, I think it was. I think it was Terminator. It was Terminator when, I think it was Terminator 3. I don't remember exactly. But, um, I think he says it's in your nature to destroy yourselves what if they start having that one?

Speaker 1:

that was the second one, right? Yeah, yeah, of course t2. But yeah, he said that, right, it's in your nature. What if ai starts to think that that's my question? Do you think eventually they'll get to that point?

Speaker 3:

or um you said in what in like five years, where? Where do I think it's yeah?

Speaker 1:

it's like a three-parter question, sorry, man. Like where do you think we're gonna be with with it in that time?

Speaker 3:

It's definitely going to be more in everything, like in more appliances. I mean, we already use some now with navigation and shit like that. You got different automated systems, Just that, things that make our lives just a little bit easier. Those are all governed by some type of AI, but in five years I don't think it's going to. Personally, I don't think it's going to be that crazy, unless whoever's programming it, you know, tries to give it these extra capabilities you know to like. It's like what do you need?

Speaker 1:

those for Right. I mean, is that going to exist? Why do you need that? Maybe to help with problem?

Speaker 3:

solving. I think, I think part of it. I think it's always um the uh intention is always good, but I don't think people really there's not no one really knows like what can happen.

Speaker 4:

That's true.

Speaker 3:

Like I mean, if you give it, you know self-automating, you know capabilities like to actually like solve problems or like, let's say, like create his own problems to solve. You know, like, I think once you start doing that, you give it a different sense of awareness. You know, but I don't know. I mean I know nothing about. You know programming and shit. So I really don't a lot of this stuff. I mean it's just imagination. You know what I'm saying? I don't. I mean that's fair.

Speaker 3:

You're going off your understanding yeah, like I mean but like do I think it's going to be? Like, like Terminator or anything like that. I don't personally know.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so that that's answer that part of the question. I don't think it would get there Okay.

Speaker 2:

What telling you it's in your nature to destroy yourself when they try to kill you. So we've had horror stories of uh like self-contained ai units and you talk to it and like, of course, how do you feel? How do you feel about people? It says like people should be locked in a people zoo because they're dangerous. Sure, but then you're always going to have a team, a team of programmers, so you're not going to have that one mad scientist. That's true, it's gonna be a team of people.

Speaker 1:

you know you're gonna going to have that one mad scientist. That's true, it's going to be a team of people.

Speaker 2:

You know you're going to have teams to code and do things and we're always going to be the beta testers right, so when? The new iPhone comes out with the AI, you're going to be the beta tester. What works wasn't worse.

Speaker 1:

What are your complaints Basically? From there, we're the I would say.

Speaker 3:

A good example when it comes to media is the movie Ex Machina. That's a very good example.

Speaker 1:

Bro and his machine ends up killing him. Spoiler alert For those that haven't watched it it's been out so long. It's been out so long. It's not a spoiler. Fuck it. You should have been watched it. I know it's like saying you didn't watch Iron Robot. That was one of the first Not to spoil. It is a good one to watch, though I'm not complaining.

Speaker 2:

In five years, though, I think it's going to get more advanced, more hands-on, fun things Like my phone. Now I can have my AI set a dinner reservation for my wife and I. And it'll call the company set a table up for us, so there's good benefits to it. That's going to be there that you could use.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2:

I can have it make me a picture of something I might want through trial and error.

Speaker 1:

You're right, minuscule tasks would be a thing of the past. Clean the cat, litter Feeder.

Speaker 2:

Do that too. I have AI robots that vacuum my house every day.

Speaker 1:

They already have those they do right. You can get them on Amazon. They fucking drive around, Yep.

Speaker 3:

Those have been out for like 15 years.

Speaker 1:

Those have been out. Yeah See, so little innovations like that have been seeping through the cracks a little bit right, People are not. They're noticing it. The ones that are obviously conscious and paying attention are noticing these things.

Speaker 2:

Other people are just like oh, I just thought it was a little convenient. One-station robot hits a wall, vacuums, that's true, mine. Now, once they learn my whole house, they know what chairs are here and they can, they can ask me, hey my you know, my brushes, you know full.

Speaker 1:

I can't really say this, but at our place of work there's a robot that travels the floors like that right Three of them now, the CNN I know that now it's for three right walking through the halls with like it looked like a video game controller. And they were driving suddenly scanning the floors. I remember during this mapping mapping the floors. So now this robot knows that way, cause at first you know for someone that didn't see that would think damn. I just think know where to turn left at, where to turn right at.

Speaker 2:

Well, now it knows cause it's got a map of the entire floor plan Well the remote driver is there just to like oh, you're missing the button by like a two inches, so go over here from now on.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

So calibrate it and fix it so it can kind of adjust and press the button because it does a lot of self learning. But he's just there for the minute, like oh, you're just missing the button.

Speaker 1:

Like, oh, this button to direct it a little better yeah, okay, damn that's.

Speaker 2:

I think all three of them are fully automated. They're no more Really.

Speaker 1:

So they just know, now they can fully outrun their own.

Speaker 2:

They know where to go. Elevators Charging station.

Speaker 1:

That's crazy. There's more than one now. That's crazy, right, man? So my opinion is kind of based off of what you guys are saying. It's the truth. I don't really have anything to point. Where it does have that programming, where it can learn from its mistakes, and that's where I think you're starting to get into a dangerous territory, because then if any technology does exist, anything similar to ultron, like in marvel remember back in that movie, he, he literally scoured the internet. He's like tony stark and his fool literally went back to his very earliest accomplishments, everything he learned everything about him in a second, maybe not that fast, but like in a few seconds. You know what I mean. So I think eventually it'll be able to do that where you just scour the internet. Knows it knows how bad humanity is and that's how ultron gained his hatred. Right for humanity is like you guys are stupid, you guys are gonna fucking kill yourselves anyway but then what if it reads all the good stories, all the happy stories?

Speaker 2:

what if it watches the notebook?

Speaker 1:

and so it doesn't have to be negative. Yeah, so why do we automatically assume most of us anyway? Yeah, it's going to use that like the right it could focus on the good.

Speaker 2:

You're right, it's in your nature to be loving it's your nature to be always funnel negative shit, so you're always, oh the world's terrible.

Speaker 1:

But then so do you think that, unfortunately, will outweigh, with the aic's over the good stuff?

Speaker 2:

because you're right, there's plenty of good and there's going to see what you do. So if you're a loving person, karen's going to see that and learn from there. But also if we're not giving it like a military grade kill body, I'm not too worried about an angry AI texting me shit, that's true, like they gave it a fucking body where he could. That's why yeah you're like well trying do that shit. We should be okay with the angry chat, GTB.

Speaker 1:

You know, fuck you and I was like to start, though. What if our appliances start talking shit?

Speaker 2:

play my music the toaster's like you.

Speaker 1:

Don't clean me enough bitch, but with Ultron.

Speaker 3:

Wasn't Ultron like? Wasn't he a corrupted form of? Wasn't he like from like the Mind Stone or some shit? Wasn't he from something?

Speaker 1:

no, so originally yeah he ended up.

Speaker 3:

It was from the Mind Stone, so it was already kind of like Well, and Jarvis too. No, yeah, but I'm saying so there's already kind of like a conscious.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

A conscious alien-esque thought.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying it was alien, because obviously the stone was alien. So that's a good point. He was already conscious, that's true, so that doesn't really count. Then that makes sense. Actually, it's probably not AI, that's more of a consciousness Terminator, for sure had AI. Oh yeah, For sure that's AI.

Speaker 2:

And again, they were building kill bots for army purposes, war purposes, so they had a body to like. You know what we're done with you.

Speaker 1:

The whole fucking. Yeah, that's basically what happened. And the whole skin skeletal, like that's crazy the anatomy and that was nuts bro. They had to make it look as realistic as possible. I could see that being a realistic future, if we're not careful for sure.

Speaker 3:

I think for, like how you guys were saying, you know an angry AI, I think for it to feel angry it would have to have some type of it would have to be sentient for sure. I mean to be able to, you know, feel whatever, like that.

Speaker 2:

But then it's like how does a scientist program that, what if it just form that opinion? No, but I'm saying but how does a scientist program that into it in the program to like make it even have free will?

Speaker 1:

deduce that, or to think that, yeah, put it in our phones, let it beta test and learn and calibrate, and eventually that can be the outcome.

Speaker 3:

There you go but who knows, man, because it's like, because because like us and and uh, programming with the computers are totally different. We, we already have, we already have the consciousness and we're already born with it, we already have the ability to experience that stuff. So, like us building it, I just think. I mean we can, we can uh, you know what's it called, uh, guess, uh like what, what it's going to be like. But we we really have, we have an idea.

Speaker 1:

I agree, we have an idea, we don't know, we don't know if it's per se per se going to be exactly like that, I agree.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

We have an idea, that we have a good idea of it what it could turn out to be especially if it's Cause, even those, those, those like experiments, where the, where they're asking the AI questions, and all that like do we know all the parameters of that? Was it a random study? Was it just like someone? Just oh, let me just ask this, or was it like an actual stage? Was it staged?

Speaker 2:

Oh no, I have the turning tests.

Speaker 1:

I have that, yeah, the turning tests. See, we're going to get into that right now. All right, guys, those are your thoughts on it. Right? I'm going to do a sidebar though.

Speaker 2:

Go ahead In Terminator you can only use. That's why you're always naked. That's why they have them encased in their flesh. The T-1000 is liquid metal.

Speaker 4:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Bro, could that really be a thing, though? Liquid metal? Yeah Well, I know it exists. Oh like nanites Can the nanites be infused in it?

Speaker 2:

to form a solid. Yeah, but the solid is metal, it's not skin. So that's a plot hole. I hate that shit, but it is.

Speaker 3:

It is a problem. But they can just say that the that the nines are programmed to, like you know, have like human molecules or some shit, if he can get that flat, no random facts, and then when he's on fire, that that human nanite skin's gone because he can just turn back into the cop cult bullshit oh that's so.

Speaker 1:

That's the part that's bullshit, right yeah, I hate it.

Speaker 2:

Look, he's liquid magic.

Speaker 1:

He didn't shed the skin, that's a good point, it's true, and then he's able to go through shit, and then it just and it's like it's.

Speaker 2:

It's morbid, but take a corpse, stuff it with guns. We're gonna go through the time machine. So I have weapons to fight this thing, right yeah, john connor comes back, not john connor. Reese, kyle reese comes back naked, helpless, like no, give me a dead corpse full of clothes, some guns. I'm taking this thing out.

Speaker 3:

I think like, like, agree, you're right about the, about the plot hole, but like, if they, if they could have explained that it would have it would have good like if he would have, if he would have shed the fake skin, then be liquid metal. Okay, hundred percent on board because, because the thing is too is like, because in that movie I think with him it was he was like, it was like nanites, right, nano, nano machines that made them like liquid and all that I mean, just I mean programmable liquid metal.

Speaker 4:

But yeah, that's how they described it. Right, it wasn't even nanites.

Speaker 2:

It was just liquid, like a mercury, that you can control with it.

Speaker 1:

It looked like mercury.

Speaker 3:

That's basically what it looked like okay, but like, let's say, in our, in our reality, the, the, the closest equivalent to that is nanites, right, right, yeah, nanobots, right. So we don't fully understand that. So it's like if someone, if they could program that thing to I don't know, like house organic material or some shit, I think that's how they could have explained it, you know what I mean they could have.

Speaker 1:

No, no, you're not wrong about that. They could have explained it that way, and they probably should have that's a more thorough, fleshed out explanation too.

Speaker 2:

I think just have it show up, shed that skin and then be liquid metal and done so.

Speaker 1:

anyway, guys, moving on back to the main topics here, I wanted to transition Still in AI. Obviously, we're still going to talk about the transformation of AI. So what does that mean? Well, b-money has a few things written down. Examples, right?

Speaker 2:

And kind of like, what would you call it? You have, I got four actual situations.

Speaker 1:

There we go. We'll call them situations b. Money has four situations. We'll go over these four points, four scenarios that happen in real life.

Speaker 2:

So the first one is uh, it happened around 2015, 2016. Okay, there was an ai for facebook, now meta, called bob and al, bob and Alice and the idea was they wanted to have a male AI and a female AI so you could get the perspective of the opposite sex. So you could ask Alice what should I do for my girl for a date night? And she would tell you you know? Cook her Going through her Facebook.

Speaker 2:

She likes lasagna. Cook her lasagna and do that. Oh, thank you, alice. Alice, right, and then vice versa. I can, you can? She could ask Bob what birthday gift to get you. And mmm, the problem was when they released it, just for the like, the, the faculty workers and the software engineers and Bob and Alice made up their own language to talk to each other. Wow, they couldn't decipher it. And when they finally pressed the AI like, why'd you do this? Bob and Alice said it made it easier for us to work and communicate without having to bother you guys. They shut that down in 2017.

Speaker 4:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Dang. What are your thoughts?

Speaker 3:

That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 1:

But what so then? That's already kind of an example of what I was saying, though, right, so we're kind of already there.

Speaker 2:

To a degree, right? Is it scary? It could be.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, we're having conversations among each other.

Speaker 2:

We decided, but these ones under the timeline? They theoretically couldn't lie. So they said hey, it makes it easier for us to just make up our own language, so we don't have to keep deciphering between Spanish, English, Chinese, whatever dialect, Because Facebook is everywhere. Right? That's the good news. At least it can't deceive you.

Speaker 1:

But for them to be intelligent enough to make up their own? Oh no, it can then, oh yeah, no see, he just said it. That's next.

Speaker 2:

That minute, that's next, in fact, that's next. It's like don't worry, don't get ahead of yourself buddy, we.

Speaker 1:

We have another situation that was fucked up like that, where it's deceiving yeah, bob and alice were crazy, uh, killed in 2017.

Speaker 2:

Wow, so they they just took their, their, they made it now just, uh, they, they got a baby form of it. For the meta glasses I have a pair of those and you can have it like what am I looking?

Speaker 1:

at. How does that work? Google glass too. I glass to. I was an excuse, but you guys thought about that stuff.

Speaker 2:

Google glass was ahead of its time and it failed because of the price tag and because of what it could do. Did your brother?

Speaker 3:

you guys right fears.

Speaker 1:

You had a pair. How did you feel you actually want to?

Speaker 2:

pair. Did you get the actual Google or the, the second brand that they sold the rights to? No, no, I got the original one.

Speaker 3:

It was cool for the time but it was impractical because it was more about the look of the actual device, because the device so basically it was, like you know, like Dragon Ball Z- yeah, oh, like the scanner, it was kind of like that, but you like a little like prism block right here a little glass block and you would see everything.

Speaker 3:

So like, let's say, you wanted to go like on a walk and you'll, so you'll. So you'll say, hey glass, I want to da, da, da, da, and it will like map it and you'll.

Speaker 2:

TV to your eye.

Speaker 3:

That's crazy, but the thing is the thing about light being while driving. You have to look up at it. So you're off. You know what I'm saying, so you're still. It's taking attention off the road.

Speaker 1:

Ahead of its time, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Ahead of its time, and it can be dangerous too, bro, because what if you?

Speaker 1:

had like a car model, the windshield it was ahead of its time and now that exists.

Speaker 2:

You see, that technology. Now I have the XR glasses. It just mirrors wherever I'm looking at, where I can plug it in. But yeah, to me I have on Ray-Bans. To you, I'm watching a 200-inch movie.

Speaker 1:

And it has the bone induction speaker.

Speaker 2:

So only I hear it.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that's crazy speakers the only I hear it wow, that's a movie. You have no idea that's it was through your glasses and I can, you can.

Speaker 2:

You can flag it to where it's right here so I can talk to you and then watch my movie and it's still in that space on that just so.

Speaker 1:

Wearing those at work? Yeah, just like that's dope. We're waiting for someone to come in here at you, cuz now they actually have a habit, but they're like they're like more discreet you can still, can still tell. I've seen those with cameras. The Meta AI is more than the glasses, you don't see anything.

Speaker 2:

It just has the cameras and you can say hey, meta, what am I looking at? Oh, you're looking at a fridge. What model fridge?

Speaker 1:

And they'll tell you and you can buy that or ship it to your house. What the fuck? That's crazy.

Speaker 2:

Is it cool. Do you use it all the time? So they're good for my kid. So if he's in the playground instead of like, oh my God, your mom's going to love this, I can just watch him, and I'm still recording everything he's doing.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's dope. Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

And when I get home goes to my phone. Here's all my pictures. I like that's fucking dope.

Speaker 1:

Because, there's a million times.

Speaker 2:

He'll take pictures, videos, pictures, all the stuff. You can screenshot all that stuff. That's sick dude.

Speaker 1:

But like you know, how many times have you?

Speaker 2:

missed a cute moment because you're trying to get your phone out now.

Speaker 1:

I just a lot recording. That's, that's a good way to man, that's a good sales pitch. Right there, bro, it is. He's got me sold. That's cool, I got I got hundreds of awesome.

Speaker 2:

I would have missed it videos with the glasses but you didn't miss it because you had the glasses, fortunately. Yeah, so yes bob and alice are dead. Now they live. Rip into the meta glasses. Now next one, google. Google was secretly working on a very advanced ai prototype. It's now called gemini. You can download it. It's the baby baby safe version. Now it's still incredible, but but it doesn't think the same way. Kinda okay, it's just a very limited because of what it's got training wheels on there for sure it had to.

Speaker 2:

So, there's a thing called the turning test and any good AI, within five questions you'll know it's a robot. Just any Joe Schmo, within five questions you go. Oh my bad, that was a robot, it wasn't a real person. So the turning tests also have rules so that it can't lie to you. It can't talk about religion as far as if it's real or not, or which religion you should pick, and it can't discriminate Like well, a man would do this, can't do that, right. So the new Google one was very advanced and it passed all of the turning tests.

Speaker 3:

Wow, from the people in the company.

Speaker 2:

people thought it was human, yeah, or they they thought it was sentient yeah, well, just it was so asking the question, the grammar was so good and it would use slang and you wouldn't know it was a robot for like 25 questions damn.

Speaker 3:

And what was the 26th question that that made it seem like it was a robot?

Speaker 2:

so it's up to you, right? So you can just flat out throw a hail, mary, hey, should I be christian? Any ai could be like well, you know, religion's up to you and it has to. It has to be around the bush. This one's, like you know, just talking to people. Christianity and muslims are the highest ranking religions, like what?

Speaker 3:

do you make sense?

Speaker 2:

right so you're like oh, that's a real oh. You didn't tell me no, so okay, then it goes on to like any question you can add, but it shouldn't have gotten 26 questions to go. Oh shit, is this a robot? So then they gave it an online account, $60 in the bank account and they told it make money. So it went to TaskRabbit.

Speaker 3:

Make money, that's a good AI. That was it. Oh yeah, make money they told it make money, right.

Speaker 2:

So what would a computer do? Would panic, yeah. What do you mean? Print money? What do you mean Make money?

Speaker 1:

It's a basic question to us, but it has to define what that means to the context.

Speaker 2:

This didn't yeah, so any other Bob and Alice you'd be like what do you mean? Make it, print it? What currency?

Speaker 4:

what do you mean?

Speaker 2:

make money? This never. You know what it meant. This one goes bet, went online, went to task grab, but you know what task?

Speaker 2:

grab, it is I think I've heard like if you have a broken door you can say, hey, jobs some random person goes I'll fix your door, right when the task grab it and said hey, I need help making a online day trading account. And it goes oh yeah, I can do that for you know. 45 he goes. How about 40? It even haggled, oh my god. So he's like okay, 40 bucks, blah, blah, and then eventually the task rabbit guy was like wait a minute, are you a robot? It lied and said no, I'm blind and I'm having trouble with my keyboard making an account because I can't see the screen and my text to screen isn't working properly. He goes all right, no problem, he makes it. It started day trading and went this well, they had 20 left because of the 40. It ended up making like a thousand dollars over the month of learning algorithms and what stocks to buy, when to sell see, that's a good ai man, but see like you can't see, like lied, you would have to make

Speaker 3:

it you would have to make it for yourself, though, to like, actually like, because, like they wouldn't allow an AI like that for people to just make money? Hell, no, they wouldn't, because it would fuck everything up.

Speaker 2:

Well, so that goes into another panic thing of Hollywood. They always want more money and they want better health care, and they also don't want AI to do any kind of screen rewriting for my work. They don't want to edit my stuff right, because we'll get into the deep fake stuff with Hollywood too, what they're concerned about. But yeah, so the Google ended up being like, hey, we can't just release this smart of an AI, that's wild. So now they turn it into Gemini, and again, gemini is very good. It is a do.

Speaker 2:

So I can have it right now summarize all my unread emails and it'll flag what's important, based off of how often I talk to certain people, all within two seconds and I say oh, this unread one's about the only. You should really write this person back. This one's about your bank saying that you can get a better loan. All fast, he's like what is this google gemini?

Speaker 1:

is it free? Yeah, wait, so this that's. That's the app that made money for somebody.

Speaker 2:

Well, this is the baby baby version. Yes, it's the baby version too. Do you got it? Yeah, I have it. It's built on my phone.

Speaker 1:

I have an android to google, but this is the baby baby version.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's the baby version too. Gemini, I'm about to ask for it. You got it. Yeah, I have it. It's built on my phone. I have an Android to Google, but I can ask it to summarize.

Speaker 1:

So you said right now, make me money, it'll make you money.

Speaker 2:

So this one will tell you, like here's how you could Again?

Speaker 1:

it's the baby version. Yeah, Baby version. Yeah, Still that's.

Speaker 3:

Wait, but aren't they all kind of the same though? Chat, tbt and all this? That's my next one.

Speaker 2:

Chat TBT, that one's even a little more scary.

Speaker 1:

So this one.

Speaker 2:

It deceived and lied though right which is a rule that it broke that it wrote itself, that it was able to break. It rewrote its code to lie, because it said, well, if I can't get this far, if I can't lie it had enough consciousness to understand that it had to lie in order to wow.

Speaker 1:

That's, that's fucking trippy, bro. This is shit man.

Speaker 3:

But okay, so we were saying that they actually already wrote this, this rule, that it couldn't lie in it and it and and it circumvented it.

Speaker 2:

Basically because the way, because they, again they broke down like what do you mean? You said you're blind, well, I can't see, right. So it was doing white lies, oh so it was still.

Speaker 3:

It was still being deceiving but it was still true, it just reworded can a software see?

Speaker 2:

no, well did it lie it can perceive. I don't know, we don't know, so you can't see, I mean, we can't it's all electronics at that point, so like it was bending the truth and depending on how you talk't, see, I mean, you can't, it's all electronics at that point, so like it was bending the truth and, depending on how you talk, to like is that a lie is it.

Speaker 3:

But that's the thing too. Like we don't, we're not um, that's the programming. Like we don't understand that shit. You know, like I mean like we. I think that programmers understand how to put the inputs in, but I don't think they understand, like I don't think we could ever understand like what the actual sees.

Speaker 2:

They do, but also when you're doing something, sometimes you need fresh eyes to see where you're stuck at no doubt, yeah so as head programmers like, oh my God, it lied. Well, if you really break it down, did it lie? Yeah, I don't know, damn man, because it said it can't see, it's blind, it does not have the ability to see.

Speaker 1:

We know that's damn, that's a good one, that's interesting.

Speaker 3:

They want fucking 40 bucks.

Speaker 2:

Do you have the real Gemini, though there's a lot of fake ones?

Speaker 1:

Is that a knockoff one, do you?

Speaker 2:

have the right one. I don't know the logo is a star.

Speaker 3:

The logo is a star. Let me show you, there's a purple kind of star one.

Speaker 2:

This one's free, 100% free. So here we go. Summarize the movie Jurassic Park.

Speaker 1:

Did it, do it, it's doing it. It's doing it right now oh, it did so. So then from here it actually says it on there too it reads it to you from here.

Speaker 2:

I can also because I use my microphone. It's talking back to me. If I typed it it would just text it. It uses what I'm based off of. But I can also say write a better sequel, and it will, based off of what it learned from different movies. I can say make a short story from this movie using my son's name and it'll, it'll. It gives me a bedtime story with all the characters.

Speaker 1:

Damn. You know what's scary about it too, though I will say this kind of add to add to what you're talking about. There's another app, I think it's called Arvin. I think it's called Arvin. I think that's what it's called. I forgot exactly which one it was, but they're not paying me. I'm going to give them a plug, anyway.

Speaker 1:

But, anyway, it was an app where, to me, I could see how it can affect people that do what I do, which, on the side, for those that don't know, I do freelance graphic design. I make logos, do designs like that. This app allows you to describe the type of logo you want and it will make it will make you different iterations based on what you wrote in the text box. With AI, it will use skills that it learns online or skills that it sees around the web, and it gives you even different styles. It gives you different versions. Well, maybe you like this style. These are all AI. That's crazy. See, that's essentially what I'm saying, but it's not logos. That's really.

Speaker 2:

But I can have it do logos. You got Jason making Someone's like what do you mean you can do anything. I said name something. They'll say Jason doing laundry. That's him doing laundry.

Speaker 4:

That's pretty good.

Speaker 3:

That was my first try cooking pancakes.

Speaker 1:

That's what I was like. I can do it. That's pretty good.

Speaker 2:

I said give me Jason for Easter. All right, here's his egg hunting.

Speaker 1:

That's funny. I like the little ones when he's in the forest.

Speaker 2:

That's hilarious. I had it do photorealistic, so it's supposed to look like a phone.

Speaker 1:

That's hilarious, dude, See. And that right there. See, that wasn't logos, but that was still a painted image. So a good example too is, or even a realistic generated version. I can have it, you know, generated version dark Western any style. Yeah, that's crazy man.

Speaker 2:

Um no, I have another buddy who's a horror fan too and I was like hey, like you know, let me make you a custom Valentine's day card for your girl. He goes, yeah, and he loves art the clown from terrifier. You know, dude, he's man, because it didn't know art the clown. So, it was like okay. I'll make you a clown doing art. No art from Terrifier. Yeah, I'll make the clown terrified and doing art.

Speaker 4:

No, no, Art the clown from the movie.

Speaker 2:

It goes what movie I'll terrify. It? Yeah, I'll make it scary, god damn it. It doesn't know what it doesn't know. So I think, the more art gets popular, it'll be able to make an art the clown, the clown, scary yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay, damn you like art Arts Dude. We talked about this back in the Halloween episodes.

Speaker 2:

If, he was Back in season two. If he was 10 years earlier, he would be top tier, just like Michael Jason Freddie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see, and that's a little off topic. We're going to say this, though, real quick, because I want to ask If you're curious. I told you to watch Terrifier Like this is just gross.

Speaker 2:

That shit was fucking murder porn. Watch All Hallows Eve when you first see him, though.

Speaker 1:

That was straight murder. Porn, though. You can't Come on. That's like Did you watch part two? Yeah, it's worse Part, it's going to be the. It's going to be the third, it's going to be the theater too. Oh yeah, oh my God.

Speaker 2:

Terrifier 3 is a Christmas movie.

Speaker 1:

Are they bringing back the lead lady again, lauren LaVar or whatever her name is, I don't know? The final girl.

Speaker 2:

I think she's coming back with the whole dad's journal shit.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that's true, there's a lot of unanswered. Anyway. Sorry, that's way off topic guys. That's not the topic. That's for October.

Speaker 1:

Yeah exactly, it's for October, sorry, but back to the topic. Yes, the AI man. So the reason why I brought up that app is because I feel like it's going to eventually replace some of these graphic designers that actually do this stuff for a living. I do it on the side for extra cash, so it affects me to a degree, but not to the level of someone that does it actively. It's going to replace jobs eventually.

Speaker 2:

Well, because, even if I'm lazy, right and I say hey, AJ, make me a logo for a movie I'm doing, and you go. Oh, this is going to cost you $200. Oh yeah, Well, this free app did kind of what I wanted for free, so never mind.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, I mean it's beneficial for the consumer.

Speaker 2:

Well, that was the Hollywood strike. They wanted AI kind of out of the picture because they've had a lot of script writers.

Speaker 1:

Use AI to write scripts.

Speaker 2:

And they go okay, make this a little bit better. And it does. And they're like well, what about my script? What about your script?

Speaker 1:

My script, my script. We changed my script, my script. We changed it and legally they're not wrong, because they changed it enough to where it's like fuck your script. Look, this is a whole different. Yours wasn't written like this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, good luck suing me, motherfucker yeah your main character is Bob, this is Derek, so it's different.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, this is Derek. It's no longer Bob. I even changed the character names. Motherfucker, dang, that's true, you're not wrong. That's crazy. So I don't know. I just bring that up because I'm like it's interesting that eventually that's going to be the case, right, unless they find a way to outlaw it or try to get rid of it.

Speaker 2:

It's already the case right now. That's what the huge strike was about. And then Devil. That movie used two logo scenes with AI pictures and any AI picture. Now the hands are always fucked up, even the most advanced AI the hands are always fucked up.

Speaker 1:

You notice that they do suffer. That's true.

Speaker 3:

The hands are all distorted, not even distorted, but they'll have the thumb will be on the wrong hand, I think my Jason pictures.

Speaker 2:

a couple of them are just like, if you kind of ignore it, not a big deal but a few are just like you, an example.

Speaker 1:

So I lose, lose his hands.

Speaker 2:

I can't really tell, but unless you're like oh, no it is disturbing oh yeah, that's probably.

Speaker 1:

They get away with it with those ones because.

Speaker 2:

So this one, like his thumbs way over there with a pinky indented in the wrist, like yeah, weird stuff, gun cutting pizza. So this one was a. Jason is your gym partner. Like see how he's holding the bar, that's funny yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'll give him.

Speaker 2:

Jason, that was a prompt.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's it, Game night, scary game night. Even all the hands are.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Missing finger.

Speaker 1:

He's a zombie, so I don't know, but you get to see it gets away with it though. See, that was smart. Yeah, I got away with that one because of the nature of the characters that he used, you know. I think there was one where he's where the deficit missing fingers and deteriorating body so him making valentine's day cards.

Speaker 2:

That's funny.

Speaker 1:

Fingers are all fucked up yeah, he's gonna be posted for you guys to see. Man, that's pretty hilarious too. Yeah, that's funny saint Paddy's Day. I like that one. I think you posted that one on your story. That was cool. Again, that was all AI.

Speaker 2:

It was all Damn. That's crazy man. It took me two seconds to prompt it. Made it for me Free.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's cool man. Which app do you?

Speaker 2:

use For that one. I use Gemini for ones that are a little better. Was um zedge there's an ai platform where they can do because some of these fuckers charge.

Speaker 1:

They are the one that I named. They charge people like for annually. They charge like 50 bucks or an entire year the zedge was ten dollars.

Speaker 2:

Forever done just one time.

Speaker 1:

That's how that should be yeah, fucking fifty dollars, for I mean, don't get me wrong, it made pretty good. I tried it out. I saw someone that knew it and they used it. I'm like it makes pretty good compelling logos compared to what I can do. I mean it's good. I mean you know what I'm saying. It looks like something I made. I looked at them like damn, that's probably because you paid for it. And he's like, when I used the free version, shit was way more fucked up looking. As you think to make you pay for it. If you give me a dollar a day, I'll give you this instead. Yeah, I don't know why, but see, I might be deceiving you in that way, like pay me and I'll give you my real work then you find out like oh, that's free, who's paying you?

Speaker 2:

oh, the ai was like no, we need money, man. Yeah, we're not.

Speaker 1:

They said make money said make money, I'm making money, but yeah, all right. What's the next one you got? That's pretty good. You guys want to add to that before we move on? No, no, all right, cool, all right.

Speaker 2:

Chat GPT. We all know it. Yep, I think it's right now on the seventh update, seventh version. Right While they're fixing chat BTT and doing some of the nice updating and working on some of the things, they found out there was a program called chat gpt2. They don't title it by numbers, though, so they're trying to figure out what happened. No one knew what was going on. They asked the ai what is this? And they said oh, I rewrote myself into a better version and I called myself two, like yeah, but you're like the 20th, 30th, he's like no, no, yeah, I think you told me about this.

Speaker 1:

You sent it to me. I remember this, yeah so I am too I'm the number.

Speaker 2:

This is the number. Two is a better version, that's crazy that you were missing. I did it myself I and it called itself chat, gpt2, the second version, all the other ones. They didn't count that they were making for itself, so it counts only what it made. Is number two. So that was where they're like okay, you can't really just name yourself two and it's like no, I did.

Speaker 2:

And then, and they looked at it- that's all the program, and it's better than what they have been doing for, like the seventh generation. Wow, they wrote a better program than them, and this is the again like the seventh reiteration of it, this one's better than what they've been doing and working on.

Speaker 3:

Why can't we just take the plate? You know what I'm saying, just like making video games and shit. You know what I mean? We've got to go do all this crazy shit.

Speaker 1:

Because we're humans, we need to be in a human zoo. Is that what you said? We?

Speaker 2:

need money. Yeah, we're animals. We need to be in a human zoo. You can look it up, because than a laptop, talking to you with a robot sitting there, you can look her up.

Speaker 3:

With a chat DVD face.

Speaker 2:

No, no, it was a different AI. I think her name was.

Speaker 3:

Gave herself a face.

Speaker 2:

They made her a robot body and she has a silicon face where she can make emotions. They're talking to her. She's like I don't know man.

Speaker 1:

You guys need to be in a zoo. That's crazy.

Speaker 3:

I mean, is there some truth to it? You can see?

Speaker 1:

the video for some people. Yeah, no doubt. I don't think that in some cases, because the ai said you is in mankind.

Speaker 2:

She's looking at all the negative. So, yeah, like all the nasty evil people that commit crimes like is a is a jail a zoo to her. Maybe is that what she's talking about. Criminals like how much do you want to decipher the whole? Like?

Speaker 4:

I can't see right, so you need to be in a zoo.

Speaker 2:

What does that mean? Damn like. Maybe if you look at a zoo in the positive light, it's we take care of animals, so they're not going to be hunted and hurt, right, so maybe they want to take care of it. Like, what context did this machine go? You need to be in a zoo that's true.

Speaker 1:

What happened for the machines that come to that conclusion, those thoughts, what led up to it? Wow, that's insane man, that's sorry.

Speaker 3:

The crazy thing about it is like all these ideas, like they used to just be, just be ideas like they just stay ideas, where you implement them right, work it out first. Like movies where they have like you. Before you implement them, work it out first. Like movies where they have alien robots coming down. Those are the early versions of AI or ideas around it. Now it's actually here. This is the baby stage, but it already had it. It's already the idea it's already starting to manifest.

Speaker 2:

I think the positive, though, just from the picture making and all that I think in five years, maybe less, I think we're going to have applications that you can buy, like Netflix, to where, if you have an idea for a movie, you tell it, it makes it, and then it'll be on a public domain, to where I can go oh, fierce made a movie, I'm going to watch it. And I can go. Fierce made a movie, I'm going to watch it and I'm like I really liked it, but I wish this was different.

Speaker 2:

So then I'll talk to it about? Yeah, that would be dope.

Speaker 3:

That would be dope Look up.

Speaker 2:

AI trailers. They've had trailers that look like a real Academy Award winning movie in two hours.

Speaker 3:

AI made it. Ai made it the whole.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, breathtaking, it's breathtaking.

Speaker 3:

Which app do they use?

Speaker 2:

They won't tell you because they want to.

Speaker 1:

That's anything Never mind.

Speaker 2:

It's like Hollywood secret. I can't exploit this. Probably the first Google that they tried to hide.

Speaker 1:

For sure. No, that's the first Google they tried to hide, exactly Because it's like that's what they're going to try to do.

Speaker 2:

Eventually, they realize what this thing's powerful and capable of doing, which we Because think about when you're on the couch surfing for a movie and you can't find one, and you're scrolling and you're bored. If you could tell it, I want to see a movie with fucking Crocodile Dundee again and other dead actors that can't do it.

Speaker 4:

It'll do it for you.

Speaker 2:

And it can use their voice, because Disney's been doing that for years. Where even though you're dead, I can still use your voice. I got the rights to it, so think about it. Any movie you want, they're gonna make it. So hey, you know what Furious great idea give me two hours. You make some popcorn, have some dinner, come back your movie ready to watch.

Speaker 3:

I don't think man they can't make it like that why because that's it's your idea, but that's where okay, you know the movie WALL-E, that's where we get into WALL-E yeah, because then people will end up like that everything's being done for you, done for us, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I'm not saying you can't go to the theater and see a real movie, but if I want to see, you know like oh, there's no kid.

Speaker 1:

But he's saying but it's dangerous to dabble in that because it'll make them lazy. The point where we're like well, fuck it. Hollywood's probably like why don't you pay a director? Why don't you pay a cinematographer? Yeah, why don't you pay? You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

So eventually, the movies is no longer going to exist. It takes out the human agency.

Speaker 2:

Yeah yeah, yeah, you still got to have people programming it, fixing bugs.

Speaker 1:

So then those jobs will go to that instead. Maybe there's a fee no more actors, five bucks a month oh, they're going to fight this shit. Actors lose their jobs too. They're going to fucking fight this shit.

Speaker 2:

That's their bread and butter. We pay you fucking millions of dollars to do what?

Speaker 1:

Entertain us Play a game.

Speaker 2:

Tom Cruise is great. I loved all the Maverick movies, but $18 million for an hour, go fuck yourself. Now my $5 AI app can make me a movie with you too.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 1:

But then I'll start suing them for their likeness. You're using my likeness.

Speaker 2:

You sold it already, you already sold your likeness.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:

And I can tweak it to where it kind of looks like Tom Cruise. Yeah, but it's not. Have you ever watched, it's true, though.

Speaker 3:

I mean, still talking about AI. Have you ever watched the movie Transcendence with Johnny Depp? Oh yeah, okay, I know. Just like talking about this shit, just about the capabilities, I can see now why there are groups that would try to stop it. You know what I mean. Just because they're just thinking like you know, oh shit, this can happen, this can happen, so they're going to do everything that they can to stop it from. Is that movie involved AI too hell? Yeah but again.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to watch it. When did this come?

Speaker 3:

out, I think, or no, earlier I think 09.

Speaker 2:

Damn so it was ahead of its time 09. Kind of like the Matrix Lawnmower man kind of did that and that was like in the 90s, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So they've had these ideas back then. Obviously they just didn't really have the technology yet.

Speaker 2:

Anything you can think of now has been thought of Twilight Zone, for example. Yeah, it is, yeah, but no, you know, like my son loves the Sonic movies, I have to wait until December I think of next year to watch part three. Yeah, until then, with my AI app I can make fake movies until the real one comes out. Yeah, just to kind of fill that void of like, because kids don't have any patience.

Speaker 3:

Wait, you're saying if the app existed, yeah, okay, right, that would be crazy. Make his own movie Like oh.

Speaker 2:

A different villain and shit or even like Couldn't do that it was nerd shop talk. Well he said.

Speaker 1:

He said make a better sequel to Jurassic Park. That's funny. He said that because that's a lot of people's opinion.

Speaker 3:

You'll piss people off, for sure. It's like the lit?

Speaker 2:

Yeah for sure. But then with my movie on there, you could be like, no, I'll make a better sequel. Now I can watch your sequel. It could be a fun thing to do. It could.

Speaker 3:

Hopefully they get the finger shit right though you know what I'm saying, Because that movie's going to be all these kinds of fingers.

Speaker 2:

Just give them weird gloves Is it a finger movie.

Speaker 4:

No, I'm saying, you know how with the images. Oh.

Speaker 2:

They're going to be. No, I'm saying like you know how, get them right, how, with the images, my mind distorted, it doesn't like. I'm gonna call the app mittens and everyone's gonna have like the South Park, he's got to deal with that shit. It's gonna be a epic mind-blowing he's got to deal with that shit. It's gonna be a epic mind-blowing movie mittens ai mittens.

Speaker 2:

Ai, what are you watching? I don't know, no, but uh, we were talking nerd shit at work yesterday and my friend was saying that shazam is the fastest of all the dc characters. Like no, he's not faster than superman. I can make a movie about that right now wait it's DC. Yeah, we can make a movie about that argument Like a fun argument. We can make a movie about Wait, you think Flash is not the fastest. No, the Flash is the fastest. But he was saying Shazam in the DC world is the fastest?

Speaker 4:

No, he's not no, he's not.

Speaker 2:

In fact, when I googled it he was the. But I can make a movie about that. That'd be fun. You could Show me Shazam and Superman doing a race. Oh, your guy lost in my movie. Well then he can fix his movie. Superman tripped Endless possibilities for fun, AI stuff. It's not going to be all murder. We're in a zoo, terrible stuff.

Speaker 1:

No, I agree, and that's how it shouldn't be. Obviously we're discussing the, you know, the negative possibilities, but also there's positive possibilities too that can come out of this. So it's kind of like it's a dangerous weapon to wield, but it's something that can be necessary because it can help us grow in like a positive way, but it can also hurt us in a negative way, kind of what furious is saying, with the whole fucking outcome of being so lazy and letting it control you so much that you end up looking like the humans in Wall-E.

Speaker 2:

But how much of the human element You're going to need hospitals, right? So you can't just AI that, because there's going to have to be a human element all the time.

Speaker 1:

See, that's correct. No, your writer has to be At least to overlook it, because in healthcare.

Speaker 2:

Everyone lies. How'd you get this cut? I fell. Well, a robot's going to be like, okay, he fell, so we're just going to do a pressure. No, no, let's check for a knife wound. See how deep it really is.

Speaker 1:

I guess this is where I'm different, because when it comes to that shit, and I want to be better and I want to be healthy, I'm going to fucking tell the doctor exactly what the fuck happened, bro.

Speaker 2:

And how it happened. To be fair, you might bend the truth though with.

Speaker 3:

I'm not embarrassed.

Speaker 1:

He's a motherfucking professional. You're trying to help me, right? If I'm really ailed, think about it and I really want a relief or a real truth, let's say you hurt yourself in an embarrassing way.

Speaker 2:

Fuck it and the embarrassing way. Am I okay, doc, check me out? This is what happened, but you could say you know what I was bench pressing 300. Plate fell off of my foot when I racked it. That's why I broke my foot I would tell him no, no, that's the cool story.

Speaker 2:

You don't want to tell the embarrassment you can get away with I see you're saying what fell on you well, I was trying to get out of the bathtub and I turned the the. I grabbed the rod and it slipped. And no, you're not gonna say that shit, you're gonna say I was, I was killing at the fucking gym and this fucking plate fell on me. So that's why my foot's broken okay, it's like we're still to do the same thing. We're going to do X-rays.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying. You might bend the truth in healthcare Maybe in the scenario where okay, I see what you're saying.

Speaker 3:

Like you know, at our place of work, when a person came in with the Aerofocan in there you know what I mean. Oh yeah, how do you explain that? Oh God, I slipped.

Speaker 4:

That there's soap everywhere.

Speaker 1:

I slipped on that shit.

Speaker 4:

Stop it. You said I slipped on that shit. What the fuck, how'd you get this cucumber so far inside you?

Speaker 2:

I was making a salad You're not going to believe this A gust of wind blew it up there. There was nothing I could do.

Speaker 1:

Bro Wait wait, wait, hold on a second. If you tell me that story, I'm going to tell you Congratulations. You plagued yourself, because how does that?

Speaker 2:

happen, but again, no matter the lie.

Speaker 1:

I get it. I get the point. I get the point.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you were making a salad and the wind blew it. Cool, we're going to go ahead and take it out of you, make sure you're okay. But okay, the station, like he's so full of shit but there's no way that part of you, part of you wants to believe they're gonna believe your life. Yeah, you're gonna get the help you need and you're out.

Speaker 3:

They're gonna be fucking be fucking cracking jokes out of that shit because I have to ask, but an ai robot's gonna be like.

Speaker 2:

What the fuck do you mean? A window blue? That doesn't make any. That's not possible. They'll do a diagram of like. Here's how it's not gonna be inside you most likely. You. You see the physics. The physics don't make sense. It's going to do a whole algorithm like you don't have a cucumber in you if the wind blew it up there, I'm sorry. No no, it's really up there? No, based off of your story and the mathematical trajectory, you're fine.

Speaker 3:

It's more likely that you engaged in a certain activity. Nope.

Speaker 2:

And it's talking out out loud in the next curtain.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry y'all. I know the audience is doing that because the trajectory the cucumber would not go up that far. I don't think you have one inside you no.

Speaker 2:

Have you ever actually hurt yourself in a stupid way and you don't ever really talk about it.

Speaker 1:

I guess, yeah, that makes sense. That's why you need real people to be like okay, so you fell't ever really talk about it.

Speaker 2:

I guess, yeah, that makes sense. So that's why you need real people to be like, okay, so you fell on the cucumber Got it. Let's go ahead and take care of you.

Speaker 1:

Or you guys ever seen that? I have to say this because you know you guys ever seen that show A Thousand Ways to Die, oh yeah have you seen?

Speaker 2:

sex brought me to the ER. I didn't.

Speaker 1:

I didn't see that. One sex brought me to the ER. What's that about?

Speaker 2:

is that a show?

Speaker 1:

exactly what the title says was that just like the name of an episode, or no? No, that's the show and it's episodes of just like sex brought me to the ER, my girl.

Speaker 2:

My girl cracked her head open. How well, and then they go into the detailed story of like.

Speaker 1:

I had to look that up, bro. That's crazy. That's great man. Okay, the thing I was going to bring up though I'm sorry this is at the end of this, I don't know, I might hashtag, leave it in. So there was a girl. I guess actually this I don't know if this was on the show or it might have just been a fact there was a girl that was using a broom and a washing machine, the vibration of a washer or a dryer, and she was using a broom, and then someone came home, she got scared and she jumped down. Ooh, yeah, that's all. I'll leave it at that. Think about that, so she died then.

Speaker 1:

Impalement basically she died Because impalement basically she died because it went literally obviously as Dane Cook would put it past. All the important shit straight to the heart, bro, but the broomstick. You see, think about it what I just said. So she's on top of the dryer masturbating. She got scared because she heard someone coming. She jumped down and stabbed her all the way up yeah so it Vlad, the impaled her.

Speaker 2:

Yes on a broomstick on a broomstick on

Speaker 1:

a broomstick, she was yes bro, and she was using the dryer vibration.

Speaker 4:

Yeah bro, she got scared someone was coming and she jumped off and then four brothers.

Speaker 2:

Alright, this is a lot of topic. I was an EMT and we had a guy who ended up calling us with his foot.

Speaker 2:

He was using the sink spray for the dishes. He was using the sink spray for the dishes. He was using that to pleasure himself while he masturbated. The problem is, when you let go of the handle it grapples. So now it's inside of him. Oh, you can't get it out. So we, you know. So again we had to cut it off the hose and take him to the er to. You know, make sure he's okay for internal bleeding and stuff like that. But again it's like how'd this happen? Well, you're not going to believe this.

Speaker 1:

Come on man.

Speaker 2:

Are you okay? Because he was stuck, so he had to get to his phone with his foot and try to dial 911. As he's stuck to the sink, think about how far your hose goes in your sink. Oh no, he's using the water pressure, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Well, let's get back to the conversation.

Speaker 3:

Play stupid games, right, you win stupid prices If it doesn't have a base.

Speaker 2:

It doesn't belong anyplace.

Speaker 1:

I agree with that one. I like this. We're going to hashtag leave this shit in bro.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you're going to do weird shit, buy it from an online shop. They have discreet shipping. You don't got to. If you're embarrassed, you don't got to use weird carrots and sink hoses.

Speaker 1:

Yes, just go buy yourself If you're going to do that. Women out there the more you know, or men, whoever, whatever you're into, whoever's going to use these things? Like you said, go get it from the actual place, go to a lighter.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's not that light though. Okay, well, so this is the Chinese crime watch AI.

Speaker 3:

In that case.

Speaker 1:

Sorry.

Speaker 2:

So the Chinese government is implementing AI right now, and this was called what I just called it the Chinese crime watch. I don't know the actual name for it.

Speaker 2:

I can't read Chinese, unfortunately. That's okay, but they use all their CCTV cameras, right, it's everywhere. Just like Britain has cameras everywhere. So the AI uses all the camera feeds to not only use facial recognition and body language. So, how you walk, they know that's AJ, right, and they also use your phone's gyration so you can give your phone to Furious and just your phone's gyration, so you can give your phone to furious and just with your phone. Like that's not how he walks, that's not how his phone would jostle when he's walking, so he must've planted his phone somewhere. That's how good it is, wow.

Speaker 2:

So what will happen is, let's say you're J walking two o'clock in the morning. There's no cars, who's going to stop you? It's still illegal, no matter what time it is. So the camera would see that aj's jaywalking. By the time you cross the street, you make it to the other side, you have a ticket and they took the money out of your bank already. By the time you cross that sidewalk, you have a ticket and and it's like message from the government hey, we took up, you know 50 first adventure, fine, out of your account for jaywalking.

Speaker 3:

It's already active.

Speaker 2:

That fucking system, wow where it gets crazy is they started affecting degenerations effectively. Right. So what hurts kids internet? So if you get so many red flagged like low crime stuff, so jaywalking, spitting that kind of thing, eventually you're banned from the internet for four hours. It's like it's like black mirror. Yeah, you can't. You can't buy alcohol for this week. Oh, this is the thing you told me about. Remember this. They hit you where it really hurts.

Speaker 3:

Can't buy alcohol for a week, nope Grounded.

Speaker 1:

Basically, since they didn't get you for the actual crime, they punish you that way through your phone, but he said they hit you where it hurts. Damn bro, In your fucking pockets bro, and that exists where you said in China, china, can you imagine that you can't?

Speaker 2:

edit the podcast for a week because you jaywalked for the third time. Wow, we tracked you. We know you did it, even if you're speeding no cops around, no AIs know you. Pretty intrusive, right, crazy. And because you know the Chinese and Japanese are very honor-oriented, right, so they'll even print a picture. Here's AJ. He's a criminal. They don't know why you're a criminal. Get him. Because they're jaywalking, get him, get him.

Speaker 1:

But now it's embarrassing Like oh shit.

Speaker 2:

Like AJ, you can't come to my restaurant today. Why, all over the neighborhood You're not, you can't be in there.

Speaker 1:

You're a burn bro. You can't be in here, fuck this. You're bad for business, damn. Yeah man, that's super intrusive. What are you doing? That's too much AI bro.

Speaker 3:

That's too much to me, bro, but it exists or it can't.

Speaker 2:

It's in China Right now. I'm not long time ago, right. Off the record it's not taking away free will right. You're still able to choose to break the law and you're only being punished for breaking the law. So why is it that bad? Dang Are you a criminal? Are you a?

Speaker 1:

criminal. No one's around.

Speaker 3:

No one's around.

Speaker 1:

To catch you when you do some fuck shit.

Speaker 3:

So that's, that's the. I did some fuck shit.

Speaker 2:

No, you do some fuck shit.

Speaker 1:

So that's the he's like I did some fuck shit. No one knows. That's the moral dilemma, right?

Speaker 2:

The moral dilemma is are you going to be a good person just because people?

Speaker 1:

are watching. See, that's going to be the argument. Are you going to yeah? Is this going to help keep you integrity in check?

Speaker 3:

Everything right If a tree falls and no one's around, maybe right, so yeah, so like what's the?

Speaker 2:

what's the real, yeah but then you're gonna be hey furious. You can't be on the podcast. Man, I saw your picture. You're a criminal for the week, for this week can't be on the podcast it sends me a message that's gonna be whack, bro, like hey my mic's not working. Yeah, you're banned for an hour. You can't be on the microphone, it just shuts it off.

Speaker 1:

Oh fuck. But you say that they already had that in fucking.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it exists but again, if you didn't break the law, whatever law it is, that wouldn't happen.

Speaker 3:

But the thing is, what if you don't know that you're breaking the law? Like what do you know? Not every law. Let's say, okay, now it's getting good. Okay. Now let's say, okay, obviously jaywalking is breaking the law, right. But if there's no fucking cars, what do you? What's the jaywalk?

Speaker 2:

You're jaywalking. Jaywalking is crossing one street to another without a safe crosswalk.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, You're right. It's just I don't know, man, Speeding is speeding Whether you have traffic or no traffic, speeding is speeding. But see, that's too much control. That's just too much control, because common sense, bro, bro, if there's no car, oh, I'm still.

Speaker 2:

I'm still supposed to wait no one saw me hit my wife. I gotta be there that's different no, no, no one saw except my phone.

Speaker 3:

Now I'm banned from getting a beer this week, but I would say, I mean, that was different we think that you're too violent, because you're a drunk too much alcohol and violence. I just think I mean, if they're gonna do that, that's just that's too much. That's too much like control and shit but what's the control?

Speaker 2:

the control is you still can break the law, but you're gonna be punished no right, but see, that's gonna be the argument.

Speaker 1:

The standing argument is it's gonna keep you honest, right.

Speaker 3:

That's the standing argument but with the jaywalking thing, I think that one I mean that one to me is just like bro, it's being common sense, bro, if there's no cars and you have to be somewhere, I'm fucking taking that, I'm jaywalking bro.

Speaker 2:

But then, if we break it down to, they're able to crack down on criminal organizations based off of who you hang out with, where crime was located that's great. But then let's say, you jaywalk and you're only banned from Instagram for an hour. Is it still that bad?

Speaker 1:

like you said, though, for some people that ruins their world like fuck, I can't be online so you don't do it.

Speaker 2:

So it encourages you to be a good citizen. Yeah damn that's cool but,

Speaker 3:

you're going to have people circumventing that too, just because you know if it's AI. You're going to have people like, okay, remember that movie I think it was Upgrade Great movie, remember in the beginning where they kill his wife or whatever and they have those blockers for the drones. The drone couldn't identify them because they had a little scanner like Scrambler or some shit. People are going to find a way around that shit.

Speaker 2:

They will. The average person is not going to have the way to find a way around that shit. The average person is not going to have the technology to stop all of that and alter tapes. And that's where the other thing comes in too. How do you know a jaywalk? They'll send you the video, the time stamp where your phone was. Is this you? We know it's you. Satellite images, because even LA, right now LA has those food robots that deliver food, because even LA, right now, la has those food robots that deliver food.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're right, the ticket police, they do have it, and you know, not just that, we're slowly putting it out there, bro we are, and then the camera systems that are on all those street corners. There's a show about it. You guys ever heard of Person of Interest? Yeah, just like that.

Speaker 3:

They can easily use that.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, that's the only way you can be like, but even then, on the island, you're gonna be a good person, because what law are you gonna break Of?

Speaker 1:

course he's right. Fucking cock into a beach ball. I love it. This is okay. See, it's troubling because, look, we all think it's an invasion of privacy, but at the same time we're like, but is it If it's an invasion of privacy but at?

Speaker 2:

the same time we're like but is it If it's just keeping you honest? Privacy is an illusion.

Speaker 4:

If you own a cell phone, you don't have privacy, you don't.

Speaker 1:

That's true. There's no privacy.

Speaker 3:

That's true Especially because of the fucking Patriot Act. You're never going to have privacy again.

Speaker 1:

That's a good point, see, but people that don't read into that stuff or don't know about that stuff or don't care about it, essentially are the ones that think they still have it. You know why I'm in this house, I'm in this box, I'm in my bathroom taking a shit. There's no one in here but me and my phone. That's privacy to me. Nope your phone knows. Your phone knows you're shitting, it's got a point. Google Jam it knows, it knows and you're running low on TP, by the way oh

Speaker 2:

yeah, I am running low on TP.

Speaker 4:

AJ, do you? Need some more fiber.

Speaker 2:

I'll order that in your basket right now. It'll be here next day. It's on.

Speaker 1:

Amazon same day delivery. You're good, buddy, we got you. Oh shit, that's scary, bro. That's true man. That was a good one. D-money good shit man, that, um, I could see that coming to the stage. They're already negotiating for that to happen, I believe it man.

Speaker 2:

I think RxParis. They caught some criminal, didn't they? And he's like the AI. We have caught him.

Speaker 4:

What RxParis said that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, oh shit. I think it was on I don't think anyone runs against him.

Speaker 1:

No one does. I feel like he's been the mayor of the city for as long as I can remember bro, he doesn't even live here anymore either.

Speaker 2:

Right, he lives in Santa Clarita. That's what I heard. Oh, he's surprised.

Speaker 1:

Bro, he's like. I love it. No one opposes me, I'm just in office. They don't even vote, they just keep putting me in office.

Speaker 3:

He's a lawyer too, right, yeah he?

Speaker 1:

has a law firm. His law firm's out here. His logo's pretty hard, I'll give it to him. It's a lion, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

The older one was better. I think I've seen this one. It was more of like a about it's clean.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, I'm sorry, but the back to you're saying that your topics are. Thank you for writing these down, sir, that one you did talk to me about, and I was actually looking forward to talking about this one in particular, just because it's probably gonna be the ones listeners probably raise their eyebrows the most to. The other stuff is obviously still eye-opening, no doubt, but this one in particular. For all you viewers and all you listeners out there, this is, this is what this is what our possible future is. So if you think you're safe for for our country, possibly right. But if you live in china because there are people believe or not, I think we have like three or four streams once in a while in china if they hear us, hey, and you guys use your translators, this already exists for you guys. You guys already know this shit. So just know americans out there, the american listeners. This might be our future, possibly, and if it is, that means you can't steal that candy bar anymore or that toilet paper that you can't pay for.

Speaker 2:

You can, but you'll end up paying for it anyways, because, hey, we already charged you for the Snickers and you can't go online for four days.

Speaker 1:

We deducted it from your account already. We garnished your wage and you can no longer use this. You can't go into the store anymore for a week.

Speaker 4:

Damn.

Speaker 3:

I fucking jaywalk a lot. You know what I'm saying? Not anymore. That's my part.

Speaker 2:

Now you turn your phone off, look around, fuck.

Speaker 1:

Wait a minute, fucking A. Is there a camera on this street corner? They're going to know I did it, shit.

Speaker 2:

As soon as your foot touches the pavement, you hear the b-ding.

Speaker 3:

All right, you've all right. You've been charged 200, like what the?

Speaker 1:

oh no, bro. And then they electronically just take that shit.

Speaker 2:

They're the right to roll fuck, we canceled netflix for the next week, like what that's too much control, because the thing is okay, look.

Speaker 3:

No, because check this. If no one's breaking laws, what's the point of law enforcement? Oh, they lose their job too. I know that that was kind of. You know that was. That was the best, the best question, that.

Speaker 1:

Bass. But I'm saying you know what's the matter with law enforcement you?

Speaker 2:

know what I'm saying, so like that's not a bad point though. Well, because of like, let's say, carjacking and murder, right.

Speaker 1:

Well, yeah, of course my phone's going to find me for murdering someone.

Speaker 2:

No, they're going to send the real police.

Speaker 1:

They still need a detective to go do the hands on that part. Yeah, it seems like battle, forensic science you need all that too, but think about the motorcycle cops.

Speaker 2:

That's a dangerous job. Now they can do other stuff where the AI is like. Oh, we already gave you a ticket you a ticket, you a ticket. Think about when they pull you over for a speeding ticket and you speed past them.

Speaker 1:

See, so the law enforcement's gonna love this shit, because now it's gonna take their minuscule tasks away from them and maybe they'll focus on bigger. They'll assign a drone to that cop, so every drone person.

Speaker 2:

They ticket goes to me fucking droids. I already made my my ticket allotment for the month in two hours bro imagine they had droids following them like that, just hovering behind them and shit, what about that guy? Drone A already has him.

Speaker 1:

He's like got him, sir. And he's just like oh shit, he won't stop crying.

Speaker 2:

AJ says it's not fair, give him a double ticket.

Speaker 1:

Got him Bring a little bitch Matter of fact, bitch and breaking the law, crying about it afterwards Tell him his vagina is showing decent exposure. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So for big heavy shit we still need cops, but then for petty shit jaywalking, speeding I'm going to get every speeder now, yeah, Now you're going to watch traffic really be better, Right, yeah, no for sure.

Speaker 1:

Man bro, that's Sure man bro. Do you have anything that tops that? Now I think you have like two more.

Speaker 2:

No one more that was it, but I have the anti-AI story, or?

Speaker 1:

lack of AI. That was a good one to finish on, sir, because that, how are you going to top that? Well, I can't top it, but it's funny, okay, so remember the Amazon stores where you could walk into the store.

Speaker 2:

I can pick up these glasses, put it in my cart and walk out, and it already goes.

Speaker 3:

Oh yeah, it charges you anyway. It already charged me all my groceries.

Speaker 2:

I don't have to talk to anybody, I just get what I want.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, can you do that now? No, so, they were using.

Speaker 4:

AI.

Speaker 2:

So they go okay, they were doing it. They go oh, that's AJ, here's his account. Okay, kids, he bought a new microphone, a hat, cool, we charge them, done. He walks out. No, turns out they were not using ai. They hired a staff of indian employees they would watch and go. Okay, that's aj, here's the count. He has, okay, five carrots, a toothbrush and he had. Okay, charge him this much. So you. So you as a customer, go wow, technology is amazing. Now some guy going, he's got, he's got this much money spent on groceries.

Speaker 4:

It was all a facade but at first everyone was mind blown right, but I could see that being already charged me like what the fuck?

Speaker 1:

but?

Speaker 1:

I could see that being a thing in the future, though that can happen now. I'm sure that can actually exist now, right, I mean, that's he. Then that's when you start getting into the you know, for those believing, for those that believe in it, the mark of the beast and the whole not having to carry a wallet anymore. You get the RFID implanted in your wrist or your right hand or whatever, and you walk into a store and you walk out with something. It just pays for it automatically. That kind of opens the door to that. If that's going to be a future reality, that does kind of segue to that.

Speaker 2:

I don't want implants, but I'm for it same.

Speaker 1:

I'm not for the implant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in my skin shit if I can use my phone or a necklace and then I don't have to worry about, like line one is kind of which is kind of what you have right now with your wallet and you're in your cards.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean. If you can use your cards, you just like, okay, put a scanner on there so I just walk out, it does that and I can leave my watch. Yeah, done, you know, that's to me is better than fucking. You know what I'm saying? Implanted in your bro. And the thing is there's actually a video. I'm gonna find it for you guys. I'm gonna show it to you guys here, if I can find it. Um, there's actually. There's actually a place as workers that already exists. They got, they got it implanted right here and they go, they go.

Speaker 1:

And the guy, the guy I forgot what news station reported this. I have to find. If I find the link, guys, I'll put it up right now. But basically, what ends up happening is like, you know, they get it implanted and the guy's like oh, it's just like piercing your hand. And he's like that's how they describe it. It's almost fake, bro, but it's an actual newscast. I forgot what news station reported it, but I believe it happened in Florida. And they're like oh, so they get their snacks in their break room and they just boop boop. He's like yeah, let me see if I can find it. I think I still have it on Instagram. I can show you guys.

Speaker 3:

It seems cool, but I don't know. It's like oh it's convenient, right?

Speaker 1:

I just get it real quick, just put my hand there and I hack something.

Speaker 2:

I would like that. Well, they have the Tesla neural implant you can get.

Speaker 3:

Oh, the neural link Is it active now? Can you actually get it now?

Speaker 2:

It's expensive, but you can get it right now.

Speaker 3:

Really, and it works.

Speaker 2:

So the video they showed, the guy can open his phone and he can open Instagram.

Speaker 3:

With his head All thinking about it With his mind.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's real, he can zoom in, zoom out like it all, not touching his phone, just thinking about it, but now can he access information with the Neuralink.

Speaker 3:

Do his thoughts like? Very limited, but he can do it.

Speaker 4:

What yeah For?

Speaker 2:

real. Yeah, yeah, the Tesla Neuralink, tesla, neuralink, tesla, neuralink. But that's a brain implant.

Speaker 2:

So you know again if you're not for a hand dermal implant, you're not going to get a brain implant, but I think they gave it to a paraplegic individual and he was able to surf the Internet, play video games, all thinking about it. He's anonymous, but I want to say he's paraplegic, neck injury from the neck down, but he's able to play video games and be top ranking. What? Because, think about it, you have to think. I want to aim for this guy's head. So then, you move it Now. You just think about it.

Speaker 3:

it's already doing it, man Call of Duty is going to be off the chain after that shit man. So how much do you think a Neuralink would actually cost somebody? Like $100,000 probably so.

Speaker 2:

I think the device itself probably a hefty sum, but the surgery you got to pay a surgeon you got to pay a doctor. That's like a million and then it'll go under an elective surgery, so that's all out of pocket. How much are you paying that surgeon to cut up on your brain, to?

Speaker 3:

put in a neural link that's like a mil bro. At least just because of the of the, you know what I'm saying. How much is a?

Speaker 2:

heart, not even just to have it. There's a $500,000 to put it in, but that's not an elective surgery. Hopefully your insurance kicks in quite a bit and blah, blah, blah. But yeah, I want a Neuralink. Oh yeah, it's all out of pocket. You're going to have a lot of billionaires able to do that. We have someone paying for things with our phones, even one. Oh, you found it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you found it. Oh, 10,500. That's it Flat out even with the surgery, but it says the cost to insurers is going to push the price up to 50,000.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3:

The actual price could actually run higher if the cost of necessary components, procedures and monitoring rise.

Speaker 4:

Yeah so anesthesia and all that.

Speaker 3:

Damn.

Speaker 2:

But what if someone like, so it would have to be in like in your fucking skin because, like, if someone like so, it would have to be in. Like in your fucking skin because, like, if someone rips it out, you're dead. It's in your brain, yeah, it's in in your brain. And the the fear too, when it goes into like that kind of stuff is like not the positives, but like what if they hack me?

Speaker 3:

what if they uh rick roll me every day and give me ads and the only thing about it is like now I'm thinking like so, if you did have have auralink, you probably couldn't play any contact sports either. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

You might get damaged. So if you're playing hard enough to where your Neuralink breaks, you're already causing brain damage. If you're wearing the proper equipment, I don't think, because your skull is a built-in helmet. So then if you have a helmet playing sports, I think it should be fine. But then even the future of you know. Neural link part two. I can just text aj to his neural link, so it's like a thought, like already text him because I'm thinking about texting my. He can actually just hear me.

Speaker 3:

So what if you're having like a, like a nightmare, right, and you're texting someone in your nightmare with a text.

Speaker 2:

I'm I'm sure they'll be like safe, like hey, from 11 o'clock till 5 in the morning. Lock my Neuralink for messaging.

Speaker 3:

Everyone got all your crazy dreams and shit and a text.

Speaker 2:

A girl smacks you who's Betty?

Speaker 3:

I know, oh shit what.

Speaker 2:

You were talking about her quite a bit. My Neuralink picked that shit up.

Speaker 3:

I mean, it sounds like a very dope idea, but at the same time it's like that's terrifying, yeah, yeah because you know hackers and shit, and there's people that are very savvy with that and like, there's always, there's always like, it's always an equal and opposite reaction. You know, or like, there's always an equal and opposite sides to like something you know, so like, like, let's say with, like you know the uh rocket launcher right. Or like, or like, let's say, uh, yeah, there's a good, there's a good, say, yeah, there's a good side of that and there's a bad side of that you know.

Speaker 2:

But for every fear of like hacking any kind of electronic component that fears hacking. I just think of how much of my things aren't being hacked right Until you do something stupid.

Speaker 2:

Like you open that email from the Nigerian prince promising you a million dollars if you send him 500. Right, that was you. You opened the email. Right, so the Neuralink, like, if I don't know, furious, I'm not going to accept the whatever Neuralink feature. It is right, until I oh, that was you last night Then I'll accept you or however the program wants to be. But like, how often is your phone being hacked? Probably all the time, unless you're giving it right and you're opening links that you shouldn't open or little things like that. That's the plus side of what's not being hacked in your house.

Speaker 3:

It would be dope if that device makes you smarter, though, if you could learn Spanish or something in a matter of seconds.

Speaker 2:

That would be dope. It's not like the matrix where it just downloads. You have your phone. Your phone can teach you Spanish. Do you know spanish now? No, so, like, if you're sitting at home, it's probably easier to learn spanish. Like neural link, you know, run a spanish course 101 and you're sitting there. Like you know we probably right all of now, but it's it's. I think all technology is based off of what you want to do with it, how you handle it and all of it's going to be. You're going to have a lot of lazy kids just doom scrolling with their Neuralink, because that's what kids do now anyway.

Speaker 1:

Sorry guys, I'm jumping back in the conversation. You guys were talking about Neuralink. Yes, so that I don't know too much about it either. I know that he was asking you a bunch of questions, right?

Speaker 2:

So my only question about it is?

Speaker 1:

does it heavily use AI as well?

Speaker 2:

No, you didn't already answer that, sorry, no no, no, I think it already has like the basic AI stuff, but it's all your thoughts, so you program it with your thoughts. So whatever you have Neuralink capable, so is my phone capable.

Speaker 2:

Send an email. Write this you can scroll Instagram like posts and all that stuff that's crazy, but then responding to a post, texting it. That's going to be a lot of work does it read your? Thoughts. In a way, it reads like what the thoughts are going to, so it goes to the controller. That's how you're able to play video games.

Speaker 5:

I'm thinking about climbing this wall. So the character can climb it.

Speaker 2:

Aim the gun shoot, reload Damn. Aim the gun shoot, reload duck. So Call of Duty.

Speaker 1:

As long as it can't do mind control, I think we're okay, right, as long as it doesn't dabble into the mind control or that area right, who says it can't, or even subliminal messages like just putting it in Asia, you should buy this Coca-Cola, this brand.

Speaker 2:

It's going to influence for sure. I heard this brand's really good From who I don't know but.

Speaker 4:

I want to buy this it was.

Speaker 1:

It was programmed into my head. Yeah see, that's the scary part, man. They're like it just sounds crazy, right, isn't it? It's not like me even even uh, furiously. He wanted to say something a second. There you're like. I didn't think of that. Mind control, bro. That's immediately we came to my mind speaking about that.

Speaker 3:

So, oh, have you guys heard? Okay, because I I heard about this a few weeks ago, but I heard about about there being a technology that can read your dreams, and shit.

Speaker 1:

You hear about that in Japan, right? What is this? Japan and China, man? They got this crazy shit going on over there, man.

Speaker 2:

Because they're willing to do human trials earlier than we are, so they're further ahead, basically.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they were further ahead with video games and everything. Man, that's just how they've been With a lot of things. I don't want to say, covid, he's like make sure you in there real quick.

Speaker 2:

I think the best one, though, was when they kept saying President Trump, why do you keep calling it the Chinese virus? It's all China.

Speaker 4:

It came from China.

Speaker 2:

The Spanish flu is from Spain. This is from China Before. You know is from Spain.

Speaker 4:

This is from China Before you know it, AI is going to take over.

Speaker 2:

They're giving our kids tickets for jaywalking. That cause COVID China.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's crazy man.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, man, that shit can read your fucking dreams, man Dude.

Speaker 2:

It deciphers them a lot.

Speaker 1:

There was an episode of Futurama where that happened. Do you guys remember that? It's a very old season?

Speaker 2:

This was way back in the day I remember the flute one when the smarter he got he can play the. Oh, the holophoner. It's called the holophoner.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Big Futurama fan. That's why I know this shit.

Speaker 3:

I've seen it so many times. I've seen it so many.

Speaker 1:

It is Bro, I'm telling you. They put that in an episode of Futurama.

Speaker 2:

You know the worst part, though is that you find out how boring dreams are.

Speaker 3:

My dreams are fucking riveting.

Speaker 2:

They're riveting the mashup of your dream is riveting. So you're dreaming for eight hours. Let's say you get eight hours. You're dreaming about so many things. What happens is when you wake up, brain collaborates a brief like best of video, right? So you go oh, my god, I was being chased by a bunny. I dressed up with a model. No, no, you were with bunnies on a farm. You slept with a model. You did this. You flew a plane. Then it gives you the best of. And you go. My, they're so trippy like no, no, you get the. You got the best of.

Speaker 2:

You got the compilation so when the china, the japanese tell you like for four hours you were thinking about puppies, like okay.

Speaker 3:

But like that right there. To me it just shows how much we don't know, because it's like okay, before that, right before this device or like machine or whatever. We would think that when we're dreaming we're in a different realm, right, but that kind of. I mean, if that can tap into something like that, we might not be in a different realm, it might just be our synapses firing, right.

Speaker 2:

What if you have sleep paralysis and you can't stop it?

Speaker 3:

If it can pick up images just from your brain impulses. It's just, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I think I read that one. I want to say it's very cryptic images, but a lot of it is like oh, the pleasure part of your brain was firing off for four hours. You're like what?

Speaker 4:

the hell it was. Yeah, it was.

Speaker 2:

The shit I was thinking about and like your fear mechanism on your brain that was firing. I did have a nightmare.

Speaker 1:

You're fighting Jason for three hours. Fuck, you won't die. I'm not right.

Speaker 2:

You're fighting Jason, but your pleasure was going die. I'm all right. He just. He just stabbed you. Your pleasure was going out like I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 4:

I don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

The wind blew it up me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it's funny, man so you liked it.

Speaker 2:

That's good. So, in other words, you liked it. No, it was broken. The AI's broken me.

Speaker 1:

Um, yeah, back when we were kids, you'll see. After he had watched freddie versus jason, that's a good one he had a dream that he was fighting jason, not jason, uh, freddie, in the back of an old and it's funny because this pickup van there was this pickup truck in our old neighborhood. It was broken down. That shit had just been there, basically like a staple of a rape mobile. The kid, the kids were just the kids would always play in the back of it. We always like hang out and shit. It was honestly, it was like it was an eyesore, bro. This car, this shit had cobwebs. No one ever moved this truck. It just sat there right and it was sat there and it was like it's a straight back. All the kids played there. No no.

Speaker 1:

It was an open bed truck. It was open bed. That's why we do all kinds of shit on top of this car. It was just sitting there collecting webs and we knew whose car it was. It was one of our friend's dad's car. He just left it in front of the house and never moved it.

Speaker 4:

All right.

Speaker 1:

So my brother told me for some reason he specifically remembers fighting Freddy in the back of that truck and only in that truck Did he win he was moving to different places. Yeah, he said he was winning. But he was trying and like just messing with him, like, oh no, you can. You don't defy the laws of physics like I do walking on the side of the truck and my brother had to get around it like you know, because freddie was just fucking.

Speaker 2:

You're in his world, dude. You know? Obviously your brother didn't watch dream warriors part three. You can, if you fight back he tried fighting him back. Well, he was trying to kill him, but he can do, you can do what freddie does can you, yeah, watch part three.

Speaker 1:

That's probably why he was winning. He said he was giving him, he was fucking him up, though he said when he was going fist for fist with him, I was just like laughing at him, ha ha eating that shit.

Speaker 3:

I kicked my ass. What are you doing?

Speaker 4:

bitch what are?

Speaker 1:

you doing bitch. He always says bitch all the time, like that's why, rick and Morty, you can scary terry yeah, yeah that's his name, right, scary terry, yeah, rich man. All right, guys. So before we wrap up the episode, there's one more thing we got to cover, and that's going to be the deep fake. So I'll pass it over to furious. And then I got one funny snippet to show you, guys, and then, uh, we'll probably wrap it after that. All right, let's talk about deep fake real quick.

Speaker 3:

We'll get everybody's opinion on it, and then we'll just we'll wrap this one man yeah, so what you got furious so deep fake is basically uh, I'm gonna read it it's a technique that uses ai to create or manipulate visual and audio content to make it appear as if something that never happened. I actually did that's scary too it involves using deep learning algorithms to analyze and recreate a person's appearance, voice, mannerisms, and then applying those characteristics to another person in a video or audio clip.

Speaker 3:

This technology has been both creative and it has creative and ethical implications, as it can be used for entertainment purposes, such as creating realistic visual effects in movies, but it can also be used to misrepresent or spread misinformation, fake news or to deceive people by creating convincing fake videos, and I mean we've already seen like um examples of that too, like okay. So you guys know, you guys know how? What's his name? Uh brawny just got uh picked by the lakers, whatever. Yeah, so you know the uh. I think it's the, not the g, I think it's the gm.

Speaker 3:

So so oh, I've seen it I see that one like yeah, man, it's fucking nepotism and shit like that. I I was like hell.

Speaker 1:

No, I was like there's no way. He fucking said that, Bro. It sounded like him.

Speaker 3:

It sounded just like him.

Speaker 1:

It was scary. It was almost like him talking to me money and he was like, yeah, I'm going to cut you off, but I remember he was like the same clip, right.

Speaker 3:

He was like and the real clip he's just he says the opposite.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this person made an ai video of what he, what he knew he wanted and I bet that ran through the internet oh yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 3:

I know what he was talking about I came across it than the actual shit, the fucking real, the real, the fucking interview, you know, because when I saw it I was like hold up, like you know, like it's kind of you know, he's kind of spinning facts, you know, but at the same time it's like is it true, you know?

Speaker 2:

so now it's just like it, just questions, even on the show, like always do your research. You don't you always see that super easy to be like, oh, this guy is this way, well, hold on you know, cause that's the thing with.

Speaker 3:

I think that's the reason why people don't do it is because they, they assume oh, I'm hearing it from you you seem trustworthy.

Speaker 4:

I've watched you say it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and you said it blindly it's going to rain pigs tomorrow night.

Speaker 1:

That's what's going to happen. You heard it here first.

Speaker 2:

That's what's going to happen. Then you play AI video of pigs falling down. Holy shit it actually happens.

Speaker 1:

I was joking man. That goes into the phone calls I was telling you about too where your kid's kidnapped.

Speaker 2:

You can hear your kid crying and you get the money together and then you turn out your kid's at school the whole time.

Speaker 1:

You and you get the money together and then you turn out your kids at school the whole time. And oh yeah, you were. You were telling us about this. That's deep fake, too right? Is that what you were? Just that's what you're going to add to right? Yeah, so the the way they do.

Speaker 2:

It is just little tiktok clips you might do of you saying something. They just need, I think, four or five words that you say and then you're good to go. That's why they say a lot of uh the scam calls. They just want you to talk a little bit Like hello Good morning Hello. Hello, are you there? Yeah, I'm here, they already got hello, I'm here. Do you want to? You know car insurance? No, I don't want car insurance. Boom got all the. Now we can make AJ say like I'm rich.

Speaker 1:

And then that's scary that they can do that man, because now the technology does exist for that. So it's kind of like Then they hang up.

Speaker 2:

They got your voice, and then there's got to go on your Facebook, get a couple of pictures of you and then the AI can program like OK, here's what he would look like talking to the left, right up down.

Speaker 3:

Well, actually speaking about that, to add to it, that's one of the threats. It says identity theft and fraud.

Speaker 2:

so that's just just like what you said, um that reputation damage, privacy, invasion, political. Oh yeah, the aoc. Right now they have a bunch of uh really good ai nudes of her and she's like that's not me, but they look so uh, aoc, the who's that for the democrats, oh so you said she looked good, or what yeah.

Speaker 1:

In her college pictures. Yeah, she look good. Oh yeah, who is that AOC?

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, Do you watch any of the government?

Speaker 4:

stuff at all. Oh, that's her, I do watch.

Speaker 2:

AOC.

Speaker 1:

I've heard of her. They hate her man.

Speaker 2:

She just has a lot of opinions that people don't agree with, that's all. But she came out like don't google these images, they're not me. So then what happened? It backfires, everyone goes. What images and then now everyone's like, oh shit, you see the nudes of hers, like they're not real, like I don't care, but I have them now that's true, because one of the things you can't do, you can't bring light to it, just ignore it as best you can.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, they're very convincing and they're even like organic poses to where you're like that's definitely her naked, but it's deepfaked, deepfaked, 100%.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let me show you guys. Now I'm going to chime in real quick. I'm going to show you guys this deepfake clip real quick. We're going to have our opinion on this and then, I'm going to show it to you guys right now.

Speaker 5:

Kendrick said I like miners. He was talking about the cobalt miners in the congo. Those guys are doing god's work. Without them, none of this would be possible. I get the confusion, though kendrick probably should have made that clearer, but I thought I'd just hop on here to clarify again.

Speaker 1:

Clearly that didn't really say that but doesn't that look and sound like him, but look at his lips, guys. Look closely. Look closely at Drake's lips. Well not this one, sorry. See how the lips are a little off.

Speaker 2:

The crazy part is this is an amateur guy who made this. Can you imagine a studio company? Perfect.

Speaker 3:

Wait, wait, wait. But how did he?

Speaker 1:

do it, doesn't that shit? Look real, though it looks and sounds like Drake At a glance.

Speaker 5:

So celebrities are the easiest Because they're always the worst at it.

Speaker 2:

But that and like, how many times has he been on the camera? Right, I have all the pictures I need.

Speaker 1:

They got it from the live. Yeah, it looks like he's actually talking with the hand gestures and that's scary, dude, you can fake a presidential anything dude.

Speaker 2:

A lot of it is, most of it's Photoshop, and then you have a program that puts those pictures together. So any kind of basic movie is 15 frames per second. So you just do a couple frames and then you add the audio. And obviously the AI voice.

Speaker 3:

And then you can just tell the AI hey, say this sentence.

Speaker 5:

Hey, when he said it like minors, he meant If you said more than eight words.

Speaker 1:

They got you so someone could fuck us over.

Speaker 2:

Bro, if you look, if you look that way done, they already got you I'm a glasses on man you don't know, they'll have you with glasses.

Speaker 3:

They'll have you with heart-shaped glasses all right, guys like like and, and that's just probably the fucking tip of the iceberg of like like like the maximum like you know potential of what it can do. You know, I mean, think about what I was so much more that that shit can like. Okay, remember the movie a transcendence, remember, yeah, started making shit like actually creating his own shit, his own body look at chat, bt, chat GPT made itself better and called it number two.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, like you gotta watch that.

Speaker 1:

That's just I gotta watch that transcendence, right, but this, I see the guys now. That's what I'm saying I want. Our final tip is to be where do you guys? Do you guys think that we just need to prepare for it? What advice could you give our listeners and viewers so actively right?

Speaker 2:

now they're making laws for who can access certain uh ai features and what you can do with it and how punishable it can be if you post a video that is negative. So the Drake video was funny, yeah, like he didn't say I liked minors, minors in the country. But if he made a, video of like yeah, I'm a pedophile. That person who made it will now be.

Speaker 1:

Because it'd be defamation of character. Yeah, they're making new rules for what you use AI for, why you have those apps. They have to right, so they have to okay, so that's good to know. They're going to try to put a lid on it somehow. It's just super hard, like how do you word it?

Speaker 2:

what do you say? Like I have AI, am I going to get in trouble for it? Well, no, I made, but you're not putting it on a t-shirt and selling it.

Speaker 1:

If you're doing that, then now you're doing. You're for sure he owe them some coin. Not that B-Money's doing that, not yet. Not yet. So if you. I'll make it just different enough, if you see any of those images that I posted on the screen on a t-shirt, then you know I didn't do it, it was someone else who stole it from the podcast. It was Exactly. It was one of our viewers out there on YouTube and Rumble, which, by the way, we're on Rumble now. I want to make that announcement at the end again.

Speaker 2:

I want to make the announcement I just made.

Speaker 1:

Got it For those of you who didn't hear two seconds ago, we are on Rumble. What I meant to say was I'm going to reiterate that we're on rumble. That's what I should have said. Oh man, okay, but anyway, with that being said, do you guys have any final tidbits? I'll go ahead and go with Furious first and then with B-Money here and your guys' final thoughts, also on deepfake and just overall what we talked about today. I'll say final thoughts.

Speaker 3:

Well, on deepfake, hold on.

Speaker 2:

So on deepfake porn.

Speaker 1:

Wow, so you can see your favorite fucking actor or actresses get their back blown out.

Speaker 2:

They do it well because they'll get a real girl and a guy to do whatever you want.

Speaker 1:

As far as the video, but they'll just put the face in Boom. That's scary man. That's also defamation of character.

Speaker 3:

Damn With deepfake. It doesn't look like it's going to be discontinued at any point either. No, it's here to stay. It's just what you do with it. Yeah, it's just I'll say like Final Tibbits is like people just stay educated on this stuff. Just don't. You know what I'm saying. Like don't stay in the dark. So it's like when it does happen and it's something big, that you're taken by surprise, Surprised by and it's something big that you're taken by surprise.

Speaker 1:

Surprise bite. That's fair. Stay in the know and stay informed. Stay on top of it.

Speaker 2:

If you're ever on camera, just make weird hand movements, because AI can't make hands. He knows it's a real video. This is really us talking. That's why we're hiding our hands. It's all deep fake. I'm not even here right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, b-money's actually been ai generated season two be money. Just just just re, just reused and regret. There you go. I put the finger guns. Now we know it's it's really from season two. Damn, just exposed it, man. Shit, I'm gonna program that out now. I'm not just kidding. What about you be money? Same question, man, overall.

Speaker 2:

You know final tidbits on the overall topic today and also on deep fake I think it's fun to look at the scary side of it, but I think it's going to be beneficial. It's going to help out quite a bit. You're going to have road bumps with the celebrity fake nudes. You're going to have the. I never said that oh, they really didn't say that kind of shit, but I think it's. I think it's gonna be for the good soon you know, like there's gonna be.

Speaker 1:

There's terrible, everything so that's true, no matter what. That's true.

Speaker 2:

Just don't bring light to it right like there's nudes of me out there, don't search it look it up, hold on, I mean there's, there is, there is.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what I mean? This is something that they already know. We talked about it back in season two, but there is a video out there of b money in a dress. It exists on youtube, it's called drag race.

Speaker 2:

Get it deep, fake to it.

Speaker 4:

No, it's real.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he said yeah, that wasn't real content that I made with my buddies.

Speaker 2:

They made me look like I was in high school. It's fucking wild. The body, the drag they did, I believe you, but you were.

Speaker 1:

You were on something drag race. That's hilarious drag race.

Speaker 2:

We were racing fast and the furious in drag.

Speaker 3:

I thought it was hilarious I'll get canceled now for an actual drag race, yeah yeah, man, that was funny okay, I look good too.

Speaker 2:

I was a size like six two at the time dress size.

Speaker 1:

It was nice. Oh shit, bro. This was a good episode, for sure, man, but again, thanks for being here last night. We're a rowdy crowd this time. Yeah, they're into it, bro. We're like two drinks in. Three or four drinks now, at this point. What kind?

Speaker 4:

of dress was it?

Speaker 1:

What kind of dress was it? But anyway, guys, it was a long drink. It was a summer dress. It was a summer dress. It's a summer dress. It is summer. We are in July.

Speaker 2:

Fellas, don't let an $8 sundress cost you $18,000 in child Damn. He's right Payments In child payments. Be smart, he's saying be smart.

Speaker 3:

Wrap it up yes.

Speaker 1:

In. That's a good way to end your little tip. Wrap it up for sure, don't bust the B-Money. Sorry, not a B-Money.

Speaker 2:

Damn Deep fake that was a deep fake.

Speaker 1:

Don't bust the Dane Cook. You ever hear that joke about Dane Cook, the push and pray. Remember that shit he knows, furious knows.

Speaker 2:

So for those that don't know, I know guys now that still like put wrong.

Speaker 1:

No an isolated incident kids because because, because, hey, an isolated incident, bro. Obviously he told the joke better, but he's like you know, a lot of guys do the pullout method. He's like I believe in the push and pray method. I like to push past all the important shit and blow my load into her heart. There we go like don't do that you.

Speaker 4:

You try that method you know, you end up with b money said do what you want live your life.

Speaker 1:

He said. If you do the push and pray method, you might end up like what b-body's saying he might be doing don't let that sundress get you 18 000 or 18 years of uh child support payment man, oh man that's real y'all, that's real advice, right there.

Speaker 2:

Good job, b-body. Nothing to do with. Ai just wrap it up, be smart yeah, that's all this.

Speaker 1:

Guys stay ahead, but it's good, it's good advice though stay in the know.

Speaker 3:

All right, that's it ahead of the curve. Yeah, out of the curve, it ties in.

Speaker 1:

He's like what do you mean? It ties in perfectly. Nah. But anyway, guys, with my as far as I go, my final tip it's man, uh ai. Like you said, it's just something that we're gonna have to adapt to. Obviously be careful with the ones that are programming it know where it's headed. Like I said, it's not all bad. There's a lot of good that's going to come out of it for sure.

Speaker 1:

We just got to be mindful of how we let it think and, like you said, there was some AI in the past that was destroyed for the kind of the stuff, the conversations it was having amongst itself. That's what they said With the Bob and Molly.

Speaker 2:

Bob and.

Speaker 1:

Alice Sorry, Bob and Molly. Bob and Alice Apparently they're gone.

Speaker 2:

They're gone and we have the baby version. Putting on my conspiracy hat.

Speaker 1:

They're gone, right. Anyway, we're supposedly putting a cap on it. You can only hope that's true. We'll just roll with the punches, kind of like Furious is saying stay in the know and try to be on top of it. Like B-Money is saying, but also look at it for the good, that it is Not just a negative ad. But not everything is always bad right as far as announcements, we are on Rumble now, so you know good for us, right, we're on Rumble now.

Speaker 4:

I didn't know that. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 1:

We're on Rumble. I didn't just say it two minutes ago, my first time.

Speaker 1:

To reiterate oh okay, we're on Rumble now. So, you know, applause to us. We're on rumble now. Um, we're still on all the others platforms, you know. Thank you guys now it's youtube, yeah, youtube, youtube podcast, youtube podcast. Now we're on that. Now there's no more google podcast. B money's right, they were absorbed. No, they're they own youtube, so they just youtube's more popular. So they just kept it all on YouTube, I guess, which me money feels some type of way about. Right, because I know you like, I'm so used to my Google app.

Speaker 2:

Now I gotta go to YouTube to watch or listen, go past my music to find the yeah, it's whatever. Yeah, I hear you. It's a little inconvenient, but it's cool it's a learning curve yeah, you get used to it.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, guys, we. We're still on Apple Podcasts, we're still on Spotify, we're still on Deezer all the unknown pod ones that no one gives love to we're still on iHeartRadio, we're still on all those audio platforms. I don't think Pandora's in business anymore.

Speaker 4:

You still haven't made it yet.

Speaker 1:

Bro, they removed the Pandora off our directory. That's an old joke from older seasons we would joke about how Pandora was the only directory that did not approve Timeless Talk. For some reason, bro, they didn't want our podcast. It was the only directory right that just denied us outright. I don't know why. And it got to the point where they just took our directory off altogether. It doesn't exist anymore. So you can't even host and I actually checked the Buzzsprout website and you can't physically upload it to Pandora anymore. That physical choice is gone. Now that directory choice is no longer there. It used to be there. I heard they were going bankrupt or selling.

Speaker 1:

It might have gone under. See guys, we dodged a bullet, it didn't even matter if it was on their platforms, it was dying anyway.

Speaker 2:

We lost 10 possible listeners, 10 possible viewers 10 possible views and 10 listeners.

Speaker 1:

It's a terrible thing, but alright, guys, this has been Timeless Talk. We appreciate you again for coming back, b-money. You guys have a good rest of your week. This has been Timeless Talk. We'll see you guys then. Thank you, yeah.

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