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🎹🔊🎶⚡️The Creative Pulse: a Beatmaker's Soul of Sound
Beatmaker extraordinaire JJ steps into the studio to discuss his latest auditory feast, "Home Cooked Meals Vol. 1." Join us as we groove to tracks infused with powerful emotions and nostalgia, such as the stirring "Homecoming." We peel back the layers of his signature sound, from film-inspired samples to West Coast vibes & the rich emotional depths that shape every beat.
Get ready to be inspired by the tales of triumph and the grind of creation as JJ opens up about the double-edged sword of the creative process. We dissect the notion of the divine spark within each of us & the importance of breathing life into visions. Our chat takes a hopeful turn, anticipating collaborations with icons like J. Cole and teasing the warmth of "Season 23." Overflowing with substantial conversations, we dive into the rigorous work ethic required to chase dreams & the impact of our decisions, both on our art and our futures.
As we wrap up, our discourse takes a reflective turn, considering the future of hip-hop and the enduring power of quality over quantity. We delve into the societal influence of high caliber art, the complex dance of social media as a tool for artists & the significance of authentic collaboration. JJ's anticipation for "Home Cooked Meals Vol. 2" exudes the confidence that comes from staying true to one's craft. This episode is a testament to the belief that artists themselves are the trendsetters, defining and redefining what's 'dope' with each creation.
*BeatTape Review With Special Guest JJ
*Discussing Inspiration & Creative Process
*Inspiration Through Pain
*Producer-Artist Relationship Dynamics
*Future of Hip-Hop & Artistry
*Pursuing Dreams with Work Ethic
*Motivation & Self-Improvement Talk
*Understanding the Power of Decisions
*Influencers & Quality vs. Quantity
*Impact of Quality Art on Society
*The Social Media Influence & Entertainment
*Creative Collaboration & Artistic Confidence
*Intro Beat Credit: Memnoc (Picasso)*
*Outro Beat Credit: JJ got Beatz*
Welcome back to the Conversation of Never Ends. This is Timeless Talk. I'm your host, aj, and we're back for another spectacular episode. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, all right. So you guys noticed already. A slide show is not here today. He had to miss. You know, he had to get his suit, his tux, fitted. Yeah, I think someone in his family is getting married. I don't want to put too much of his business out there, but you know, shout out to Slide Show. He wanted to be here but he couldn't make it today. But you know he'll be back next week In the house, as always. My second co-host, of course. We got Furious. Yeah, yeah, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, huh.
Speaker 2:He's just dropping.
Speaker 1:Oh, of course, yeah, you know. And over here to my left, you guys know who he is. He's been me, he's been here before, but we got a special guest today. Over here on my left-hand side, we got JJ, jj, got Beats, jj got Beats with the.
Speaker 2:Z.
Speaker 1:Dropping him. Yeah, all right guys. So this is going to be a dope episode. Man, they usually are. We have a good time, especially when you come on the show. Thanks for coming back.
Speaker 3:Appreciate you guys for having me back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but yeah, we're going to go ahead and go over JJ's new beat tape that he just dropped. We're going to listen to you guys right now on the show, we're going to vibe to it and we're going to give you guys an actual what do they call that? A reaction. Yeah, we're going to give you guys a straight up reaction. How do you guys want to do this, though? Do you guys want to do it after every track, take a break and talk about it, or do you want to listen to the whole project and then just talk about the whole thing?
Speaker 4:as well. I mean either, or I would say the whole thing. Man, I'm down too.
Speaker 1:Cool that, JJ. I just want to play it and then we just. You guys can feel free to comment here and there. Just go ahead and throw your comments in there, but we'll go ahead and play the beat tape right now. This is Homecooked Meals Volume 1. It's out now on all streaming platforms. If you guys haven't listened to, it, yet that's a dope title. Go stream that yeah, that's a dope title Go stream that right now.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying, so we're going to get into that right now. We're just going to jump off right into it, guys, two minutes into the episode. Let's make it happen. Homecooked Meals Volume 1. Let's go.
Speaker 3:All right, the first track we're going to play right now is called Homecoming, so I'll get to that right now.
Speaker 5:I know you're out there, I can feel you now.
Speaker 2:I know that you're afraid. You're afraid of us, you're afraid of change. I don't know the future. I didn't come here to tell you how this is going to end. I came here to tell you how it's going to begin. I'm going to hang up this phone and then I'm going to show these people what you don't want them to see. I'm going to show them a world without you. Oh, that's Neo. Without rules and controls, without borders or boundaries. That's the world.
Speaker 1:Anything is possible. The Matrix, that's art. I like that.
Speaker 4:That's the intro, hey.
Speaker 1:You didn't expect that change of heart. That's the intro. Oh shit, art. That's the intro. I really like that. Matrix at part L, though I like that. The change up is nice too. Did a good job with the transition.
Speaker 3:I believe that too. I'm going to strike two, so this one is called Street Lights.
Speaker 1:Street Lights and the late nights.
Speaker 3:I had a kid shooting that already.
Speaker 4:It sounds like a fucking, like a Griselda type beat yeah.
Speaker 3:I can already hear that shit. I don't want to say it's fire. You do know your shit.
Speaker 2:Squad here.
Speaker 1:Mad niggas is dying. You don't want that shit to be, you, right yeah? I know you're going to hold it down. You know what I mean. Just be careful, man. These niggas out here ain't even really worth it. You're a nigga, I like your style son Fucking belly bro, that was from belly yeah. Nice, that's his heart Home cooked meals.
Speaker 3:They can't hear you. Oh yeah, they can. Oh, they can Okay.
Speaker 4:Home cooked meals.
Speaker 1:Home cooked meals.
Speaker 4:This shit. Molly Moore Second beat in. I throw this shit.
Speaker 1:You got to market this shit oh yeah, no, they're hearing all this, all this being a dope Marketing. Huh, this is hard. This is hard, man. Just make sure you rise above all this madness out here Mind elevation man.
Speaker 5:Fuck that petty shit, you don't need it. Well, all right, I'm a sinophile.
Speaker 1:You picked some good quotes, bro. That was dope. Try to tell a story without having an artist on it.
Speaker 3:Just like just telling a story. What Just mind you like crying bro, everyday life like an artist.
Speaker 1:That instrument sounds dope.
Speaker 4:That's just fucking catchy bro.
Speaker 3:Chill chops, bro. That's just hard Good stuff, man. Thank you, bro. This one's called Never the Same, Never the Same. This track in particular. For me, it felt like it's the soundscape of how my last year was with my dad.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, Okay, it's not inspiration.
Speaker 3:And to me that's what it feels like the texture of the track, because this whole tape I really made it off of feeling in a I mean that's with any art, but I was really focused on the texture more than anything. Like what is this. Like each beat I thought of, like this is a different scene. So your feeling is what kind of inspired each one so what is going to this scene of the movie in your life?
Speaker 1:your life is the movie looking at it. Interesting. You know what I mean. That's how I went into so this one's called. That's the mindset you had going into it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this one's called Never the Same. Never the Same. Oops, not that one, oh shit.
Speaker 4:I can hear Mick.
Speaker 3:Jenkins on this. Shout out to Mick Jenkins, my boy, nappy Huy. He's doing a lot of records with him, so shout out. It's hard. Shout out to both of them, man, both dope artists. Yeah, it's not. I purposely didn't want it to be polished. I like the grid on. It Sounds good. I like it.
Speaker 1:Your drums are dope too, Thank you bro you sedabbed one of us a little bit, didn't you?
Speaker 4:I still do it All. Right, there you go.
Speaker 2:Cook up one of these guys man.
Speaker 1:See, that will set up in your place, man, when you're ready. You know, oh yeah, oh man.
Speaker 3:That was called never the same.
Speaker 1:That was hard. I like it, like there's some sadness in there, but there's like some hope in there too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I saw it from Mick.
Speaker 1:So I like how he kind of just feels like a very introspective sound to me.
Speaker 4:If I could describe it like yeah, gritty and deep and dark.
Speaker 3:That was kind of yeah, it was like that.
Speaker 5:It's like there's, there's parts of it Sounds bright, but then it sounds dark too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's mixed. Yeah, it's like there you go.
Speaker 2:It's like bittersweet.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's a bittersweet beat. I like that. I like that. Get away with it. Get away with it. That would have been a good name for it too Bittersweet, Bittersweet Good name, Good word for it too.
Speaker 3:So the next one, this one's called dream. This is it's hard. I don't know which one's my favorite, but this is one of the ones I really like too.
Speaker 5:Even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream.
Speaker 1:It's one of my favorite ones too. Some of these elements too.
Speaker 4:You ever seen the Warriors? Yeah, it's a good. Sounds very like West Coastie too. Yeah. I can hear like the best the best. That was when it was like the Warriors are good.
Speaker 1:Now there ain't, but 20,000 police in the whole town. Can you get it? That's from the Warriors. Can you get it. It's hard because I don't know if you caught that first part, I might have spoke over it. But he goes.
Speaker 5:You warriors are good, and then it's one of the main characters like he's like the best.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's hard, At least in the movie you're like. I like how you put that in there.
Speaker 4:I can definitely hear like Larry June on this, larry June currency.
Speaker 3:Oh, you know what my homie Nappy Hyde Shout out again, bro? He told me that he's like bro, I can hear currency on your shit. I'm like, yeah, let's do it, bro, I'm with it, I love this one too, I still have a dream, still have a dream.
Speaker 1:That was hard. I'm telling you, man, like this is dope, you got a gift, bro. You got a real gift man. Thank you, bro, you're talented bro.
Speaker 3:I appreciate that Hard. That was hard.
Speaker 1:It's one of my favorite ones, for sure.
Speaker 2:That one was dope bro.
Speaker 1:That one in the first one they're all good. I never heard the emotional one, I never gave it a good listen, until now the one you're saying that kind of landscape. That one was good too, man. We went through some similarities, you know what I mean, with our dad and all that stuff. Man, that was dope. I never really knew that when you get the not the reason, but the basis behind sometimes, sometimes the track, it'll change the way it sounds for you. I didn't know that that was meaning behind it.
Speaker 3:So now that I know that the motive and inspiration that's what I was going to say.
Speaker 3:Inspiration comes from good and bad. As a creative and this is my homie, memnach, alex, shout out to Alex. He told me he's like what we do, what we have, is like a gift in the curse, because as artists and creative, we have to live life and go through things in order to be creative and have a draw from some type of inspiration, whether it's happy, good, sad. But that gift of you, go live and then you create your art that, even if it's in your own suffering, you're still helping someone else with your art, because it's like a gift that occurs. We got to do it and something we have to do, but we have to. Unfortunately, sometimes you go through pain and that's just life Good times, bad times. Everything can be used as a form of inspiration you can draw from. I agree, you know so. He's like we have that ability, that gift, but it's a good, it's a gift.
Speaker 3:It's a curse in the sense of like you go through pain and you have to go through certain things to get certain things out of you, but the gift is you're blessing the world with it and you're helping others deal with whatever they're battling or what they're going through. You know what I mean. Shout out to Alex. He gave me that perspective. I was like bro, that's dope bro.
Speaker 4:Like you said, though, man God's a genius, God is a genius.
Speaker 3:We all got engineered right here, every single person, bro, and I know people say oh, you know, I believe there's no chosen ones. I believe everyone has an ability and a talent and a gift. It's up to you whether you do it Like God will give you the vision to something, but he will not do the work for you. I saw I don't know what I seen it Some pastor said he was like God will. He's like. Look at an example. He said he'll give you everything you need to do the goal, the vision, everything but he's not going to do the work for you.
Speaker 2:So like an example, he said there's a tree point your weight.
Speaker 3:There's a tree right there in the, in the woods, right that tree. Depending on the vision, that tree can become a chair, that tree can become a house, that tree can become multiple things Bow and arrow or whatever, whatever it is but it's never going to become those things unless you do the groundwork.
Speaker 3:God gave you the vision, gave you the spark, that inspiration. Now it's up to you to move off of that. If you don't move, I believe he'll use someone else that's willing to. Yeah, no one's. No one's better than no one. I feel like everybody has that ability to tap into it. You just got to be focused and tap into that. So, just like that, like God gives you an opportunity, what are you going to do with it? Yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:You got lazy people you gotta work.
Speaker 1:That's just life, you know, that's just life.
Speaker 3:I agree, just to go back. All right, we'll go back to the tape, but this next one is uh, it's called season 23. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:Oh Jordan.
Speaker 3:Jordan in a sense, but I was born on May 23rd too, okay, and season 23 last year. So I kind of like you know makes sense. So this kind of reminds me of like the feeling of last year a lot, along with the other one. This is more like homes, oh, oh. Yeah, home cooked. Yep, that good, home cooked meal man not fast food?
Speaker 4:I can hear you fucking call on this, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, yo calling call.
Speaker 1:Let's go, let's go, j Cole, j Cole, let's get it real cold world. You know this dog, I.
Speaker 4:Just so smooth bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just, was in the background at a heart for it's like a Shout out to my boy J Viya.
Speaker 3:He added that sense down there. I got him get on the track. I added that so.
Speaker 1:You're gonna have you guys both on your pretty soon, yeah, so shout out to him to very talented I.
Speaker 4:I can hear me on this too. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like you hear other artists.
Speaker 3:I love that it's versatile cuz that's a I give you that compliment.
Speaker 1:You're very versatile man. You know these beats sound the same. Oh, that's a talent bro. Yeah, that's hard bro. And you know what I want to say, that real quick, is that I do feel that way, don't you like? None of these beats sound the same or now they're all so you have yeah, you have a. That's a talent, bro, so congratulations on that like that. I'm telling you, I like that.
Speaker 3:What I made this project, it was. All the main thing was texture. That's what I thought of. Like the texture, like of like, how do I put it? How's it feel?
Speaker 5:How does it?
Speaker 3:feel Like what it like and I feel like you know, and from the responses I've been getting, it I executed it well cuz, yeah, everybody that responds is telling me things that, oh, that's how I felt when I made it.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm glad it connected. You know, without even any words. It connected with through the, through the music. So I'm like man that's dope, like just seeing what it's kind of like when you make an art piece, because I paint too and you like hanging up and you leave it open for critique.
Speaker 3:Yeah and you see how that piece, what it speaks to that person, yeah, this person, that person and then sometimes it gives you a different like I never saw that that's dope, like that spoke that to you. So it's kind of it's cool different interpretations.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's dope.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 3:Art hits people in different ways and inspires people in different ways. It does his next one, call this one a moonwalk, and this track six. Here we go.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it's beat egg, it's coming. Just was the base. Oh, she's starting.
Speaker 3:There's some groovy smooth they.
Speaker 1:Probably something a wild card for this one. I can hear Dom Kennedy on this one. Oh yeah, some reason I can hear about some of this. Dom is dope man.
Speaker 3:Yo, hey, any of those artists hit me up. Man, I'm going to work for everybody.
Speaker 1:Let's go the ones we dropped. So they named dropped at least Kind of has the same bounce as Was that song he made California California is for. Has the same bounce to that. For me Does that mean the drums down the same, at least similar. It's a different vibe, over sure. I like this one, though I forgot the name of the song I'm thinking of, but this song's hard to read. I like this beat though, yeah.
Speaker 3:Now it's called moonwalking she almost hard. I just I don't know I named it that cuz it felt like some smooth, like I don't know honestly something, some outer space shit.
Speaker 1:like you, listen to this shit on the Mars. It was dope, though I like it, so this next one is called higher. This is another, like you'll see this one's called higher.
Speaker 3:Just tell him to church. Yeah, thanks oh.
Speaker 1:The piano's hard.
Speaker 3:No, god, executive executive-produced disable. God got executive producer.
Speaker 1:Tsul어주 am. Oh yeah, the drums, the piano and the way you use the choir. This is hard, oh to base, you're right.
Speaker 3:Sometimes my beats are randomly arranged, but like this one, sometimes I naturally just make it for an artist like I. Just how I arrange it just fits like. You caught that like oh, that's the hook. Yet that's how I thought when I was making it.
Speaker 5:I was almost dope and it's too quickly.
Speaker 3:Technique, technique to the madness so.
Speaker 4:Like big Sean on that shit. Yeah, there you go. That's it was hard.
Speaker 3:Let's go, man any artist, let's go make me cue. Well, not any.
Speaker 1:I can hear you's weird ass on this shit.
Speaker 3:This is the. This next one is called God is great. This is the last track on the album. This is the, the last final song, oh yeah this is. I don't know, I change every day which one I like the most, and I've heard this, this table a million times because I made it. Yeah, but to me Maybe this one, I don't know, it's hard, it's between this one. It's a few of them, but I really leaning to this one. This is one of my favorite ones. This is the last track.
Speaker 5:God is great.
Speaker 3:All right, god is great, cuz God is great.
Speaker 1:I like that dodges Should be.
Speaker 4:Oh Hell yeah.
Speaker 1:The impossible has happened. Yeah, she's like huh Shit man. Rest in peace, ben Scoby, you're a legend.
Speaker 3:Now, there's such a strange thing There'll be times where you succeed and there'll be times that you fail.
Speaker 2:I should know that. Just put one foot in front of the other.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I can be sure of your fucking. Baby on this Conway man, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Kobe Bryant right there in that one. That's, kobe, the control which you can't control.
Speaker 5:God it's great. Is it that simple? God it's great.
Speaker 2:No, there's no simpler than that, bro.
Speaker 4:Did you know that?
Speaker 3:I mean, everybody knows that, but the way you know it now did you know it before that. You can know it all you want, but until you got to pick up that cross that you can't carry, he picks it up for you, carries you in the cross then you know it.
Speaker 1:That was Kobe too. Huh yeah, that was Kobe in. Uh, what's his name? Steven?
Speaker 3:A Smith Steven.
Speaker 1:A Smith, it's from an interview, oh yeah.
Speaker 4:It's hard, man. Nice way to the end, bro, yeah, right.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it's taking off. Oh yeah, that's the tape, man Yo that was hard, bro.
Speaker 4:Cook Meals Volume 1 got more work. That sure was beautiful bro.
Speaker 3:Thanks, man. Appreciate it, man. Appreciate it, man. Thank you guys for allowing me to play it on your guys' platform, man. No, that was hard bro. Appreciate you bro. Good job, man.
Speaker 1:We give our flowers out. You want to smell them? Yeah, man, you guys are dope man.
Speaker 5:I appreciate that, bro, I watch you guys' episodes.
Speaker 3:Thank you man, I'm subscribed, so we all we all on the journey, we all keep grinding. Oh yeah, you know we get around greatness, you become great. So I feel like everybody at the table here is great, bro. So keep doing what you guys do and keep doing what I'm doing, and we just all going to be great man, everybody out there whoever's watching, y'all be great too, man.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody watching and listening, man, we, we, hey, y'all be great. That's the message here, for sure, man.
Speaker 3:Use your pain or whatever you're going through in life as inspiration and become great out of that. Don't let it beat you down. Make it. Use that as a stepping stone to build yourself and go up. You know what I mean. You know you only go through things to make you a better person. So look at it from that perspective and know that God is still in control and he's on the throne and no matter how it looks, he's always in control.
Speaker 5:So that's my message to people.
Speaker 3:You know the tape. I hope it influenced everybody in a positive way, you know so.
Speaker 1:You know, amen, thank you bro. Thank you for that man. I thought it was hard. I really enjoyed it, man. I know man Not too long, but you know it's cool. Yeah, no, I mean you, you, you standing ovation bro.
Speaker 5:It was clean, bro.
Speaker 1:Standing ovation man. Thank you, guys, no.
Speaker 4:I appreciate you. I like that that's hard. It was hard, bro. We really appreciate you.
Speaker 1:You know vibing with us and showing with us and giving our viewers and listeners exclusive. You know they're now. They're going to get our reactions. What did you think of that? It's serious. That shit was dope man.
Speaker 4:I mean just like you know. I mean like you guys heard me naming off the artists that I I can hear on it. And that's, that's like.
Speaker 1:like, that's so same. We're supposed to wait till the end and review, but we're actively reviewing, man because it was dope, and you know like I also double too.
Speaker 4:So it's like just hearing another creator is like man, that's just what you know. It actually inspires me too.
Speaker 3:Man, that's awesome. That's the best compliment. If you can inspire someone else, that's like I got to.
Speaker 4:I got to step up. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's big and you want to get back on the show. That was like, yeah, that was dope man.
Speaker 3:Thank you, bro.
Speaker 1:Make it, make a cook session happen, man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, I'm always open like. I want to work with people that are as passionate as me, man, so I know, and you know, that's just what it is about, bro, inspiring each other and, you know, being great bro, of course, 100% man, I love the two.
Speaker 1:Bro was great hearing it again, like listening to it, really paying attention to it doing anything else in the background, just paying attention to the beats it was. It was phenomenal, bro, did you think?
Speaker 3:thank you man.
Speaker 1:Nothing shorter than what I expected. Man, they call it a bias opinion or not. Whatever, brothers or not, that's not a good. I heard all his bad stuff growing up to now. My boys, my boys definitely my brothers definitely advanced in.
Speaker 5:it came a long way, man For sure.
Speaker 1:You know, from the growing pain years to now, man. So that's, that's life right.
Speaker 3:I feel like my, my bad I'm not to cut you off, but I feel like when you love something and you're passionate about it, you're going to become great at it. You, because you're not going to stop, Because that passion, that fire, even if you, you have a bad day, you're just, you won't quit If you really love it.
Speaker 1:It's like an itch that you have to, you have to, you have to, you have to. Yeah, cause it's part of you, it's in you to do it. You feel weird if you don't do it and you become you keep getting better, bro.
Speaker 3:That's just how natural progression, you know the but, the driving force it has to be that passion. If you know you don't love it, then you know you're not going to give it, your all. Yeah, you're not. You're not going to give it the same effort and you're not going to get the same quality. Of course, no, you're not really not.
Speaker 1:It's all about approach too. Yeah, you know, but at least my my questions for you, man Like. So what was the creative process behind home cook?
Speaker 5:meals while you won.
Speaker 1:Like is it? Is it, was it what? What did you? Was it just what you were going through or just how did you? How did you make the the story flow the way it did with the music and the melodies? Was it just something you did piece by piece and then it all just worked out, or did you just actually map it out the way you did?
Speaker 3:Um, when I made it I had an idea in mind of how I wanted it to feel and in the whole message like home cook meals, the title is like quality over quantity, pretty much. Yeah, that's like the basis of it. So you know, everybody loves a good home cook meal Of course Good food, of course it's good.
Speaker 3:It hits the soul. You feel warm. You feel so like the project. I wanted it to feel like that when I made the that, that that be the theme of it. Like everybody loves a good home cook meal, you know what I mean. You could go out and do your thing, but you come back home, bro, you get that good nourishment. You get that good what you need. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5:That's a message to the brand name of it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's like good home cook meal good quality, quality, everything like music, art, quality over quantity. You know what I mean. It has to be great. It has to be not rushed, of course, like just like a home cook meal. You can't rush the process.
Speaker 2:You know, and then the end of it is great, it's great meal it's filling it. Yeah, it's filling, it's for filling Nourishment it's like.
Speaker 4:Put the love into it.
Speaker 3:Like you said earlier, like no passion is no point. So that's that's the premise of the project, where I came up with the name and the feel of it, the texture, like I've been saying, that's, that was the inspiration for it.
Speaker 2:I wanted to be me, to dedicate it to my pops rest in peace, that's why I use that picture
Speaker 3:of me and my, my dad when I was a baby as the cover, because it just you know that my dad means the world to me. You know. I know I'm going to see him again someday and just the things he left me and the man I am today is because of my pops.
Speaker 5:So just just kind of like paying homage to my dad. Rest in peace. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So rest in peace, my pops. I know you're in a better place. We'll see you soon, you know. So that that that's like the main premise of the project and I I'm going to do a series of it. So this is just volume one. I'm already I probably got already like 20 beats ready for that.
Speaker 1:That was my next question, Like what can they expect volume two Very, very soon.
Speaker 3:Because I haven't stopped, like when I dropped this, I just kept.
Speaker 1:I'm in this mode of just how many? How many is there? How many volumes are you going to release in this particular series?
Speaker 3:I'm thinking three and then I'm going to call it a rat. But we'll see. It could change, it could be just two, I don't know. But so far the way I'm, I'm working and I've been very inspired. You never know. So it's like I got a bunch of heat, more heat in the, in the stash. It's just kind of like another reason I haven't done a project in like shit if you go, probably in a couple of years, so this is like long overdue.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Make me personally. I know I had an enemy. I just. You know life is crazy and sometimes you got to live first before you can sit down and really create. So I feel, like you know it took me a while, but everything I believe like God's timing is the right timing. So I needed to go through what I needed to go through, to know in order to make this project. So, like you can't rush the process, and that's that's what I'm. I'm giving you know to the world. I appreciate every single person out there that enjoys it. You know good or bad, too. You know whatever it makes you feel. If it makes you feel something, that's that's something that's good.
Speaker 1:That's an accomplishment. Yeah, that's when you did something, for sure. Yeah, no doubt that's definitely something you got to remember. It made someone to feel some type of way or, like you said, inspired them.
Speaker 3:Yeah but I've been getting hell like a lot of great feedback. It doesn't go over. Look everybody that's giving me a beautiful comment and tell me really how they feel. I appreciate every single one of you because you guys don't owe me nothing. You know I mean so it's good work, man.
Speaker 4:Good works to be, you know, appreciated.
Speaker 3:Thank you, bro, I appreciate that big facts bro, you deserve it bro.
Speaker 1:Thank you man, I was gonna ask you if you're is the jeff any questions for about project and.
Speaker 4:Thank you for the, for the, for letting us listen to a man for you, man. Damn, I think I.
Speaker 1:I mean I got one that I'm gonna take from you that you asked J Viola last time. We had him on the show.
Speaker 4:Oh the workflow. Yeah, what's your workflow, how's your process like?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a good one. Are we that someone borrow that question? Like what, what's your, what's your process? Like what's your workflow, how's your workflow and what's your process? It's make?
Speaker 3:beats. I don't know, it's different, so every time cuz.
Speaker 1:It's not every beat you make is for a beat tape, right?
Speaker 3:So yeah, yeah, I was just the creative process, like if I'm making a beat. I don't always approach it the same way because it gets boring to me, because there's a certain you can get and I know you, you, you, we all experience this like mm-hmm, where you do a certain for me. You know a certain way what you're gonna get, but then it becomes like copy paste and it doesn't feel Genuine or as good, yeah, I could do that.
Speaker 3:But then a fulfilling, just a personal thing to challenge myself. I'll approach it in different ways, like Sometimes I'll have I'll start off with drums, first, no melody, and then I'll approach that, and then I'll just get a melody and I'll start building around that. Or sometimes I'll just get a old record, chop that up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the process of building see how that feels and then and then, once I got the beat going, then I think what is this beat speak to me like? And that's where I get the audio clips. It's a beat tape, so I can get really creative in the sense of like I'm not making it for an artist, so I don't have to leave space. I can kind of like there's no rules really. Yeah, there's no rules with the artist too, but yeah, you still you have to when you're producing for someone. You have to keep that in mind.
Speaker 3:Like Less is more, because they're an instrument to they add to the tracks you can't over right you can have a crazy ass beat and then it has no space and the artist can't do nothing with it. He might love the beat, but you didn't, you have to. That's that balance where it's like Just enough but not too much enough to like give them so they can get up. Just our job as producers and Creatives, like that, is to spark that inspiration. Like if I go in the studio with someone and I and they're sitting there and I'm playing them beats and and then I can get the reaction. I know I let it play, I'm like all right, got him, yeah, that's it. And then I'll end up just letting them do their thing. I set back because they got they might that they're inspired.
Speaker 2:They're inspired.
Speaker 5:They caught the spark.
Speaker 3:I don't want to slow that up.
Speaker 5:Let them get they got to get off and there, and this is what you're working with, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then later we can go after they record idea. They got the, the hit or the idea just out yeah you know I'm saying then then I could go back and do post-production and beef it up and yeah, with his or hers vocals and just be like are they said this here?
Speaker 2:Let me add this, and then you know, I mean tie it all together and make it. It's a process.
Speaker 3:It's a process and it's different every time. So Sorry, no good.
Speaker 1:No, no I don't.
Speaker 3:I don't know how every other artist and producer, but I don't like to approach like my music or anything I do, the same way. I like to keep it fresh every time it keeps me excited. Yeah, like, oh, okay, cool.
Speaker 1:Have you had any and you don't got to send any names, just like I told Jay by like You've, you've had any riffs with anybody and I got told I like I said mem knock.
Speaker 1:I told me mem knock. You know he struggled a little bit with engineers Because he was arguing with them. So with you did you have any of your any issues with anybody, any recording artists. You ran any issues, disagreements, because I feel like what you said is I like that you can like a tie-bon and add something to it. You read someone like no, I don't want you to add nothing to it, leave it along the way. This arguments maybe not specifically that, but like have you read any like pushback.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've had. I've had artists that we butt heads, you know.
Speaker 1:For for sure what you want.
Speaker 3:No, I just, it's just. I'm not gonna say names or anybody like that. I don't got no beef for nobody. But yeah, that's natural, that's gonna happen with anybody You're gonna have, especially when you're creating a project together. You're gonna have your differences. It's the. The point is to get to a common ground and First of all, if you're gonna do a project with someone or a song, you have to I feel, personally you have to already mesh with that person.
Speaker 5:Yeah, when it's forced it.
Speaker 3:You could do it, you can make it happen, make something happen, but I don't think that magic or that it's not gonna be there because the chemistry is not there. So, yeah, you need to have that chemistry. Like so I like to. When I meet artists, I like to kick it with them before you even do any music. Let's kick it, make sense.
Speaker 4:I'll put up.
Speaker 3:We make sure you bro, it's gotta be a good vibe, because I've done situations where I don't do that and I just jump into it and then it's just weird different process yeah and then the end result it's not happy, I'm not happy with it, they might not be happy or whatever the cases.
Speaker 3:So I don't like to force shit. I like it to be organic, I like it to be natural and like you know, you fuck with me because you fuck with what I do, and just like I fuck with you and we have that healthy respect when you're gonna get off your creativity, I'm gonna get off mine, and then the end result is gonna be adult project. You know, yeah, it's gonna be like, okay, we respect each other's lanes and we came together, we, we came together, made this new world, just this project. And so, yeah, I've had, I have my differences, that's. I feel like that's natural, but I feel like the good I Feel, like what makes me adult producer, not to toot my own horn, but I'm with the overall vision. So like, let's say, I bring them a beat and they want to take away some stuff, and then they had ideas and I hear them out. I'm always open. I'm not a producer. I'm like this is how it is, I'm not changing shit. I've met producers like that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm not like that.
Speaker 3:I'm like yo. Both our names are on this. Let's make the best product, let's make the best shit that we can make, right, the best piece of art I agree that we can make, and that's what's gonna resonate with people, not, oh, I'm gonna overpower you or you're gonna overpower me now.
Speaker 5:We got to be together, common, yeah, we gotta be on the common ground and when we get there, it's gonna be great. But if we can't, get there.
Speaker 3:Then you know, unfortunately it doesn't happen, but it's cool. You know Some people you learn. There's lit, there's lessons where you work with them again. And you know, and there's some people I've never worked with again. I don't have no bad blood with them, I just don't want to go through that course experience again.
Speaker 1:So it's just like it's all good, yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't hate nobody, that's just that. You know, that's that and it's being real about it. Honestly, what would you say? Your, your take is now on hip-hop more it's going, and if not just that, particularly because I know you say you produce for anything, any type of genre, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah what do you? What do you think the next wave is like? Do you think that? Because I saw something online that was interesting to me. As far as rap goes, they're saying that the top three, you know obviously being Drake, j Cole and Kendrick, not in that order. You know, I'm saying but those, those, those top, those top three. They're the last ones with the runner-ups you guys felt you got. How do you both feel about that?
Speaker 5:I'm gonna go JJ first and I'll go.
Speaker 1:Sure, all right, we'll go JJ first and then furious on your opinion, no.
Speaker 3:I think there is still dope music out there. I think the industry chooses to focus on certain shit, but there is a lot of badass artists out there. You just got to look. It's just with the public, the mainstream nothing against the mainstream, but like what they choose to promote and Shit like that. There's a lot of people that are better than some of the top. Oh yeah that's true.
Speaker 5:I'm just gonna say that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's a lot of people that are just not look. They're like I like to call them like diamonds in the dirt, bro. They just haven't been found yet and I, even myself I feel like you always tell me this the right years haven't heard it. So I, I do it because I enjoy and I, but you can tell like I always feel like the cream of the crop is always gonna. You can't beat classic shit, timeless shit, timeless talk.
Speaker 3:When something is timeless, bro. It doesn't matter what era is gonna always fucking shine, it doesn't matter. Yeah, when you make quality shit, it overpowers all the bullshit, because you can have an artist that just pumps out. They're just great at pumping.
Speaker 2:Music, but it doesn't mean it's good. No, yeah.
Speaker 3:So what good is if you're pumping out all this shit and it's a bunch of bullshit like you're. You're better off Just taking your time and putting out. But if you can master both where you can put out fast and quality you're.
Speaker 4:But that's why they have ghost writers and teams now, because, you know, because the same thing, yeah, but with that. But I think also, like, like you're talking about, you know, people that are pulling out just like no bullshit. I think they're probably just in it just for the business. It's not really about the facts, I know, say like, like, like it is about the art. Well, at the same time, they're mostly about the bad. You can hear it in the in the music.
Speaker 3:You can hear it and that in those, and then if that's what you're doing, okay, cool, that's what you want to do. But if you want to be here and you want to last, you want to really resonate with people, you're gonna have to do a little bit Hard to work no sure, and and like yeah, bro, that micro, I call it microwave shit like it's trendy shit, microwave you never go wrong.
Speaker 3:If you notice in anything in culture in general, the classic shit always comes back, no matter what, whether it's fashion. There's certain fashions that net like, let's say, jordans. In any era, jordans always dunks Chucks he's gonna test the time they just let.
Speaker 3:There's certain pieces of certain things that just it's timeless, so it's never gonna go. It might have a run where it kind of fades away, not it, but it never dies out. It comes back and all the trendy other shit it falls by the wayside. Yeah, all those bullshit artists that I call it microwave music because they're not really taking the time not to shit on people's art. But, bro, like when you, when you're presenting something, I feel like you should really take the time to like have thought, I put time into it, like I get it. You want to get a bag, that's cool, but that, if that's your motive, I Feel like the art suffers because of that. Yeah, when you have that's your motive is to. I just got to make a shit load of money.
Speaker 3:Cool we all got to make money, we all got to work, but then you, that's what you want to be, that's on you, but that's your legacy. Yeah, you wanted that shit to be that. Or do you want to be like me? Last night I was hanging out with Alex and we're talking about that. I rather have he said, I'd rather be the career that's longevity, that slow, you know, up up climb right.
Speaker 3:But they got along that slow build, that slow burn. You know then the guy that just shoots to the top and then boom, boom, boom and then he falls six, nine.
Speaker 1:That's it, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3:In a curse like that's a blessing you blew up so much, but the fact that there was no time to really develop and Grind it and it's just instant. Yeah, the shit don't stick, bro, it just do. You're right, let me look what happened to his career? Nothing, against nothing, against him, no, that's all.
Speaker 3:You know, yeah, yeah, yeah, just like just people that are just for the moment, just clown shit, gimmick shit. You know what I mean. It's just if that's what you want to do, cool, that's what you want to do, you could do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you're not gonna be a legend, you're not a vision, they're gonna be culture is gonna forget about you. Yeah, they shouldn't have been there in the first place. I feel like man yeah because for what I mean, get it. You want to be there just for that for a moment, then yeah, but he could have, he could have, you know, played.
Speaker 4:Play the game differently.
Speaker 1:Yeah, definitely no, most out. I'm actually having all that attention, no doubt. Yeah, most definitely made his choices.
Speaker 4:You know I'm saying cuz it's not like he can't do what what he does. Yeah, he was just probably in the wrong crowd. You know he was asked. You know what I think?
Speaker 3:I think, with his situation, he probably and I don't know, you know, but he might have had the wrong people guiding him. Yeah, and yes, man, who knows, I don't know. I'm just guessing Some people that just probably looking at him as a come up and they're not real genuine with him. Because if you got real genuine people around you, they're gonna check you whether you like it or not.
Speaker 2:You know, you got people around you that love you.
Speaker 3:They're gonna stop you from crashing out. So I'm sure, yeah, if they care about you, you know. I mean I don't know his situation, but any artist like it's important to surround yourself with like good people, really not, I agree, and what does he do?
Speaker 1:what if? What a pops always tells? Tell me who your friends are, I tell you. You are facts.
Speaker 2:I always tell us that man my dad.
Speaker 1:He's always tells that whenever we were hanging out with a shady group of people, or whatever the case was he didn't agree with, he would tell us my dad, my dad didn't sugarcoat nothing.
Speaker 4:Yeah, but it's true though. Yeah, I'll see your closest file, is you know, kind of you know who you were.
Speaker 1:Just demonstrate who you are.
Speaker 4:Resonate with it. That's, you know, that's.
Speaker 1:That's what you're gonna spend your time with.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's what they say like cliche people will be like oh Well, you know, you've heard those things where they say like oh, you got. You want to hang out with people that are better, like I want to hang out with better musicians better, of course, because that's gonna help me elevate. I don't know everything right as long as I keep the mentality that I don't know everything and I can always learn.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm always gonna get better.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that's how you grow and it's actually if someone's willing to give me the game, yeah, I'm gonna shut up and listen. You want to give me some gems and knowledge? Thank you for even doing that. You don't owe me shit. So anybody that want to give me gems, I'm gonna shut up and listen. And if I know it's coming from a genuine spot because you can tell if someone's bullshit you know I say like this you listen to the people that that have results and they know what's up, yeah, they're doing not a, not a like.
Speaker 3:It's like you're not gonna listen to someone. That's broke. No, tell you how to be. Come rich advice from that Can't.
Speaker 4:I mean you. You can take advice of that, of how to not what, to not Become a millionaire.
Speaker 3:They don't even got a million themselves so how you gonna tell me what to right.
Speaker 5:Can't tell me shit.
Speaker 1:No, it's true. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3:But that just like that, like being around better people, and it helps you in checking your ego, knowing that you can always learn. That's a big humble yourself, because I've had ego trips everyone. I know everybody has one point when I learned to check myself and humble myself. You'd be surprised how much people really want to help out when you're a genuine, when you check your own ego, because the ego could put your own. Your own ego can block your own opportunity.
Speaker 2:Hell you know, you put your fucking foot in your mouth.
Speaker 3:You got to learn to just check that shit, that door, like look, I'm not better than no one, no one's better than me. I'm here for a purpose and if they're willing to give me game. And they got the accolades and they got the stats, I'm a listen. Yeah, you know, I'm saying like they, they clearly got somewhere where I need to go, or I'm trying to get you, trying to figure out how and they want to give that knowledge for me for free.
Speaker 3:Yeah, why would I not? You know so Good people, people that are passionate, people that are just hungry, like you, like minded and creative, of course. You know, you know, yeah, yeah, consistency, consistency to you know, it's like the gym, it's like anything you get better every time you go. That's another woman.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the gym, the consistency man, you know what, you know what? One thing I noticed, to and it's so true. You can't expect those results If you're not expecting, if you're not, if you're not trying to be uncomfortable or being pain.
Speaker 4:I feel like that's part of the growth, would you agree? Pain is the pain is part of the game.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's part of the game and like not to sound.
Speaker 1:You know what do they call that a cliche. But pain is game. Honestly, you know games. Okay, were you in pain. Yeah did you I think, did you stress your muscles at all today? Did you actually go in there and keep your body guessing and walk out sore? That's how you know.
Speaker 3:You did see, but I think that that is Necessary. That's part of the process. It is necessary because I feel like it teaches you.
Speaker 5:You know, I don't appreciate it too, yeah, so we do get the reward.
Speaker 3:You're gonna appreciate a lot more because you.
Speaker 1:And it hurt and you it was a good pain. Yeah, you swear for it You're.
Speaker 3:It's gonna humble you because you're gonna know why I went through a lot to do get this. I want to keep it too.
Speaker 4:I want to keep you. I got a respect, yeah and I have to.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean Whereas if you're just spoiled a little brat, you're gonna get handy something. You're not gonna give a shit about it as much as you had to work for that.
Speaker 1:You know no no, sir, and it's all ties in the work ethic and being able to be disciplined. Just like you be disciplined to the gym, you gotta be disciplined to sit down and work on your craft to facts right, so it's a very it goes hand-in-hand yeah it's all good.
Speaker 1:All this has does has to go tie in with the topic of his music, because it's true, like you, to be anything decent in life, you're gonna have to put effort into it. At you know, work ethic and then consistency, yes sir right and work hard. So you're a lazy-ass person and you expect to have winning results.
Speaker 3:Good luck. I heard Dom Kennedy said. He said like good luck, people, people got. People got a million dollar, dreams but a minimum wage work ethic that's cuz, that's true, man.
Speaker 5:Remember you said that somewhere in some interview or I could get what I heard maybe it was on a record.
Speaker 3:I forget but I was like that shit stuck with me, cuz I'm like yo, that's facts, like people talk all day, everything, but they don't want to work.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm gonna go. What are?
Speaker 2:you doing to get that?
Speaker 4:We're almost the design to work, bro, like yeah, notice bro like when you stop moving right, especially like people who.
Speaker 5:Retire right when they stop moving.
Speaker 4:Oh, I don't want to work anymore, right. The atrophy, the muscles get smaller. You know, I'm saying yeah stop moving, they start dying faster.
Speaker 1:They do. That's what we little move around. I think it's because you lose purpose.
Speaker 3:You have to always have purpose. You have to be moving towards something. Work Is part of life.
Speaker 5:It is, it is now now.
Speaker 1:That's why it's a work, exactly that's why it's important to pick the type of work you actually want to be involved in too, because Our, our, our work is still work in some, in some fields, you know, considering what we're doing. Yeah, yeah, but a lot of the time it feels kind of just like I know I'm not supposed to be doing this, I'm not enjoying this, I don't like, I don't like this stepping stone. Exactly that's how you have to be grateful for still even having that.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1:It's all about our luck for sure.
Speaker 4:Yeah, perspective, you know, and, and we still learn things from that too.
Speaker 1:That's right, you know.
Speaker 4:so yeah, it's not necessarily bad things, but it's like you know, we learn how to, how to appreciate life more there, for sure for, you know no doubt, a lot of shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, we love Steve. Everybody wants more leisure, but they don't want to work hard to get there.
Speaker 3:They can dream, yeah.
Speaker 4:I don't know, but it is it? Bro opportunity here, though, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, it's all there is.
Speaker 3:There's definitely make it happen where you live a life of leisure you just got to put in the work for I've heard people that come from like Worst background, that weren't born here, that come from with nothing and then they grind, they put their, kids to private school through all this crazy rolls because they did, because they wanted, they wanted, they're asking
Speaker 2:me what it is about them.
Speaker 3:They don't give a shit about what people think, so because they tune that out, they just have a mission and they stay on that and they and they apply and they apply themselves. Look and I saw this. I saw this, bro. I think it was Buster Rhymes that said it. Legend to he was like it's only delusion until it happens. Because, once it's real, those same people are like, oh shit, it works. Yeah my fuck is a genius.
Speaker 2:And you figured it out. That's what he said and I was like damn yeah.
Speaker 3:And you look crazy until you're vision, but it's because God gave you that vision to execute. It's not for that.
Speaker 4:I'm for everyone else.
Speaker 1:It's for you to go carry it out, make it happy, and there's no what happens, then you make them to believe it, bro, and it's like and there's no guy, there's no guidelines to it, man. No, no so there's no guidelines to the grind, bro.
Speaker 3:Look at the gym right there, bro yeah that was in mind that I got that from Buster Rhymes. I was dope, I seen that.
Speaker 1:Delusion until it's reality.
Speaker 4:You have to keep that bro because honestly, like I mean, I mean, you know Russ right? Yeah yeah, he in his book he kind of speaks of that too.
Speaker 3:I got his book too. By the way that you talk about that, I forget the name of it, the yellow one, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it says get out of your own way. Get out your own way, check it out. It's a good book, short read, but it's good.
Speaker 1:I have it if you don't, yeah please, I don't want to read it.
Speaker 3:That sounds good. I have to finish it.
Speaker 1:I started it, but you know another, but time on my damn shift.
Speaker 4:Yeah, cuz like yeah goes in in a detail about you know, just like you know, like manifesting, because basically, what that? That's like what it is, you know, but it's like, of course, the outside, from the outside looking in, you're gonna look crazy. It's like yeah, of course, and so you have to believe in yourself, and you have to just see it through and to see to add on to what you're saying, bro this world that we live in.
Speaker 3:Someone dreamed about this design, of this place, that we're in this building. Yeah, someone dreamt that and designed it and made it happen. It might have been great Someone. This whole world was developed by dreamers, if you think about it.
Speaker 5:People that are bold enough.
Speaker 3:Yes, sticks and stones. It's like shout out my homie, jelani. We like to say, with these two hands in a shovel, I can do it, I could build it's like a little saying that we say back and forth to each other like motivate each other.
Speaker 5:Just two hands, and bro Jelani, he's tellin me, with these two hands I could build, I could build anything.
Speaker 3:It's like one brick at a time, bro, I can, I can do anything. Because it's true. Now, this is true when they say uh, whether you can or can't, you're right.
Speaker 5:That's so, whether whether you can do it or you can't do it or you can't do it.
Speaker 1:It's on you. What are you?
Speaker 4:choosing honestly. Man can't lives on won't street.
Speaker 1:Yeah, can't lives on won't street and I got the Can't live on won't street right the wrong time.
Speaker 3:I've been somehow wet for some reason, but yeah, it's, true though you know. You can, you can't. That's you're right. That's your own thought process. Your mind is powerful. Believe that, like people don't want to, your mind is powerful, bro. What you choose to focus on, that's what's gonna, like you said, manifest. You know your thoughts become your actions. Actually become, or your thoughts become words, words become your actions. You know you keep moving down that. So think good thoughts, think highly of yourself. The world already kicks our ass enough. Why are you gonna be your own enemy?
Speaker 4:No, I agree, I think. I think that's sometimes, you know, we, we forget that we're the ones driving this vehicle, you know? I mean, it's really up to us.
Speaker 1:It's like yeah, I like that.
Speaker 4:Sometimes people are waiting on a God-given, you know opportunity. You have to make the opportunity you woke up today.
Speaker 3:That's your God-given opportunity. Anybody out there? You're looking for a sign you woke up, there's your opportunity.
Speaker 4:Do it. You're in the driver's seat. Yeah, yeah, fucking driver's seat. It's like that's just real. But I think you know we get so caught up in habits and just the way you know I'm saying comfort.
Speaker 5:Yeah, we just forget.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no, no we're on like automatic pilot or some shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, just doing shit. That's why, like comfort is kind of bad. It's always good to put yourself in an uncomfortable situation, that's what you get, to see what you're made of, and you can see what you really Shout out, to shout out to Andy Minio.
Speaker 1:He said that when his album uncomfortable. The whole album is basically about that. Yeah he's singing in the in the track. In the first track song he's like I got too comfortable. You get to get out of that comfort zone order to grow.
Speaker 3:It's so true, man Like that's that way in that you're looking is on that, the work you don't want to do?
Speaker 5:I know, that's cliche too, huh but it's true, the work aside, so I'm not aside on everything you're avoiding.
Speaker 1:Do that, do the shit, the shit that you want to do the least Covers, and exactly no, there's no cutting quarters bro.
Speaker 3:It'll be told you know, you know where I say it'll be shown, like a lot of artists I'm not gonna say who, but there's artists I like to cut corners in the sense of I'm gonna look bigger than I actually really am. Yeah, because I don't want to look. No, you just don't want to earn it. You need to earn, I agree. And they chew that. They buy followers, do all this fuck shit that they do and to me.
Speaker 3:It's amazing that you know what shout out a to you that whoever that is the artist that do that, everyone knows that you're bullshitting. I just want to let you know. Everybody knows you're faking it. Everybody knows you're bullshitting and I'm gonna tell you why. When you do a show, if this shit Don't match up to what the fuck you're trying to put on the internet because it's easy to fool on the internet People will tell it's gonna show. So don't cut corners. Do the work, do the work.
Speaker 1:I agree no what else go where I was going like no, where I was going with that is that it kind of goes back in the Lay was only pops and pops would tell us, yeah, and when you, when I was lazy, I would cut corners and he would say lazy man works twice yeah.
Speaker 3:I gotta get my ass back. Yeah, do it right this time.
Speaker 1:Shout out my pops he literally have a book of quarter balls. Well, he was a guy. Every time, anybody knows him anybody knows.
Speaker 3:My pops knows like he always got a gem for you all the time always did man, no matter what, and he would always.
Speaker 1:And he taught me you know perseverance and also how to do shit right the first time. So you want to revisit it. You know what I mean. Ladies, man, we're twice on you always tell me cuz it's true, man.
Speaker 4:Not only that, tomorrow is the only day that appeals to a lazy man as well.
Speaker 3:Oh, I like that.
Speaker 4:It's crazy that we're having this like. Where just guess.
Speaker 3:I have no idea, my never.
Speaker 4:You're dead, nice here yeah, I should post it like he that's hard. Any posted it on my door man?
Speaker 1:Yeah, just like I saw it every day, bro, that's because that's true and that, and you know what, if you're like, oh, but I'm gonna day off tomorrow, so I don't want to so to low key is kind of like a piece of the lazy man.
Speaker 3:That's what, yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's tomorrow that goes tomorrow's only day. That appeals to a lazy man.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Cuz, it's true, you, I'll do it tomorrow. You put it up.
Speaker 4:Yeah, never comes, and there's always a tomorrow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, whether you're there or not, was it tomorrow, was it?
Speaker 1:I think you're in Rocky Rocky. Remember that Rocky 3 Apollo rest in peace. To get back to the plate, apollo, there is no tomorrow, he tells me.
Speaker 3:And I don't feel like I fully master, that it takes time to master. Yeah, bro, when you really, if it's like let's you have, to have.
Speaker 1:You have to take the risk. I think it was as a person. Oh we're gonna this episode. That's what's about, guys not only the beat tape, but also how to just take your life into can, into, into into your hands and help, help actually boost yourself right in advance in life.
Speaker 3:But if you really keep that urgency of like, oh shit, this is my last day, yeah, how would you really live? No, I was really. If that was really, I was gonna say that I was like, I was like, I think it could be.
Speaker 1:It could be where I was going with this. Is that everybody great? If you guys notice, like everybody, that's great. This is what they do, they, they, they think differently than everybody else. You have to come off almost crazy to everybody else around you. They don't understand it because they don't have the same type of work, ethic and grind. And you do and they don't have. They don't see your vision. So to them it's gonna be, you're gonna look crazy. What the fuck is he? Yeah, why'd you leave that job?
Speaker 1:No, no, built I mean like why'd you do? Well, they don't know what you're doing, bro, they don't understand it. Not supposed to?
Speaker 3:yeah, they're not supposed to know, built the art.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, yeah, when him, when him, when the Giants and all those other teams were getting wiped out by the water in the Leviathan. Yeah, you want to get on that boat now, huh.
Speaker 3:You know that's the truth, man. You got to look at that as an honor, like oh God chose me to carry this mission out, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I'm gonna carry that with honor Honestly, man, cuz we all got a road to play.
Speaker 3:In the overall picture, you got your role to play. I got my role in it all but together is man.
Speaker 4:Majority people don't think like that, bro they don't yes you know, saying like it's dope that you do, yeah, but people, a lot of people are just like so, like what can I get? Like right now, you know me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean thinking in that. So so I think, that has to do with being too.
Speaker 4:Oh, you're right and I could be wrong. I think yeah.
Speaker 3:No, no. But I think the reason why they had that mentality and I'm just me outside looking in my opinion I think it's because they're not tapped into like, they're just materialistic. They might just look at the like physical.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they want immediate satisfaction. Yeah, they're not looking at the long-term goals here. They're not looking at. Oh, how am I gonna feel about this in three years? No, I want the self-gratification right now.
Speaker 5:Yeah but I want to be right now.
Speaker 1:I don't have it right now, Then I don't want it all. Exactly I don't want it all. That's because they're not patient. They don't want. They want to live those lavish and those crazy lives right now. They want to have the money right now. They don't understand that later matters more than right now. Right now it doesn't matter. Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 3:I think I think urgency is only Apply to like get it going. You need to have urgency.
Speaker 2:Hell, hell.
Speaker 3:Fuck it if you fuck up, just start start you're gonna fuck up. That's just a fact.
Speaker 1:I can't avoid that like Dwayne Johnson, the rock said, man he's like, is it gonna be one day or day one?
Speaker 5:Yeah you go, man. I was like so treat like day one, day one, or one day, or me, yeah, are you gonna start?
Speaker 1:You got to start. That's basically who's getting it. Are you gonna keep saying I'll get my life together or I'll clean up my act or I'll get in better shape one day, or is Take today's day one oh, I want to go. I'm gonna go talk to me.
Speaker 2:You go, you go, I want to talk to that girl one day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, what if that you take too long, that girl. Now another guy, another guy that said no, I'm not waiting one day, I'm doing it now, yeah, you miss, your, you miss you know If you ask me, to life where there's love. Yeah, business, do it now. Yeah, jump into it, fuck it, mess up.
Speaker 1:It's okay, yeah, exactly guys, so you won't know until you try bro. No, you won't fear.
Speaker 3:fear, that's fear oh no fear false evidence appearing real, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:That's what false evidence I don't know. That's a good one too. That's a real one, false evidence appearing real, crippling for no reason, bro. It's bullshit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, fear is you creating that in your mind? There's a wall that's not there. I agree, man.
Speaker 1:So I mean, if you guys want to continue this, so let's just stay on this topic because I like it. This is this for those out there still listening and watching, if you haven't already caught on to it by now. This episode is not just about JJ you know JJ's music it beats, but it's also about self perseverance, self, self, self, self, self improvement self awareness For sure big time, because if you're living is stuck in a cycle and you're not advancing at all in your life.
Speaker 2:What are you not self?
Speaker 1:aware. You're not self aware exactly. You're just going through it day in, day out, with no purpose, no goal. Well, they say they say they need worker bees like that. They love people that power, my dream people. Some people love that shit.
Speaker 3:They were you need, you need both you know just come here and do what you're told.
Speaker 1:That's my love Now. But people like you know, individuals that individuals, people like individuals that we know that are just worker bees. They know nothing better and they have no sense of self worth. So they since they don't even care about themselves, they're gonna come and do their jobs the best they can because they have nothing better going on in their life. But that's a decision that they made. Yeah, you gave up. You didn't want to try to be better.
Speaker 2:You know saying, and that's not just that individual, that's everybody that can relate to what I'm saying you chose to be in that position.
Speaker 1:You chose to end up. Those are choices you make, whether you conscious of them or not. Right you, your actions, are you're part of your decision-making. Man fear you, that's the reality of it.
Speaker 4:You know, and the thing, oh that yeah one thing about sorry to talk. No, you're good, but good but the thing about it, too, is like I was thinking about this the other day and I was thinking about it and it was just like it doesn't matter what age you are either, bro, no, no age four, five, six, that's you're making choices. You know, and as fucked up as it is, you're gonna have consequences, all of them, from day one. Stay one your choice.
Speaker 4:Even if you're not, you know, if you're not fully aware to even make those choices you're doing. Yes, there's consequences, man. Like kids, they might drink freaking windex or some shit you know say oh fuck because someone's not there to watch them, yeah, you know. But so well, choices are powerful, you know, doesn't? Yeah, life doesn't care about how old you are, doesn't care about any of that. It doesn't it is what it is, you know so that's like I understand how urgent it is. Yeah that's when you know.
Speaker 3:That's when you can be somewhere. You're awake.
Speaker 4:That's real because, honestly like, decisions are the portal to your next reality.
Speaker 5:That's fact your decision is good portal to this.
Speaker 4:You're saying whatever you manifest, you walked through a certain time you, you have only you to blame exactly that's a go to add on to what you're saying.
Speaker 3:The quality of your living depends on your actions. The better, the better life you live is depends on what you decide today. Yeah so for it. The quality of your life is gonna be based on your choices.
Speaker 4:Looking at my life man, I'm like that shit as fuck out. I'll never doubt that shit again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'll say anything personal out loud. You know why you think those things and feel those things.
Speaker 3:I feel you cuz that, me too. I could go back and be like Fuck that shit, fucked me up. But I all I could do now. I can't change the past. I could just learn yeah, no, for sure now and then same person does the same shit and expect different results.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there's definition of insanity. We kind of said earlier you gotta change doing the same thing every day and you expect it to be an outcome. That's like me. Okay, I want to lose weight, but I keep eating the bullshit that I'm eating and not working out Okay. Good luck. Yeah, you're not gonna, you're gonna get. If anything, you're gonna give the opposite direction right.
Speaker 1:You're gonna gain more weight. You're gonna be look more out of. You know it's not people, I don't know, man, what people think and then and then actually I do know they give it a try. They realize how hard it is. Oh, I can't like fuck that. I can't fuck that.
Speaker 3:All right. Well then, you're never. Don't be mad. A sign of struggle yes, over exactly no, dog Don't it first. I struggle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then you know no, no, no discipline, no self-discipline whatsoever. And they don't understand that if you just go through the pain, there is something on the other side of that.
Speaker 4:We'll get it. Yes, I'm gonna wait. Yes, you can't force a flower to grow, you know. I'm gonna think like kung fu panache Okay.
Speaker 3:That's cool, I'm gonna force the peach to grow. You know me.
Speaker 1:But some people want to do that man.
Speaker 3:No matter what corners it all ties together.
Speaker 1:Everything is in all ties back to. We've been saying this whole time is which is you cannot? There's no, I guess there's no shortcuts. I did it was saying there's no shortcuts to the finish, lander isn't. And not just that. You cannot bullshit the system and still win. You can't. House always wins, exactly, even the people that do Successfully cheat in life and get money out of it. No, it'll come below it doesn't last exactly, and it will come back to bite them in the ass in some form you can't bill.
Speaker 3:You can't bill how. You know what I mean. Can't build a solid foundation on San? No, you really can't that's why that's in the.
Speaker 1:Bible to write.
Speaker 3:It didn't Bible talk about where yeah yeah the Bible got a solid foundation on San. He's gonna come, can't gotta be on rock.
Speaker 1:He basically paraphrased a Story in the Bible. Yeah, we're a full. There's a book to yeah, we're a foolish man fucking bill. Yeah, it's in the house from Bible in different ways, in which there's another, there's another book.
Speaker 3:There's another book my bad, I mean. There's another book that I read. Shout out to my boy, caveman junior. He gave it to me a while back. It's called sandcastle Kings. Oh, that's so it's an author, I think it's a Rich wickerson, I think, if that's the author. But that's what the book is based off of that scripture.
Speaker 4:And so you can't build a solid foundation on anything in life.
Speaker 3:On Sam.
Speaker 4:That's a good title. It's like, it's like a double meaning, yeah, yeah like you're king but you're just fucking in the dumpster. All yeah, san castle, you don't want to be winning, but you're losing.
Speaker 1:You don't want to be a sandcastle, but we will do that shit all the time, man bro and they know, yeah, it's facts. So hey, bro, right, you do see it every day. And then they, they flaunt their shit. They live like they're living, to pretend live away. That are not they're really strong Pretext they got a, they got together.
Speaker 1:No, you don't, motherfucker. I'm not saying I like to point that shit out, but it's. It's a reality. We see all the time, man, and it's sometimes it's not your place to put it out. Let someone be living their own delusion. They got a.
Speaker 3:They got a Bentley, but they live in section 8 housing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that happens. I don't make no sense, bro. That's for the flex, it is for the flex, people, people.
Speaker 3:We live in the era of the flex, bro. This is the flex that we hear people could easily day, bro. I've heard stories of you know these IG models. What these, these chicks will do, though go to an airport, rent the plane for an hour, have a photographer take all these gang of photos like they're traveling that is, and then they post it later like they're going to different spots.
Speaker 5:But they're not only shit. That's why you never took off the ground.
Speaker 3:That motherfucker is on the ground. I've heard stories of that. So it's easy to fake shit was what I'm saying. It's easy to fake online. Oh, just the other day. Everyone's gonna see the results if you're fake look, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, what?
Speaker 1:maybe I shouldn't bring this up. I don't want sound like a hater man, but I was literally at the aquarium the other day with my girlfriend and my family right little girls and there was some influences there. I recognize them. I don't even know what their names are. I don't know who they are, but they're a mechanism that I recognize them. They're a couple from tiktok and they're falling. Some guy was following them around with a little little camera and literally they're recording their reactions and shit. They're pretending to have a little fight and it was fake. They just fake the whole argument and then after that was good, right, oh, I don't do the second take, we're good, he's eating his talkies. I'm like this is life for them, bro, and that they make money off this shit. I knew who they were. Even I knew who they were, but I don't know what their names.
Speaker 3:I just know that they pop up my feet a lot.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro, and they're making what he said, and it's just like in my head. I'm like that bag feeling either though you know what I mean Like I'm bringing this up to say that that can't be fulfilling either, like a life like that. But I mean, don't get me wrong, you're not doing a nine-to-five job. I guess it beats that right. But at the same time it's like after a while, man, it's gonna it's gonna fizzle out.
Speaker 5:Yeah, they're gonna run out of ideas of course people are gonna bro.
Speaker 4:At the end of the day.
Speaker 1:I think I'm my head on my people so I don't sound like a hater. But people subscribe to that.
Speaker 4:No, but it's only short term, though, bro. People still create quality always. People always crave, crave quality if it's good and it resonates.
Speaker 3:That's what they like cream of the crop always rise to the top.
Speaker 1:I hate to say it, but you know, I know those, those, those, those individual people don't even have identities. You know why I say that again. Sorry, I'm not trying to burn them or anything, but I'm gonna say the ace family people were on their sack. Oh, that's the perfect family. That's, that's what you want. That's the kind of family you want in your life. I found out about them because my sister I didn't know what the fuck these people were before that.
Speaker 1:But then look now, now they're facing a divorce, bros on some crack where he's living outside his house. Now, supposedly they're having a divorce and he's now living in a trailer outside of his own house. I'm like, bro, this shit just sounds like you're desperate for views now, like you're shit starting to fizzle out now and you're trying to stay relevant somehow. I'm gonna just put it out there like it is, bro, like that. To me it's pretty sad, and people were reviewing it, not just me. Right now I'm saying other influencers are talking about them like they look like clowns. Enjoy your time for what it was. You guys made an impact. No, no shot, no shade to them. But don't start making shit up in scenarios and do all crime. There's kinds of crazy shit at your kids expense to make clouds stay, you know, relevant in your, in your spectrum.
Speaker 1:Yeah if you evolve, do something else, invest in something. That's that's wrong, matt, with that I don't know. I'm not trying to say shade on them, but I'm just saying, man, like a couple examples from them, like you know, involving their kids in it. Someone broke into our house and there's a. They clearly broke the glass and what I mean. The kids come out crying and it's just extra like was it shit? It's real life or is it just all you know?
Speaker 4:I think is that I thought, man, is that they got a taste of how much that they can make off that shit. Yeah, and they're just, they're just fucking addicted. So now they're like a like everyone's in on this shit. You're gonna do it, do what you gotta do. So we, we can, we can get this bag.
Speaker 3:It's like a drug, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:I feel you know that is money.
Speaker 1:So yeah, and that's why I bring them up. It's fast money, that's not more necessarily long-term, but they're good for them. They found something that worked. They found an audience somehow doing that, you know. Good for you guys, but can you really be proud of that? At the end of the day, you know me can you an ignorance, yeah, I guess, so man yeah.
Speaker 3:I guess we're cut from a different clock. It's like you said not everyone thinks the way we think, not every, and that's okay.
Speaker 1:Everyone heck is up is right to their own opinion on mentality because I guess are doing wild shit here on this show Right to get more viewership. I could pass out right now.
Speaker 4:But what kind of mark fall through the table and I'm not going to leave on your show exactly. Oh, you guys are clowns. That's where you have to ask yourself bullshit.
Speaker 1:You know me like. When do you? You know what, do you find a happy medium.
Speaker 3:That's where you ask yourself what type of legacy are you trying to leave? Yeah, like what are you? Am I doing it for?
Speaker 1:cloud I'm doing for money. Like what am I? Am I gonna stay true to myself? Exactly? I grew JJ like you. I feel like that matters to our generation more. These new guys I don't fucking know I, they're definitely from another generation. These tick-tockers that I saw, they're from another generation Because it's like you don't value the same things that we value, and I'm gonna sound like an old man, or like an old head, that's what they call the old.
Speaker 1:Well, fuck it. I feel like for us, we value things that are gonna last. Oh yeah, you know, I mean, I feel like we value. I feel like we value things are gonna last yeah you know me, sorry, I'm gonna mix it with JJ's, funny me kind of harsh but, um, I Feel like we value, you know, our generation. We value things that are gonna last quality.
Speaker 1:Quality, exactly things that are gonna be tangible. They want the superficial shit. It's not gonna last at just at least accommodate them right now. They might not even give a fuck retirement. I probably won't have money for that. Who cares? Maybe I'll have enough, maybe I will.
Speaker 3:You know, I'm not thinking that far ahead but because of that, you know, because of the lack of caring about quality. This is why you get what you get in society you get bullshit, music. You get you get the dumbing down and and not to go into conspiracies, but you get the dumbing down of society through. You know, and people want to say and they love it.
Speaker 1:That's why they press that shit up. They push it up Like get more distracted. Watch this couple. Yeah, watch this couple Like watch this good shit. It's just like this bro.
Speaker 3:Art is supposed to inspire, it's supposed to uplift the community. It's supposed to build up the world, not dumb it down. So when you have good art, quality art it brings, it has a. It's not fully, but it has some a big impact on. It has an impact on culture and society. So when you have a higher elevated art forms and everything's at a higher level and not just subpar bullshit, just microwave shit but home cooked meal pun intended when you have something really of quality, bro, that's when the morale of society and everything else boost up.
Speaker 3:Because, it starts with everything, bro, like the food, the culture, the art, the morals, when you start putting bullshit in music and I don't care what anybody says, music is very powerful and spiritual.
Speaker 5:Yes, it is so when you put a bunch of.
Speaker 3:It depends on what message you put. A negative message.
Speaker 4:It affects the algorithm. It affects the algorithm.
Speaker 3:And it affects the public, it affects society. That's why you have young people doing wild, crazy, dumb shit, because the music is influencing them to do fucking dumb, wild shit.
Speaker 4:The.
Speaker 3:Thing is cool. The thing is cool because it's it's packaged in.
Speaker 1:Doing wild and shit is what's packaged in.
Speaker 2:And labels and shit.
Speaker 3:They know what the fuck they're doing.
Speaker 1:Of course they do.
Speaker 3:Because you know, this is what it goes back to when in the beginning, when we were talking bro, that's why they have. They know who they want to promote. There's good ass artists out there, but they choose to shine the light on some fuckery or whatever.
Speaker 4:Because they want a certain thing, it's money.
Speaker 3:Oh, this sells. It's too easy. It's my shake your ass. Talk about this.
Speaker 2:Guys talk about money this that bitches.
Speaker 4:And that's it, bro. But to add to that right, let's say let's touch on, like you know, conspiracies, right.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 4:After that. It's also because, since that influences the public right and then have more people doing making dumb decisions that scar them for life. You know what I'm saying? Like, let's say, you might have people joining gangs or you know, sleeping around like crazy. You know what I'm saying. Getting caught up or whatever. You know what I'm saying. That's all going to fuel the system.
Speaker 3:It all fuels the system.
Speaker 4:It all comes back. But I think also that you know you need. There's no dark, there's no light without dark.
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 4:So it's going to be there and that's where it gives room for people about quality to really shine to the ranks, so it's like you know what I'm saying. Because, at the end of the day, people are choosing to listen to the music too. It's a two-way street, so it's. So I'm saying the system can pump out whatever it wants, but if people choose to resonate with, that's what the system is going to pump out If you don't feed the system.
Speaker 3:Then they got to change the system got to change.
Speaker 5:if you're right, that is a good, great point.
Speaker 3:That's true, it is. It's on the consumer's job too. Yeah, Not just the. They're not mindless zombies, you know what I mean? No, I agree.
Speaker 4:And that doesn't give them the respect of being you know what I'm saying Autonomous. You know what?
Speaker 5:I mean.
Speaker 4:Like. They make their own choices. It may not be the best choices, but that's their choice. So I think you know it's all. It's a. It's fair, you know what I'm saying, like you know, like you know, like we don't have to eat to call it Mickey D's, we don't have to.
Speaker 3:It's not a grocery store. That's all choice. Yeah, it's all choice. You know what I'm saying? That's a very great point. No, that's good, that's super good, that's true. So, hey, it's up to y'all out there. You want shit to change.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it's up to you guys to not feed into the bullshit. Yup, yeah, I know that. Yeah be the change, exactly as cliche as it sounds.
Speaker 1:It's not a cliche at all. That's the truth, though. That's the truth. Sometimes the cliches are the truth man.
Speaker 4:A lot of them are sometimes it's been said so many times that now it's been dubbed in.
Speaker 1:It doesn't mean anything, right, it becomes a cliche, unfortunately.
Speaker 3:Well, because people say it because it sounds good, but they don't want to actually do it exactly.
Speaker 1:That sounds great that part.
Speaker 3:The work, the footwork is not there. Yup.
Speaker 1:They don't want to put in the legwork, they're lazy. We live in a society again. Like I said before, they want instant results.
Speaker 3:Always Instant gratification.
Speaker 1:Everything instant gratification. That's why Instagram is as big as it is. People only post their wins.
Speaker 2:Yup.
Speaker 1:Maybe if he was even a pollter, a lot post their losses, bro. Post your losses Honestly, I'm not sure, or I noticed it was the only time they'll post a loss. Sarg, what did you say?
Speaker 4:No, I mean. I mean like post your losses, because that's what, bro people?
Speaker 1:everyone experiences loss. It shows growth. People can relate to it. I like that.
Speaker 3:And you doing that, I feel like you'll gain more of a following, or whatever you're trying to, because you're being real, but I'm not trying to. I'm not selling you bullshit.
Speaker 5:No, I agree, I'm human, like you bro.
Speaker 1:Like that connection is unmatched. No facts, but sometimes I've noticed those Well. Sometimes people will post their losses, though, because they want sympathy.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so they try to manipulate the system.
Speaker 5:Yes, yes, they try to manipulate the system to get their oh, but I want this from people.
Speaker 2:I'm craving their. Yeah, bro, who does?
Speaker 4:it. But people do that shit Like at first. It's like that. Aren't people fucking interesting bro?
Speaker 1:They are. Fuck man no that's true.
Speaker 3:And they'll do it like I saw one recently.
Speaker 1:Someone posted their car accident and I'm like, oh my baby. I was like well fuck, at least you're okay. You know what I mean. The car's replacement, but the car's replaceable. But you're like more concerned, but you're looking for the sympathy. You want, the oh shit, are you okay?
Speaker 3:Are you looking for that? I mean, people might get mad.
Speaker 1:You know, but it's like people are interesting man.
Speaker 3:People might get mad, but like also another one like that that relates to that. People might get mad at this one, but like in the hospital when they take a picture of their hand and they're in the they have that. Oh, the IV, fuck dude Like what is that the default, fucking oh.
Speaker 5:They do that shit, though. Sorry, man, I'm not sorry. No, don't be sorry, fuck that shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm not sorry, you played yourself.
Speaker 1:Bro, to me I'm like bro, I guess what it is man.
Speaker 2:Yo no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:Congratulations, you played yourself A lot of them do that shit, though. You know what, though? There's also another way to look at that coin. The other side is what if they don't have anybody?
Speaker 4:That's true. That's true. That's true. What if that's a cry of friends? No, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So yeah, I'm making fun, but at the same time, there's another way to there's always another perspective.
Speaker 1:That's true, there's always perspective too.
Speaker 3:There is, but people are interestingly said but when it is the case when it is the case that we're saying though that's just hilarious, it's bullshit.
Speaker 4:It is bullshit, it's fuck shit and we know it's bullshit. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You know what's fuck shit he sends me on the daily that he finds on Instagram. Oh yeah, man, I'm the king of sending bullshit.
Speaker 5:He sends the weirdest shit. My homies know.
Speaker 3:I send them fuckery all day.
Speaker 1:Oh fuck, it's time bro.
Speaker 3:I'm just bored, I'm like, oh, this is funny boom.
Speaker 1:I know it's bullshit. Where do you find this shit? It's all over the internet, bro. It's not hard to write. It's mindless entertainment, but it's funny Slice show too man Slice show knows, if he was here what he's talking about. He stays sending me stupid, random shit all the time, bro, every day.
Speaker 1:I'm the only person and I'll give you this, bro, because it's props to you. Man, I don't think, because I know you probably scroll on the Grammy, probably laugh at it. You're in there, but you don't send shit to nobody bro, I know man bro, I'm not, I'm just to himself. Like he's on the grind, I'm not doing anything else.
Speaker 4:Bro, social media man, like that's one thing I used to always be on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You know, exactly, man I don't like, and he only made one, just so you guys know, for the show, because I asked him to. So I never say no, go ahead, go ahead, I cut you off. I forgot, bro. Fuck, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4:That's all good.
Speaker 1:No, if you just say social media. You're talking about social media.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, I just had too much time on that shit. I wasn't doing anything. I'm like why am I so absorbed in this thing? I'm just scrolling down. I'm like, bro, like.
Speaker 3:I'm not doing shit Like bro, like get to working shit. Yeah, it's hard to pull it away from me too. I'm victim of that. That's why you do it. Man, I feel bad for that.
Speaker 2:I was just wasting time looking at this shit.
Speaker 1:You know I don't have any money doing that.
Speaker 4:I'm just looking at it scrolling, I'm like huh, you know, it's true.
Speaker 1:You aren't getting money, you just said it, you're missing, the way we said earlier, the moment being in the moment.
Speaker 3:I think we talked off camera. We did talk off the record for sure, like being present and being fully aware of the current moment and not being consumed in your phone. I know I've done it.
Speaker 1:It's all self-improvement, yeah it's all self-improvement, like you're saying like you don't want to be, and we all tend to do it.
Speaker 1:Sometimes You're at a show, somewhere where you're in an experience. You want to take a picture and post the videos or record it. Why Right, oh, you can watch it later. You're not going to watch that shit later. You might Maybe glance at it later, but you're not going to watch that shit later. You're really not. Let's be honest, no one's going to watch that shit later. You're going to want other people that are not there with you to see that experience that you're having without them there. Ah, this is weird, man. If you think about it, it really is weird.
Speaker 3:But you know, it is kind of cringy, you put it that way. It's cringy. It's like as an artist, like you kind of have to play that game. But there's like a fine line of playing that game of letting people know what you're doing and being overly consumed where I don't need to know when you're taking the shit, I don't need to know when you're fucking, I don't know, bro, like you're literally not posting it right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or like I saw one that you know do that shit Like ah. I said no more milk. I'm 1% only.
Speaker 3:No, I see what we're what the fuck.
Speaker 1:Who gives a shit bro?
Speaker 3:I see where there's a guy he does like, I guess, lifestyle videos and this other guy's critiquing it. It's fucking hilarious, like a reaction video. He's like bro, he's like what the fuck is this? And he's like, getting up in the morning, he said he said he set up his tripod, he's putting it, he's showing his routine. Yeah, it cuts to another scene. He's taking a shower. He's like, bro, you set up your fucking camera to record you showering, to do this. And he's just, he's like commentating, play by play. And I'm fucking dying because it's funny.
Speaker 3:Oh, this is his goof and he's like he gets dressed and he's like he pulls up to target. He's like target run I guess it's part of the fucking content and the camera is showing him parking into the parking street. He's like, bro, you pulled up, set up your camera, got back in your car fucking back to work?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he did.
Speaker 3:All this bullshit just to like hey Maloki.
Speaker 1:I guess I was laughing bro, but it's so funny bro.
Speaker 5:And that's also, though that is also.
Speaker 1:He wants to hey.
Speaker 3:Shout out to that guy.
Speaker 1:He really does you know? You know, maybe we got a camera waiting for you. Hey bro, I'm pulling up now, be ready. He's not going to do that shit. You know he's not going to do that.
Speaker 3:Shout out to that guy that's doing that, because he'd probably get paid for it, but it is Courtney. When you break it down like that, it is funny as fuck. We live in a content era, bro.
Speaker 1:We do live in a content area, though. There's people out there Because they can ask you why I do this. You know what I'm saying? It's the same shit.
Speaker 3:There's people out there that just sit around and that's all they do all day is watch other shit, other people's lives and you can get sucked into that and lost and just be glued to that shit now.
Speaker 1:No, seriously, you haven't done shit and that's why we're actually going to do it Time goes by.
Speaker 3:Time always goes by.
Speaker 1:And we don't have this working title. Ok, but that's why we're going to do the whole street hustle with Slideshow and Furious out in LA in the streets of LA, Hollywood and the Boulevard, Because we're going to do a little personal blog slash interviews with people, because it's entertaining. People like to watch that, People like fuck shit, I like shit.
Speaker 3:like that. We're going to go to the clubs.
Speaker 1:You guys are going to go get some panties bro, you will love that shit.
Speaker 1:They watch it, ask outlandish questions that they would never ask, like it decides matter. Did you get your back blown out last night? How did it feel? You know what I mean? Just shit like that. That's just entertaining. People want to watch that and that's why we're going to do that show. But we're not just going to do it for interviews, season's. We're also going to review food trucks, where we talked about it. We're going to make it like a little blog, but on the street, so it's a working title. Now we don't, bro. We think it's going to be a street hustle. I came with that randomly on the spot. Street hustle with Slideshow and Furious, or Furious and Slideshow. I might just call Street hustle the name of the show. Why do you call it Street hustle, which is dope Like? I think it's a cool name. It'll be everything.
Speaker 3:It's going to be interviews, and it's going to be it's coming soon, guys, so that'll be fun for you guys to do too.
Speaker 1:That sounds like fun On the street. Yeah, on Friday nights, yeah, that's the plan, me and different personalities.
Speaker 3:That seems a lot. That'll be cool. If you guys do that, when you guys do that. I'm looking forward to that. That's dope. I like that. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1:Because I feel like that would help this grow. I've been told, I've already told you guys. I told him in Slideshow that I feel like that show would help this one get more popular too. We're going to want to know what. Oh, they have a podcast. We see them doing this Because they're going to be a shout out to Israel. Padilla man. Shout out to that guy over there at 6th Street in Texas. He's doing his thing out there, bro. So he kind of inspired me to do it in LA. I don't think anybody's doing it in LA.
Speaker 5:Maybe there is some people doing it in LA.
Speaker 4:For sure there are right. Yeah, there has to be. You think so?
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, all right For the ones that are doing in LA. No shade on you, guys, but we're going to do our own little version of that you know that job.
Speaker 3:They're going to be bigger than you Watch out.
Speaker 1:He just saw JJ wants to smoke. Big time no.
Speaker 3:I'll love man. There's enough room for everybody. Friendly competition? No for sure, that's all it is.
Speaker 1:It's just friendly competition, for sure, no doubt, no doubt. But um, yeah, man, you know this has been a very good episode. I like it so far. You know what I mean. We've been talking about self-improvement. You know what I mean. Your beats, your music, real quick. Transitioning back to your music, though, before we, before you, you know we wrap things here in a little bit I wanted to ask you, before we do that, what do we have to expect next? Obviously, Home Cook Meals Vol 2. Is that what you're working on next, or do you have a project?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I got Home Cook Meals Vol 2. Home Cook Meals Vol 2, that's coming up in the series. And then I got I'm going to start working on an album where, yeah, you're working on something currently right now with somebody else, or just you again, but just this one. Just me and no, I got, I got, I got in the works. I'm not going to say who but I'm fine. You know, I got some things in the works too with other artists, other producers Cool.
Speaker 3:Uh yeah, man. So just stay on the lookout. I also paint, if y'all like painting.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, just I don't know. Shout them out, let them really find it.
Speaker 2:I'm not right here. I messed up, I didn't come I should have.
Speaker 5:I should have came and brought some pieces to show you guys but I didn't bring any pieces.
Speaker 1:But yeah, for a set man. He owes me one. Yeah, I do.
Speaker 3:But if you want to check out my art, you know I got. I'm in the works of making a page for that too. But if you want to buy some pieces, it's actually for sale right now, if you're local. Over here in Lancaster, california, at Voodoo Vinyl. It's on the Boulevard. Yes, sir, they're selling my art pieces. They're going to be selling my merch there too. So those are a partner I got with. Also, shout out to Milk Room in Woodland Hills, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:They're the first guys Shout out to Greg. They gave me my opportunity. I did my first art pop up.
Speaker 1:Was it like a Shout out to their podcast too, two years ago. Yeah, they have a podcast, shout out to them, they have a podcast.
Speaker 3:Shout out to Milk Room Podcast too. Shout out to Milk Room. They're dope. They always showcase up-and-coming artists. They're good people, man. They always they got mad love. My pieces are in there for sale. You can buy vintage clothes. It's a streetwear shop. Sneakers Dope. They're building their own community.
Speaker 1:They're really, really dope.
Speaker 3:I like that they have a they're a shout out to them, man, so check them out. You know Milk Room and Voodoo Vinyl. Those are the two partners I have right now and just continue to follow me, if you guys want, with my journey. I'm a, I'm a post and I'm going to keep creating, and I always. My slogan is always create. That's what I live by, always create. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first episode you were in. We named it that. Yeah, we called it Always Create that's my slogan that I live by.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you can check my paint, you know, be on the lookout for my music and you know if you're a creative. What I could say is don't box yourself in if, oh, you're just a producer or you're just a. No, bro, I'm an artist. That's why I tell people like don't box me in.
Speaker 3:And if I want to rap, bro, you never know you might catch a single this year. I'm you never know I might come out of nowhere, Me rapping on my own beat. You can't put me in a box. I believe I could do it, bro. I really believe I can do it.
Speaker 2:No one could tell me otherwise Big facts I can't say to anybody that's a creative.
Speaker 3:Be fearless. Your art is your art and it's subjective. So just put it out. If you feel, I feel like you get to a point where you develop a confidence, yeah, where you finally release it to the world. Once you release it to the world, you've given it to the world to critique whatever. It's no longer yours. You've given it to everyone. It went from you, but don't apologize for your work. Your vision is your vision and be confident that it's only you, bro. Like, make what you feel is dope. And I feel like nine out of 10 times when you trust your gut and you're not worried about oh shit, I'm making something I was about to say that I got to appeal to this audience.
Speaker 1:You don't let that be part of your process.
Speaker 3:When you do that, I think you fuck up your art. It is not going to come out good. It's no longer yours, but when you true to you and you're like I, like this shit. Whether it gets a million plays, whether a lot of people buy this painting, whatever it is, I enjoy thoroughly making this and it came from my passion, my heart. I feel like nine out of 10 times it connects, it does, and that's why I wanted to ask you that too.
Speaker 4:You just got to be bold enough to like you know I'm going to do it, even if you're blazing a new trail you got to face the, you got to face the room, basically.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You know, let them taste makers, bro. That's what taste makers are the people that food critics. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Oh, it's too salty. Oh, it's wrong. Yeah, it's wrong, I like that.
Speaker 2:He acts it though.
Speaker 5:Shit bro.
Speaker 1:He acts. It was on point, but shit, yeah, bro, it was too salty.
Speaker 5:That's why I feel like taste makers.
Speaker 3:Bro, you got to be the trends. You're the taste maker. You tell people was dope, they don't know what's dope. You got to be that one, to be like this was dope. I like that.
Speaker 1:Because exactly you show them what's dope, what he just said. It goes hand in hand with if you don't believe in yourself, how do you expect someone else to?
Speaker 3:Yep, you got to sell them.
Speaker 1:You got to sell them, you, in a sense.
Speaker 3:You got to make them believe. You don't you got to make them believe in you the way you believe in you. You don't got to sell them.
Speaker 5:This is what I feel like you don't want to sell. It it's dope, it's dope.
Speaker 3:It's going to speak for itself. That's true.
Speaker 5:Real recognized.
Speaker 1:Real recognized, real, recognized, real. Yeah, big facts, bro, and that's the. You know, that's it.
Speaker 3:Just stay true to who you are, Be positive that's true and grind bro. That's it. Keep your head down and go and be timeless Be timeless.
Speaker 1:I like how you did that Be timeless.
Speaker 4:Because timeless never fades.
Speaker 3:Classics never fade, this podcast never fade. Yeah, the art we make never fade because it's classic, it's quality, it's timeless, like my boy.
Speaker 5:Fierce yeah.
Speaker 3:Salute to him. Man, he's a great guy. Positive. Hey bro, we got to cook up. You said you make beats. Yeah, we got to do this man.
Speaker 4:thank you for letting this man experience that great body of work man.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I appreciate you for listening to the time. No, seriously.
Speaker 1:We appreciate you actually sharing it with us. Hey, hey, hey. And everybody, I'm looking at the camera, everybody out there.
Speaker 3:I appreciate you guys taking the time out Listen to my project and feel free to reach out. Man, let me know how it made you feel. I love hearing people's response. I love people's reactions to the art. So, man, Thank you everybody man.
Speaker 5:Thank you guys for the platform. No, of course I mean I always come on here.
Speaker 3:I love it. I support it. You know what I mean the best that I can.
Speaker 1:Just keep going, man. You guys are doing your thing. No for sure, bro. We appreciate you taking the time to come out here again. It's all worth it. We're all having a good time, we're all out of blasts, and this was Thank you for being here. It was a pleasure to have you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know.
Speaker 4:It's okay. Thanks for coming out, man. No, yeah, for sure. No, for sure, all right, but for sure.
Speaker 1:I hope it's not a perfect though for us. Anything we wanted to leave them with any last you know.
Speaker 4:You know, like we always do every episode, like I always say, man, stay true to yourself and don't let anyone stand in the way of your goals.
Speaker 5:Yeah, go after that shit Absolutely.
Speaker 4:You only got one life. Go for what you want and make it happen.
Speaker 3:Yes, sir.
Speaker 1:Big time, big time.
Speaker 3:All like that All glory to God, all glory to God. Yes, sir, always.
Speaker 4:Yeah, we put God first in this podcast. We're not ashamed of it. Nope, we're not ashamed of it, we're not ashamed of it.
Speaker 1:We're not ashamed of it, but we're not ashamed of it. We're not ashamed of it. And we're not ashamed of it, we're not ashamed of it and we're not ashamed of it. I'm going to deny you before the father bro. So I firmly believe in that. I know everybody at the table does too. So we take that very seriously here. On TimeList Talk man All right guys, so we'll catch up with you right.
Speaker 1:Stay timeless, y'all All right yeah, guys so with that being said, guys, you know where to find us. It's been Timeless. Talk. Stay true to yourself. You don't know your worth. Do what you're doing in life. Take the self-improvement. Try to apply it to your life. Keep it timeless. We'll see you, guys, next week.
Speaker 3:God bless you Keep it timeless. Yo Follow me. Jj got beats yeah.
Speaker 1:Scotsman.
Speaker 3:Got your man.
Speaker 1:Furious one, furious one and the Armored Cubans. You guys want to find us. We'll see you guys next week. Thanks again, guys. It's been Timeless Talk, salute.
Speaker 3:Salute Big time Timeless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Hey guys man.
Speaker 1:Oh shit in my head bro.
Speaker 5:I'm just fucking with Addy Hell yeah, man.
Speaker 1:Play for a little bit, just make sure you rise above all this madness out here.
Speaker 5:Mind elevation man. Fuck that petty shit. Yo needy when I All right guys.
